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- 2021 CX-5 GT
Man, you are one lucky dude. That looks like heck of a lot of fun. I so want a Miata...
2017 test drive CX-5 vs CR-V
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Man, you are one lucky dude. That looks like heck of a lot of fun. I so want a Miata...
Yeah, this 'problem' definitely exists only worse in the rav, na Forester, similar in crv and 17 cx5. While I won't endorse nor judge you flooring it at 80 with a toddler onboard I'd say if this is something you expected to breeze up from 80 to 90 and beyond in you chose wrongly. 184,187,190hp just ain't gonna cut it in one these things. You wanted an x1 , q5 or similar with +50hp or more -ricky bobby.
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I was trying to close the gap not reach 90. Driving cultures are different - here its 80 on the highway if you have good weather and straight road. We have highways here with 80 - 85 posted limits (no minimum). But problem seems to be significant and maybe it is due to the fact that CX-5 is very responsive in speeds under 60.
Thanks for the review! Did you drive front wheel drive, all wheel drive, or both drivetrains?
Thanks for the first hand review. Learned a few things
The small delay is a by product of electronic throttle control I believe. I have the same issue in my 6, but I am used to it and know how much to pressure the accelerator to minimize it
Skyactiv Auto Transmissions are tuned for MPGs hence the lag when applying gas. Perfect for city hypermiling. Tricky for all out acceleration to maximize what little HP we have. To overcome this at a standstill you have the modulate the pedal a certain way. While in motion you have downshift in which we have 3 ways to do so (manual mode, step button, sport mode).
Products such as the Pedal Commander helps eliminate drive by wire lag.Something I've considered but is a bit pricey.
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Yup, yup and yup. I've experienced the "rolling start no power" gutless situations when it tries to take off in 2nd instead of first gear.
A few times when passing on the interstate (75-80 mph) I do feel it doesn't downshift enough and feels incredibly lethargic.
To effectively close a gap at 80 I would think you'd need to hit 85 or 90 in a few ticks..ain't happening without more nuts- yep, sometimes its just that simple. Diesel might do a bit better here with its big torque output but this is more the rate at which work gets done (hp) than the ability to do work (torque) so the 2.5T is a way better fit for higher speed applications. Someone mentioned and is a good point..did you mat it aggressively enough to engage the step button at the bottom of the pedal travel which ensures maximum accel/kick downs?
What do you guys mean when you say close a gap?
I've never driven in Texas.. but closing a gap is not a word I would use to describe any maneuver I have ever done while driving.
Are you talking about passing on a 2 lane road? Are you trying to prevent someone from passing?
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Agreed but the "fuzzy logic" of the computer(s) should be able to determine "full power required hence go all out now"
Use sport mode
A few acceleration and top speed videos for comparison:
2.5L gas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM93UqGHpKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z0BYiMYU6c&vl=en-GB
2.2L diesel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwNUAu6kUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVDEGDEAHhw
In the videos of the 2.5L, acceleration seems to drop off when shifting into 3rd, judging by the rate of the speedo needle, and tapers off more towards the top of 3rd. The top speed hits 121-122 mph according to the speedo. The 2.2 diesel seems to continue pulling strong until midway through 4th. The diesel with auto trans tops out at 210kmh/130mph according to the speedo, while the one with the manual trans hits 215 and seems to accelerate a little harder in all gears. I'm not surprised the diesel accelerates better due to the wider torque curve, but I'm surprised with the higher top speed given the 2.5 supposedly has a 10 HP advantage. It looks to me like the 2.5L could benefit from more gears.
Orange Virus Tuning has graphs displaying stock skyactiv ecu's programmed with dead spots so the power delivery is not linear.
This graph as example reference: http://renkucorp.com/cars/135i/thottle_map.JPG
Blue bar = Stock. Notice deadspots. The CX-5's was more pronounced than this if I recall.
Red = Theoretical Linear.
Green = Pretty aggressive.
A Pedal Commander type of product (there's another legit manufacturer too) provides many adjustments as to offset the CX-5's deadspots. A mild to moderate adjustment would help get us closer to the linear.....not to mention closer to old school manual throttle cables. These products do not add HP but merely allow us to tap them more linearly and without dead spots.
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Sport Mode? lol.... hell no. Not when doing a simple "pulling out of the driveway" maneuver when going about 5 MPH. Its just the way the tranny is programmed, but it can certainly catch a new owner off guard by the way it behaves if they're not prepared for it.
As for the passing on the highway, I find if you ease into the pedal to pass you're usually left lugging in 5th. But the quick stab will get you into 4th, or even 3rd if necessary. Its rare that it doesn't kick down enough, but when it doesn't, it sure is noticeable.
YMMV
I was referring to sports mode whilst on the highway. I agree sometimes, it won't kick down so try it with sports mode on. May help
Yes, its a 2.0 the only powerplant offered in 2013.
Yes, Pitt Meadows! I was there at 8:00AM at the height of the rain, but I was first LOL.
Driving the MX-5 was so fun, despite not having driven a manual stick in 7+ years. I WANT one!
That motor is under powered for a vehicle such as this
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2.0L was never an option I considered.
Glad I was in the market when the 2014's with the 2.5L hit.
Glad I was in the market when the 2014's with the 2.5L hit.
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they were all all wheel drive
