Testament to Mazda safety

Man, why are you so negative all the time. The Mazda CX-5, like most all its competitors are top safety picks (TSP+) by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety institute.

The NHTSA ratings are a 4/5 - similar to the Rouge, the 2015 CR-V and Rav-4. Your post gives the impression that the CX-5 is an unsafe car as compared to all the others and that is just not true.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2016/MAZDA/CX-5/SUV/AWD#safety-ratings-side
My first post in this thread only agreed sillyxone's point that Jenn was lucky and the article doesn't prove CX-5 is safer than any other competitors in the same class. Worse when people saw the picture of totally crushed passenger area the bad feeling would come up. Honestly all other compact CUVs may look the same under similar collision. I simply think this is not a good "testament to Mazda safety"!

As for poorer NHTSA frontal crash test ratings for 2016 CX-5, I myself also got caught by surprise, after recommending CX-5 to many friends and family saying it has all 5-star NHTSA frontal crash ratings printed on the window sticker! But your statement about CX-5 is "similar to the Rouge, the 2015 CR-V and Rav-4" is simply incorrect. 2015 CX-5 has the best all 5-star ratings in NHTSA frontal crash ratings. It's 2016 CX-5 which got downgraded and no longer can compete with others. In fact, the 3-star passenger side rating is the worse in the class! Here are NHTSA data I tabulated for US top 10 selling compact CUV/SUVs:

2016 US Top 10 Compact SUV/CUVs
NHTSA Data
Overall RatingsOverall Front Star RatingFront Driver SideFront Passenger SideRecallsComplaints2016 Sales
Honda CR-V5555145357,335
Toyota RAV45444250352,154
Nissan Rogue4443234329,904
Ford Escape4444054307,069
Chevrolet Equinox4454118242,195
Jeep Cherokee4444477199,736
Subaru Forester5454136178,593
Jeep Patriot4334125121,926
Mazda CX-54453482112,235
Jeep Renegade4444244106,606

I also noticed that 2016 CX-5 has the most number of recalls and the most number of complaints! Mind you 2016 CX-5 sold about one-third of units comparing to top 4 selling CUVs, this number of complaints means very significant percentage wise! Even each Jeep has less complaints! These bad NHTSA data on CX-5 are not targeted by some special groups who are filing too many complaints against CX-5 trying to damage CX-5's reputation like one member here insisted. I do believe these NHTSA data indicate one of the reasons why CX-5 sales couldn't increase as fast as Nissan Rogue did in the US.

Here are more discussions about NHTSA crash rating downgrading. And I do believe recent Special Service Program A6 is for fixing high Nij number on passenger side.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/database/MEDIA/GetMedia.aspx?tstno=8209&index=1&database=V&type=R2014/2015 Report

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2016 Report

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The Front Crash rating for the driver is still 5 stars and most of the other scores are very good. The one 3 rating is for the front passenger. Hopefully, they'll come up with a fix. Based on the chart a few posts above, it appears the Nij number may have been the culprit. Perhaps an air bag change or something not too difficult might improve the rating. I'm not happy since I bought the 16 model for safety reasons, ⋯

2016 CX-5 NHTSA Crash-Test Safety Rating: 3 (out of 5) for Frontal Crash - Passenger
 
My first post in this thread only agreed sillyxone's point that Jenn was lucky and the article doesn't prove CX-5 is safer than any other competitors in the same class. Worse when people saw the picture of totally crushed passenger area the bad feeling would come up. Honestly all other compact CUVs may look the same under similar collision. I simply think this is not a good "testament to Mazda safety"!

As for poorer NHTSA frontal crash test ratings for 2016 CX-5, I myself also got caught by surprise, after recommending CX-5 to many friends and family saying it has all 5-star NHTSA frontal crash ratings printed on the window sticker! But your statement about CX-5 is "similar to the Rouge, the 2015 CR-V and Rav-4" is simply incorrect. 2015 CX-5 has the best all 5-star ratings in NHTSA frontal crash ratings. It's 2016 CX-5 which got downgraded and no longer can compete with others. In fact, the 3-star passenger side rating is the worse in the class! Here are NHTSA data I tabulated for US top 10 selling compact CUV/SUVs:

