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Thread: CX-9 has won virtually every comparison test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horton View Post
    I didn't intend that "niche" in a "small/limited/not good" way - it's just reflection of scale, size, and focus.
    See: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2017/01...-rankings.html

    Interestingly, from 2016 to 2017, the CX-9 sales grew at a higher percentage than their competition, which is a good sign.

    I agree they need a better marketing company. I'm surprised, time and time again, how they pick agencies that just don't "get it" (although many of their printed stories are great, but buried deep in web pages that no one gets to read. Completely missing social media/modern.
    For selfish reasons I'd prefer Mazda to remain a smaller/niche company like Volvo and not be the giants like Toyota and Honda are. I've been the contrarian for quite some time and don't want to be driving the same vehicle on the road that you see every 5-10mins that are so common. Don't get me wrong I still want a safe and reliable vehicle and that's why I bought the CX9 as it ticked the boxes for me aside from having a nicer look and one of the best driving dynamics for a 3row CUV

    After spending 10days in almost 3K km in a Hyundai Santa Fe XL Ltd I'm glad I actually purchased the CX9...no offense to Hyundai owners but that thing I drove didn't inspire confidence in my driving esp in curves and handled like a boat and brakes weren't as good. The engine was powerful and smooth but transmission wasnt as smooth as the 9. The ride was a bit on the harsh side and suspension was jarring and didnt handle bumps well aside from louder cabin noise and dated/cheap looking interior! Sure it sells a lot due to the value it offers (more features for the buck) and only features I liked over the 9 were the panoramic sunroof, ventilated seats and heated 2nd row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monterra View Post
    Well yeah the 3rd row does kinda suck but we rarely use..cargo hold is a good bit bigger in HL.. Its not exactly tossable but with said tire swap is surprisingly capable and comfortable on long drives which are the bulk of my encounters with it. Vans crush mid size suvs for space but we need the awd..awd sienna exists i know..we don't need that kind of space..another kid then maybe we would..
    Yeah, we are 5 and shuttling extra kids just is easier with a mini-van. The odyssey is a nice mini-van as well. Get 27 MPH on the highway with 5 people and cargo. Not bad in my book. We had a Sienna mini-van before this but the quality was not close to the Honda.

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    We run the 3rd row regularly in teh CX9 and it does fine. Even when we have 5, its usual preference to not have to sit elbow to elbow 3 across in the 2nd row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forties View Post
    We run the 3rd row regularly in teh CX9 and it does fine. Even when we have 5, its usual preference to not have to sit elbow to elbow 3 across in the 2nd row.
    Lot of reviewers like to throw the usual criticism for the 3rd row. Then you look at two of the best selling 3 row crossovers - Highlander and Sorento, and they are tighter. One of the things that bother me most about the Highlander is that they aren't even full seat backs. They are 2/3rds a seat back with head rests that hit you in the back. Yet it manages to be #2 in sales and no one complains.

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    ^^IDK the Toyota does a lot of things right(I converted her from somewhat blindly just going Honda down the line)- great motor, reliable, strong resale and can definitely hold more crap when 3rd row is not in use. We get 3 across in hella roomy 2nd row (1 car seat) with no real complaints. Happy though we(more importantly she) is with it I will try to use my jedi powers to usher in another Mazda..'but the dealer is far, and this/that is not as good as the Toyota..etc' (she sure likes her AC)...its a slippery slope so she'll definitely make the final call but I have little doubt HL and CX9 will be among the 2 or 3 finalists when the time comes- yr or 2. AC seats (good ones unlike the BS Toyota rolls out that I refused to authorize) would make the Mazda's case stronger, Mazda! Still appear absent from '18 but nearly a lock for the mid-cycle update, right?
    Last edited by Monterra; 07-21-2017 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monterra View Post
    ^^IDK the Toyota does a lot of things right(I converted her from somewhat blindly just going Honda down the line)- great motor, reliable, strong resale and can definitely hold more crap when 3rd row is not in use. We get 3 across in hella roomy 2nd row (1 car seat) with no real complaints. Happy though we(more importantly she) is with it I will try to use my jedi powers to usher in another Mazda..'but the dealer is far, and this/that is not as good as the Toyota..etc' (she sure likes her AC)...its a slippery slope so she'll definitely make the final call but I have little doubt HL and CX9 will be among the 2 or 3 finalists when the time comes- yr or 2. AC seats (good ones unlike the BS Toyota rolls out that I refused to authorize) would make the Mazda's case stronger, Mazda! Still appear absent from '18 but nearly a lock for the mid-cycle update, right?
    Don't get me wrong, I love the Highlander. I'm still on the fence. My heart wants the CX-9, my brain is leaning toward Highlander, if you know what I mean. For me, it's nearly an impossible choice - I really want both but there's no need for that. Within a few months or so, I must decide. They both earn wins but in so many different ways.

