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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    It's only an estimate. This can go 2 ways:

    1. Could actually be slower as weight has increased by up to 40kg (88 pounds)
    2. Maybe a bit faster due to Mazda tweaking gearbox and throttle for instaneous response and also holding the gears longer instead of short shifting


    We won't know until actual tests are performed.
    The CX5 holds the gears until redline in each gear, anyway. What are you talking about? Also, throttle response has nothing to do with 0-60. There is a 1 foot roll-out in those 0-60 times. Reaction time has zip to do with 0-60. It has to do with racing, though. The gearing might better multiply torque though, and that could help. If they changed the gear ratios. Honestly, I think it will still be a driver's race with a 2014 2.5L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    Extra weight might make it low to mid 8s

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    How much weight are we talking exactly? I don't know how much as added. If it's <100#, it will be car-to-car variance that trumps it, still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    The CX5 holds the gears until redline in each gear, anyway. What are you talking about? Also, throttle response has nothing to do with 0-60. There is a 1 foot roll-out in those 0-60 times. Reaction time has zip to do with 0-60. It has to do with racing, though. The gearing might better multiply torque though, and that could help. If they changed the gear ratios. Honestly, I think it will still be a driver's race with a 2014 2.5L.
    My bad. I was referring to the changes made in part throttle. Was listening to Mazda engineer from USA.

    Apparently throttle response is now one quarter of a millisecond compared to what it was before. This is one of the things they are harping on about now. The sooner the car reacts the quicker it gets moving.

    Hope you are right about drivers race between older models and 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    How much weight are we talking exactly? I don't know how much as added. If it's <100#, it will be car-to-car variance that trumps it, still.
    Here in Oz, 40kg or 88lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    Here in Oz, 40kg or 88lbs

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    Meaningless, in this class of vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    My bad. I was referring to the changes made in part throttle. Was listening to Mazda engineer from USA.

    Apparently throttle response is now one quarter of a millisecond compared to what it was before. This is one of the things they are harping on about now. The sooner the car reacts the quicker it gets moving.

    Hope you are right about drivers race between older models and 2017

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    The tq converter still disengages while stopped, probably, making it a moot point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    Meaningless, in this class of vehicle.
    Let's hope you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    The tq converter still disengages while stopped, probably, making it a moot point.
    Fair point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    Fair point

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    My 370Z, I SOMETIMES felt throttle lag, but never in my CX5, the faster reaction time is moot to me. We will just have to wait and see when one is tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    My 370Z, I SOMETIMES felt throttle lag, but never in my CX5, the faster reaction time is moot to me. We will just have to wait and see when one is tested.
    Let's hope we start getting results sooner rather than later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    Let's hope we start getting results sooner rather than later

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    We will, but I don't think it's going to be any different than any of the other one's. The skidpad and slalom might slightly benefit, otherwise, it's all going to be "feel" and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    We will, but I don't think it's going to be any different than any of the other one's. The skidpad and slalom might slightly benefit, otherwise, it's all going to be "feel" and whatnot.
    If it's the same as previous then that's fine with me

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    The new XC60 looks very nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggity View Post
    The new XC60 looks very nice

    That guy feeling it up certainly seems to think so!

    Yeah that car is beautiful. Really like those wheels! And the headlights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggity View Post
    The new XC60 looks very nice
    If the 2017 CX-5 had those wheels, I have a feeling it would look even more upscale and premium and better...


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