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    long time mazda owner d0sitmatr's Avatar

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    I got a new cable but its been raining all day and this is my first day off from work. if its not raining tomorrow Im hoping to be able to swap it around.
    this should clear up a lot of the issues Im having, but I still may need a new starter.

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    So your only problem right now is the "no start" ??

    Your car has been behaving otherwise ??
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    I was having a hard time seeing how that little piece of wire could cause all those problems, thinking it would just add a bit of resistance to the circuit and maybe make the starter motor weak.

    But if that's coupled with a bad connection with some sparking and arcing going on then I can see the back feeding happening.
    It looks like he just crimped the wires together with a butt connector too.

    Either way, I hope this is your last problem and your car is up and running again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0sitmatr View Post
    ...unfortunately, the first starter they got was for an auto (I guess they are different... ?) ...
    Yea, I guess they're different...



    I didn't know that either but I would have figured it out before buying a new one.

    Sounds like that mechanic really didn't know what he was doing.
    He probably charged you double too, for doing the job twice.
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    ok, so we replaced the cable, and it cranked right up !!
    even after sitting for almost a year she just purred right along !
    we also found that his "fix" caused a lot of corrosion in the cable (only way it could happen according to my mechanic) so the weak connection + the corrosion at the starter terminal that extended a good 12 inches up the cord is why I was getting so much back feed.
    Im in the process of ordering some pure copper crimp on battery terminals for both +/- sides.
    https://www.electricalhub.com/generi...ery-terminal-1

    and also, just to be on the safe side, Im replacing the ground cable.
    but as things are now, I can go out and just crank her up !
    I know we should have began maybe at the starter, and he wanted too.
    that is mostly my fault as I couldnt believe the starter would be going bad already after only a couple of years, especially since I sprung for the more expensive Bosch. I never even considered the wiring to the starter and what the shop mechanic did.

    so I guess the lesson for me in all this, is stand aside, quit 2nd guessing him (or her) and let your mechanic do his job !! lol
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    Awesome,...
    I'm glad there's another P5 still on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcb View Post
    Awesome,...
    I'm glad there's another P5 still on the road.
    not for long it seems....
    today went out and got in, started her up to run to the next town, but it was pretty hot for once so I turned on the AC, and it sputtered really badly, then ran like crap. immediately turned AC off and it didnt make any difference. here is it running with AC off for almost 5 mins.

    in 2nd vid (which wont upload for some reason... Im working on getting it uploaded.)
    you can hear it sputters really bad when giving it gas, but will run smooth. I had it at 2k rpm and ran smooth, 2.5k and smooth, even took it up to 3k for a minute and ran smooth as butter, just sputters real bad on acceleration and idle is horrible (as you can see in 1st vid)

    https://youtu.be/nsqRS4lDTS4
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    It sounds to me like the magnetic clutch might be kicking in and out ??

    Maybe try unplugging it to see if it stops the noise.
    Might give you some time to diagnose your problem.


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    Here's what the FSM says about a "noisy AC"



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