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    If you want to enjoy driving your vehicle, get the CX-9. If you want to enjoy driving others, get the Highlander. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horton View Post
    If you want to enjoy driving your vehicle, get the CX-9. If you want to enjoy driving others, get the Highlander. :-)
    Even this argument about passenger comfort can go to the CX-9. The CX-9 arguably has more comfortable 2nd row seats, with deeper floor wells, and more supportive seats. With captains chairs, the Highlander has a more open feel though. And if you do use the 3rd row, the CX-9 is actually better, plus more room behind 3rd row.

    I have 2 kids, 5 & 3. Will rarely use the 3rd row anyway. Cargo space behind 2nd row of CX-9 is plenty for any road trip.

    It's other qualities that have me on the fence.

    Highlander is better for...

    Long term reliability and longevity. Question for me is how long I plan on keeping it. I don't drive that many miles

    Resale value

    Looks more rugged like an SUV if that's what you want

    Certain available features, separate opening hatch window, etc.

    More HP for high speed passing power, towing capacity

    Interior storage

    Better AC?



    CX-9 better for...

    Driving dynamics

    Interior style, and material quality

    Exterior style (subjective)

    Low end torque and responsiveness

    Total leg room across 3 rows

    Fun image, less mommy mobile, less minivan substitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post

    Highlander is better for...

    Long term reliability and longevity. Question for me is how long I plan on keeping it. I don't drive that many miles
    Both of my existing Mazdas are very reliable.
    Last edited by karthik1516; Yesterday at 04:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karthik1516 View Post
    Both of my existing Mazdas are very reliable.
    Absolutely. Highlander is 500,000 miles and 20+ years material though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    You mean powertrain? No automaker would ever do a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper, they'd be out of business in no time.

    Warranties that matched Hyundai and Kia's would be a big jolt to their sales. It worked big time in growing the Koreans into a powerhouse. Most would never have bought their cars without the big warranty put in place years back. Thing is, I don't think Mazda wants to be that big. They are happy being a small company.
    I still don't understand when people says Mazda is "small" and they don't want to sell too much etc.

    I live in Mexico city and see almost no or just 1 or 2 cx9 but I see about 200 - 300 Mazdas daily between cx5 and Mazda 3 cars... they sell A Lot!!

    Enviado desde mi SM-G935F mediante Tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubanomx View Post
    I still don't understand when people says Mazda is "small" and they don't want to sell too much etc.

    I live in Mexico city and see almost no or just 1 or 2 cx9 but I see about 200 - 300 Mazdas daily between cx5 and Mazda 3 cars... they sell A Lot!!

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    Mazda sells plenty, but they're still small. 15th in the world by volume. Suzuki somehow sells twice as many and they aren't even in the US anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    Mazda sells plenty, but they're still small. 15th in the world by volume. Suzuki somehow sells twice as many and they aren't even in the US anymore.
    The rest of the world buys very differently than North America (USA in particular). As an example, Honda (12th overall) sales are dismal in Australia compared to Mazda (second overall behind Toyota).

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