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Thread: Official 2017 2nd-Gen CX-5 EPA Fuel Economy Ratings Are Out

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    The CX-5 and CR-V absolutely do compete but they appeal to different buyers within the segment IMO. CR-V the more left brained option, practical above all else. CX-5 buyer wants something a bit different, more engaging, maybe doesn't need all the space, practicality and value the CR-V provides. Unob- I'm telling you there's ZERO chance I'd drive the new CR-V as aggressively as my CX-5 with the 'better handling', 'faster' attributes you like to cite over and over again per very slightly better performance numbers. Why? It doesn't 'want' to, its just not at home doing it, its not nearly as gratifying to drive briskly- from hard acceleration feel to throwing it into a corner you know its an appliance- it works- is it fun? Nope- its a better mousetrap- still boring, still practical, still a great value if you don't go all the way up the ladder. For me (former CR-V owner, few BMWs, MR2, etc) the CX-5 was/is an epiphany- I get my practical ride (albeit somewhat less so) and still get to have some fun while driving.
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    "a bit different"...Yep..That describes me. That's why I drive a Mazda not a Jeep...Or a Honda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monterra View Post
    I get my practical ride (albeit somewhat less so) and still get to have some fun while driving.
    Bingo! No other vehicle in this class of CUVs will achieve this. Some like every gadget, feature, and wood trim. I need an CUV that is awd(let's not all forget how advanced the Mazda system is compared to the reactive system found in Honda), practical, and still really fun. That's why imo the CX5 still beats even the new CRV.

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    I find it humorous when people start talking about driving a 184HP SUV 'aggressively'. LOL as if these sub-200 HP SUV's are M3's or something. Back when I got my 05 Mazda3 several years ago, I saw the same kind of stuff posted online about this car on Mazda3 forums. By the way some people were talking about their Mazda3 you would think they take their cars out to the track every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangoconchile View Post
    I find it humorous when people start talking about driving a 184HP SUV 'aggressively'. LOL as if these sub-200 HP SUV's are M3's or something. Back when I got my 05 Mazda3 several years ago, I saw the same kind of stuff posted online about this car on Mazda3 forums. By the way some people were talking about their Mazda3 you would think they take their cars out to the track every week.
    The fact that you chose a CRV, explains that you don't have the same thinking many of us have as CX5 owners. Which is totally fine. I don't expect you to understand. You prefer to have your wood trim, light up buttons, and extra space. Nothing wrong with that. We like a car that is fun to drive, great awd, great transmission, and CAN be driven aggressively when desired.

    Btw, I find it hilarious that you define horsepower as a deciding factor as to whether a vehicle can be driven aggressively or not. The 155hp MX-5 has a word for you. Once again, proving that you clearly lack the driving spirit and understanding that many of us have here. Yes, it's an SUV but I know you're driving home the whole hp point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redturboeclipse
    how are they "VERY DIFFERENT"? its the same class. I'm going to have to repeat Unobtanium . These go head to head. Mazda rushed this new cx5 and did not realize honda was bringing so much to the table. Read the reviews. The new CRV is actually more sportier and handles better, and brakes better than the cx5.
    Lol. So you are bringing a CVT to compete with Mazda cx5 transmission? Which is the best in this class and the next? ($ 45k luxury segment)

    Alex on autos : cx5 over NX 200t for a drivers cuv. That's the Lexus NX 200t.
    Many reviewers: cx5 is best handling cuv under 40k.

    Listen, even the juke and kia soul are priced similar... Has similar cargo - but target audience is different.


    Mazda is driver oriented, CR-V is cargo and passenger. Its that simple. Generic buyers trying to maximize value should buy CR-V over cx-5.
    Alex summed it up best: CR-V, Rav4 and rogue appeal to my practical side, cx5 appeals to the emotional. Alex rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangoconchile View Post
    I find it humorous when people start talking about driving a 184HP SUV 'aggressively'. LOL as if these sub-200 HP SUV's are M3's or something. Back when I got my 05 Mazda3 several years ago, I saw the same kind of stuff posted online about this car on Mazda3 forums. By the way some people were talking about their Mazda3 you would think they take their cars out to the track every week.
    I find it humorous you keep beating this point to death. Have you driven them both? I have. I bought the one I liked driving better. No...Not a race car driver...But when I popped that thing into Sport and blew past the car in front of me like he was standing still? Sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaps View Post
    Same price segment but they are very different. Something tells me that you did zero research before buying cx5. Ford Kuga would have been a better fit for you.
    What's a Kuga?

    That said, no, I didn't do any* research. But I'm very happy with my CX-5, it's a great appliance.



