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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi54 View Post
    I'm in Canada, sounds like we'll still have a (base) manual available...

    Still crossing my fingers that since they're aiming the diesel model as the 'performance' variant, it might, just maybe be available with a stick... Come on baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaps View Post
    2017 - it got a 3hp increase, is longer by few inches and shorter by few.
    Funny thing is TFL video that came out 4 hours ago says - Mazda has told me they will release AA and Carplay and it will be compatible with their latest systems. So mostly will work with 16s. Again - no need to get excited. Actually if they offer i may be too lazy to even get it installed.
    Oh I missed that, thanks. 3hp is not much, but every little bit helps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    Thanks for the laugh.

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    How did you get an AWD Touring CX-5 for $22k?

    Able to negotiate better pricing these days compared to back in 2013?
    Bought a rental. No way I'm buying a new econo cuv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    Funny you would say that. I did get someone once try to race me. He was in a Nissan Armada.. I should have gotten smoked, right? Funny thing. I beat him. He caught up to me at the light and flipped me off then threw me a huge smile and a nod. Yea, some here won't believe me. It happened. I almost let him take me because I was still in the break in period. But. I. Just. Had. To.

    That's how I roll.
    I killed a v6 mustang a while back. I was pretty shocked, honestly. I never understood base pony cars. That is why, lol

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    More curious about what this HP increase means for the overall powerband; not just 3 more peak hp. But you won't know these thing without a dyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Top_Her View Post
    More curious about what this HP increase means for the overall powerband; not just 3 more peak hp. But you won't know these thing without a dyno.
    Probably bs. I know from 1989 to 1993 the Mustang gt lost a few hp due to cam profiles etc. It was meaningless on the dyno.

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    Arrow Official 2017 2nd-Gen CX-5 EPA Fuel Economy Ratings Are Out

    Quote Originally Posted by piotrek91 View Post
    I bet it's quite a bit heavier.. just like Unobtanium wanted it to be.
    It's also supposed to be very quiet inside, so that might be a worthwhile trade off.

    I bet the FWD no longer has the taller gear ratios that helped it get 33MPG HWY.
    With the extra weight it probably needs to be geared the same as the AWD for acceptable acceleration.
    US version 2017 CX-5 2.5L's are indeed heavier than 2016.5 - by 94 lbs in FWD and 66 lbs in AWD.

    But final drive gear ration in FWD is still taller: 4.325 FWD to 4.624 AWD.

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    Arrow Official 2017 2nd-Gen CX-5 EPA Fuel Economy Ratings Are Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Top_Her View Post
    More curious about what this HP increase means for the overall powerband; not just 3 more peak hp. But you won't know these thing without a dyno.
    187 hp @ 6,000 rpm for 2017 vs. 184 hp @ 5,700 rpm for 2016.5, isn't the difference from a little higher rpm?

    Also Mazda has made the maximum engine torque for 2017 CX-5 AWD to occur at higher RPM than FWD for 2017. I remember in Japan CX-5 SA-G 2.5L AWD has a bit lower hp and torque than its FWD for some reason.

    SkyActiv-G 2.5L
    Horsepower SAE net 187 @ 6,000 rpm
    Torque SAE net lb-ft 185 @ 3,250 rpm (FWD)
    185 @ 4,000 rpm (AWD)

    And for 2017 CX-5 the final ratio on FWD is still taller than AWD:

    Gear Ratios 2.5L FWD 6AT 2.5L AWD 6AT
    Final drive 4.325 4.624

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    Who mentioned that it has class leading noise reduction? That would be interesting.

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    $37K for a CRV?!! I already got a few offer for top trim Touring AWD for $33K lol

    as for it's mileage

    https://youtu.be/ZEciu_A-1fw?t=14m26s

    "we average almost 40MPG on AWD 17 CRV Touring" highway WOW

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    On the 2.2 Diesel:
    If you are in state where diesel is cheaper - I think it will give you a 36+ mpg - can go as high as 40 / 45 mpg - equivalent to gas adjusted US mpg.
    In Texas the diesel should do 34 combined to 38 or 40 based on how good you drive and if you can upshift sooner than the ECU - based on current Diesel vs gas prices. That is very good though I was expecting 40 up.

    3000 or so added cost for Diesel. So fully loaded one will end out to be 36-37K. Fuel savings will be about 6-8 mpg. which is 240 a year assuming 2 dollars gas. It is 370 based on 10 year average gas prices.
    I would surely consider one used - but as things stand 2.2D if it consistently tops 40 I might be willing to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangoconchile View Post
    How is it possible that it gets worse gas mileage? As Donald Trump would say, 'Sad!'
    EPA changed how they calculate the fuel economy from what I heard. I don't know why people are getting their panties in a bunch. If you don't like it buy something else. If this isn't a deal killer for you buy a Mazda. Test drive, look at the reviews. Look at the reliability ratings and choose what you think will make you happy.
    Last edited by Kellic; 03-20-2017 at 04:40 PM.

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    For someone from UK - if you manually selected your upshifts would the 2.2D do 0 to 100 in about 7 seconds? Has someone seen this?
    Seems to me the diesel would do 2.7 secs till 50 kmph and then just break away with amazing powah!!!!
    It would be a neat alternative, ticking all boxes for eco users plus diesel faithful crowd.
    Mazda's timing on Diesel in USA seems bad - they needed it in june or july or earlier, not august.
    If we had diesels soon - there was an outside chance of 170K sales, right now it seems this MY should see 140K or so - still very solid number.

    It seems if you were doing 45-50 with minmimal winds and flat road - the 16.5 FWD would do 43 mpg on its instantaneous mpg gauge, the 2.2 in similar would do 60+ that is just amazing number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yrwei52 View Post
    US version 2017 CX-5 2.5L's are indeed heavier than 2016.5 - by 94 lbs in FWD and 66 lbs in AWD.

    But final drive gear ration in FWD is still taller: 4.325 FWD to 4.624 AWD.
    Looks like my speculation about the gear ratios was wrong!

    It's interesting that the peak torque RPM for the FWD is lower than the AWD.

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    Arrow Official 2017 2nd-Gen CX-5 EPA Fuel Economy Ratings Are Out

    Quote Originally Posted by piotrek91 View Post
    Looks like my speculation about the gear ratios was wrong!

    It's interesting that the peak torque RPM for the FWD is lower than the AWD.
    Actually it's the AWD which rises the rpm from 3,250 to 4,000 for maximum torque. But strangely FWD got affected more on the EPA fuel estimates than AWD but both with added weight.

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