NelsonLewis
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US Diesel's big splash introduction
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Sorry, getting tired of hearing all the bs- go test drive something similar (glk250 bluetec is probably the closest approximation I can come up with) and then tell me how pointless it is pull the plug whatever..thanks. Yes I feel strongly about it, and as a shareholder and a fan of compression will continue to defend it full stop. Go buy your Tesla or whatever makes you feel good, I want a diesel.
#dontbah8r
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NelsonLewis
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Who*s to say we haven*t. If it*s all BS being posted, then yours runneth just as deep...
I mean we are all talking about an engine they*ve been talking about bringing for what, 5 years now? It*s not like pulling the plug wouldn*t be a bad idea, but I*ll give em a little credit for continuing to try. Like AA as well, still waiting...
^I didn't say everything being posted is here bs but man the crap-o-meter has been spiking of late..why mine runneth just as deep? You've said diesel is nonsense or you're generally a non-fan (for whatever reason) and you're certainly entitled to that opinion as I'm entitled to think VAG caused much of the 5 or so year delay with their deception and lies that runneth real fkn deep and tarnished the tech probably beyond repair.
I made an assumption that you could only really hate on it if you haven't experienced it (in like form). Am I wrong? You've driven something comparable? If so fine I'll own it. But there aren't that many I'd count as comps and if you're generally a non-fan you probably wouldn't waste your time test driving one...with that said I'd really like to your hear thoughts/findings on comparable output diesel vehicles that you or other commenters on here have experienced if any, seriously.
I made an assumption that you could only really hate on it if you haven't experienced it (in like form). Am I wrong? You've driven something comparable? If so fine I'll own it. But there aren't that many I'd count as comps and if you're generally a non-fan you probably wouldn't waste your time test driving one...with that said I'd really like to your hear thoughts/findings on comparable output diesel vehicles that you or other commenters on here have experienced if any, seriously.
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(cricket)So I guess I was right then?..Look statistically I liked my odds and you can like or dislike anything for any reason- I'm just getting tired of hearing diesel is dead, what a waste- the 2.5T will render it obsolete when so many Americans have had so little exposure to a diesel of any kind much less the few truly good ones the have been sold here. They still make plenty of sense for our bigger SUVs- yeah I think the CX-9 would've been an even better candidate for this motor..even though for selfish reasons I'm happy its going in the CX-5 first..I think.
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Maybe they can't tune it right to meet regulations. Hence the poor figures
Or maybe my buddy Elon or someone in his pocket was in charge of the testing..who knows! But we're not getting the weak sauce version so again not seeing this as a disaster by any means...its a hurdle, sub-optimal, I'm sure its not what Mazda was going for but let's see how it shakes out.
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thinking this is most likely the issue.
the last time Mazda got close to releasing a Diesel in the US they pulled the plug because they didn't feel it had the driving characteristics (aka performance) that their brand was known for.
Maybe that was looking to be the case so they just went with driving experience over fuel economy?
odd based on some of the comments that Mazda made previously but it would make sense. sort of.
yup.
I'm waiting to see a driving review (or 5) before rending my verdict. I will admit, it's not looking good but who knows, maybe it'll still be worth it even without hybrid level fuel economy they had originally sought.
Quite possibly.
I wonder how much input Mazda Japan engineers had during regulation compliance or was it just Mazda North American engineers (uhm)
"All of these problems are cured by spending an extra $3,000 to upgrade to Mazda*s excellent, class-benchmark diesel engine. The 2.2-litre twin-turbo has been around a while, and it was already our favourite diesel in a family SUV before these updates, and 420Nm was already a lot * but the new upgrade to 450Nm puts the icing on the cake. The diesel CX-5 is everything the petrol CX-5 is not: it is supremely torquey, effortless to drive, quiet, unexpectedly refined and very fuel efficient. That*s our biggest piece of advice: get the diesel. It is money well spent. You*ll make some (probably not all) of it back in fuel savings, but you*ll enjoy the driving experience much more during your ownership of the car. Plus, the price reductions for 2018 mean you can get the CX-5 diesel in decently-equipped Maxx Sport form for $39,990 * which is a great deal."
Why did you cheap out X?
Why did you cheap out X?
If you get these figures then its the same as ours
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After seeing the economy numbers, yeah, that would be the smart thing.
"I know you like this 2.5G AWD Grand Touring model, but would you like to pay $2500 more for this exact same model, with worse acceleration, a 1-2mpg more highway efficiency, and $0.25 more a gallon to fuel, with more parts to break, and more maintenance items and procedures, in case you want to tow a pop-up camper behind your CUV?" "Great! I knew you'd see the light in this logical upgrade!"---No Mazda Sales Rep. Ever.
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Can you post up some stock CX5D numbers from anywhere in the world that are a legit improvement on the 2.5G? Now, do you think with NA Emissions we are likely to get a freer flowing, stronger CX5D? Okay then.
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Yeah, I don't care about DEF fluid cost. I care about the system itself. Also keep in mind DEF may freeze below 12*F, and you cannot add ANYTHING to DEF to prevent this. It is what it is.
Oh, here is a picture I took last winter, before you start saying "But who cares...?" Well, obviously I do, and I don't even live "up north".
The DEF system can cost significantly to maintain over the course of the life of the car, provided you plan to keep it the 200K miles that one presumes a modern car should AT LEAST last.
*PS, wow, I've driven nearly 20K miles since I took that photo in mid Jan.
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No reply???
http://performancedrive.com.au/2018-mazda-cx-5-diesel-review-touring-gt-video-2823/
Versus a new 2.5 gas you can buy in the heftier, slower V2.0, its an improvement, and its legit. As for what we'll ultimately see..we don't know yet, maybe they turned it up even more hence our lower fe numbers..I'd be fine with that
And you're going to say but mine's still faster so why bother..and I'm going to say you don't buy a diesel to win races- if/when the 2.5T arrives it will easily outgun it and that's fine- I think I'd still choose the diesel (at least when tuned to 190/332+) because it gives you solid performance- again its kinda of a feel thing- like sport mode but more freight train-like its hard to explain with (still very respectable-let's see test results) efficiency. Better grunt, better efficiency, Papa Diesel
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Are you referring to me (uhm) If so then apologies I missed it.
The reason that I didn't go for the diesel is it doesn't make financial sense for me:
- Don't do enough kilometres to justify the extra upfront cost
- Because I don't do enough kilometres, it is quite possible that I would have Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) issues. You need to get the temperature high enough for the DPF to do it's job. Everyone knows that diesel engine is primarily suited to longer distance driving than every day inner city and suburbs driving
NelsonLewis
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Smart...