2016 US Top 10 Compact SUV/CUVs
NHTSA Data
Overall RatingsOverall Front Star RatingFront Driver SideFront Passenger SideRecallsComplaints2016 Sales
Honda CR-V5555145357,335
Toyota RAV45444250352,154
Nissan Rogue4443234329,904
Ford Escape4444054307,069
Chevrolet Equinox4454118242,195
Jeep Cherokee4444477199,736
Subaru Forester5454136178,593
Jeep Patriot4334125121,926
Mazda CX-54453482112,235
Jeep Renegade4444244106,606

I also noticed that 2016 CX-5 has the most number of recalls and the most number of complaints! Mind you 2016 CX-5 sold about one-third of units comparing to top 4 selling CUVs, this number of complaints means very significant percentage wise! Even each Jeep has less complaints! These bad NHTSA data on CX-5 are not targeted by some special groups who are filing too many complaints against CX-5 trying to damage CX-5's reputation like one member here insisted. I do believe these NHTSA data indicate one of the reasons why CX-5 sales couldn't increase as fast as Nissan Rogue did in the US.

Here are more discussions about NHTSA crash rating downgrading. And I do believe recent Special Service Program A6 is for fixing high Nij number on passenger side.





2016 CX-5 NHTSA Crash-Test Safety Rating: 3 (out of 5) for Frontal Crash - Passenger

I don't think you know what negative means. This post, like your last post, like your posts about Mazda sales figures, and EPA mileage are just all negative in tone and are meant to imply something that just is not accurate.
 
I am absolutely a fan of the way Mazda has built the structure of the CX5.

Regarding wrecks, vehicles of a modern era are impressive!
 
My first post in this thread only agreed sillyxone's point that Jenn was lucky and the article doesn't prove CX-5 is safer than any other competitors in the same class. Worse when people saw the picture of totally crushed passenger area the bad feeling would come up. Honestly all other compact CUVs may look the same under similar collision. I simply think this is not a good "testament to Mazda safety"!

As for poorer NHTSA frontal crash test ratings for 2016 CX-5, I myself also got caught by surprise, after recommending CX-5 to many friends and family saying it has all 5-star NHTSA frontal crash ratings printed on the window sticker! But your statement about CX-5 is "similar to the Rouge, the 2015 CR-V and Rav-4" is simply incorrect. 2015 CX-5 has the best all 5-star ratings in NHTSA frontal crash ratings. It's 2016 CX-5 which got downgraded and no longer can compete with others. In fact, the 3-star passenger side rating is the worse in the class! Here are NHTSA data I tabulated for US top 10 selling compact CUV/SUVs:

2016 US Top 10 Compact SUV/CUVs
NHTSA Data
Overall RatingsOverall Front Star RatingFront Driver SideFront Passenger SideRecallsComplaints2016 Sales
Honda CR-V5555145357,335
Toyota RAV45444250352,154
Nissan Rogue4443234329,904
Ford Escape4444054307,069
Chevrolet Equinox4454118242,195
Jeep Cherokee4444477199,736
Subaru Forester5454136178,593
Jeep Patriot4334125121,926
Mazda CX-54453482112,235
Jeep Renegade4444244106,606

I also noticed that 2016 CX-5 has the most number of recalls and the most number of complaints! Mind you 2016 CX-5 sold about one-third of units comparing to top 4 selling CUVs, this number of complaints means very significant percentage wise! Even each Jeep has less complaints! These bad NHTSA data on CX-5 are not targeted by some special groups who are filing too many complaints against CX-5 trying to damage CX-5's reputation like one member here insisted. I do believe these NHTSA data indicate one of the reasons why CX-5 sales couldn't increase as fast as Nissan Rogue did in the US.

Here are more discussions about NHTSA crash rating downgrading. And I do believe recent Special Service Program A6 is for fixing high Nij number on passenger side.





2016 CX-5 NHTSA Crash-Test Safety Rating: 3 (out of 5) for Frontal Crash - Passenger

Man, realistically, that's just how a vehicle is going to look when something heavy and *fast* like that comes calling. I have seen people walk away from absolutely MANGLED vehicles, like the C5 corvette a friend of mine flipped 3 times down an embankment at 65mph when it hydroplaned. He and his passenger walked away. The Corvette looked like it ran over an IED and then flipped over on the roof and slid over another one.
 
Hats off to this woman and her CX5. I've been in 2 wrecks that have totaled both vehicles at about half the speed and I can tell you it's violent! The CX5 did its job. But I'm STILL waiting for my rear door strut replacement, got that letter months ago about a URGENT safety matter...
 
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