    *I randomly Googled SUV's a few years back, and off and on out of curiosity while I had my Jeep Grand Cherokee, and noted that the CX5 kept doing well in CR for reliability and when my Jeep finally pissed me off for the last time, at 5am, I pulled up Autotrader and typed "50mi radius, AWD, SUV, NAV, 2013+, <45,000mi, $25,000 max" and went and bought the closest one to me that came up. It happened to be a CX5 2.5L AWD Touring.

    Sadly, I have to pay another $500 if I actually WANT the NAV feature, lol! I'm used to domestics, where if it has nave...bro...IT HAS NAV!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    I find it humorous you keep beating this point to death. Have you driven them both? I have. I bought the one I liked driving better. No...Not a race car driver...But when I popped that thing into Sport and blew past the car in front of me like he was standing still? Sold.

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    Oh sweet Jesus.

    This is worse than the Civic owners when I was in highschool (VTEC, YO! has been replaced with "SPORT MODE, YO!" Except VTEC actually did something to make the vehicle faster.).

    This thing barely breaks into the 15's and won't even trap 90mph in the quarter.

    You might as well tell us how sold you are on boxing after knocking a 2 year old down at the supermarket with "a single massive punch!" ROFL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaps View Post
    Lol. So you are bringing a CVT to compete with Mazda cx5 transmission? Which is the best in this class and the next? ($ 45k luxury segment)

    Alex on autos : cx5 over NX 200t for a drivers cuv. That's the Lexus NX 200t.
    Many reviewers: cx5 is best handling cuv under 40k.

    Listen, even the juke and kia soul are priced similar... Has similar cargo - but target audience is different.


    Mazda is driver oriented, CR-V is cargo and passenger. Its that simple. Generic buyers trying to maximize value should buy CR-V over cx-5.
    Alex summed it up best: CR-V, Rav4 and rogue appeal to my practical side, cx5 appeals to the emotional. Alex rocks.
    This is true, but also consider that a Mercedes C63 AMG is going to beat the everloving crap out of a Dodge Challenger. I guess the Challenger is "a better driver's car..." though? Kindof the same thing here CR-V vs. CX-5, except the disparity is more like "razor thin".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monterra View Post
    The CX-5 and CR-V absolutely do compete but they appeal to different buyers within the segment IMO. CR-V the more left brained option, practical above all else. CX-5 buyer wants something a bit different, more engaging, maybe doesn't need all the space, practicality and value the CR-V provides. Unob- I'm telling you there's ZERO chance I'd drive the new CR-V as aggressively as my CX-5 with the 'better handling', 'faster' attributes you like to cite over and over again per very slightly better performance numbers. Why? It doesn't 'want' to, its just not at home doing it, its not nearly as gratifying to drive briskly- from hard acceleration feel to throwing it into a corner you know its an appliance- it works- is it fun? Nope- its a better mousetrap- still boring, still practical, still a great value if you don't go all the way up the ladder. For me (former CR-V owner, few BMWs, MR2, etc) the CX-5 was/is an epiphany- I get my practical ride (albeit somewhat less so) and still get to have some fun while driving.
    I do freely admit that I like the "feel" of the CX-5. It does very well at what you say. This said, that had nothing to do with why I bought it, and is simply a by-product of chance. Nor would it sell me on it again, over another vehicle, if the other vehicle was proven to be more reliable or was more well equipped or cheaper in the correct proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhu8 View Post
    Here, I'll help you out. Click here--->http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/
    Just for shiggles I followed your link and happened to find this thread: 2018 Volvo XC60 vs 2017 Honda CR-V

    Someone has been drinking the Kool-Aid over there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brillo54 View Post
    Just for shiggles I followed your link and happened to find this thread: 2018 Volvo XC60 vs 2017 Honda CR-V

    Someone has been drinking the Kool-Aid over there!
    Well...they're right. They do look darn near identical, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    What's a Kuga?

    That said, no, I didn't do any* research. But I'm very happy with my CX-5, it's a great appliance.
    Ford Escape is kuga internationally.

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    except the disparity is more like "razor thin".
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    Ok, never knew you test drove the CRV.

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    [QUOTE=Kaps;6497055]Ford Escape is kuga internationally.

    except the disparity is more like "razor thin".
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    Ok, never knew you test drove the CRV.
    I didn't have to. I can look at the specs and tell you how they perform. I'm not talking about "feel", I'm talking about performance.

    The Escape is a POS. It's very unreliable based on the numbers, it's slow, it has low capacity, it has poor economy, its...why would I ever buy that!?

    I think the Forester 2.0XT would have been better suited to my wants, but I didn't feel like spending the money, and my CX-5 has done everything I wanted it to do, I just feel no connection to it. I have no emotions at all regarding it unless it were to break (kindof like a refrigerator or hot water heater).

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