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    You won't miss being able to touch it with that Knob. Seriously. It's that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lampcord View Post
    I'm coming from a Jeep Wrangler where you can use the touchscreen while driving. Which I have no problem with except the ride in that thing is so bumpy that it's sometimes hard to hit the button I'm aiming for and still keep my eyes on the road.

    I like the idea of Mazda's knob but I would definitely prefer to have the choice of using the screen. Although since I'm picking mine up next Saturday, I'm assuming it will have the latest software version and therefore not be hackable by this particular hack.
    As mentioned above, you won't miss the touchscreen when using the command knob.

    if you do hack and add AA and Waze, then the touchscreen is handy. But without doing the tweaks, i didn't miss the touchscreen except for nav, but then I tend to use Waze or Google as it is just more complete then any factory nav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    Thought folks would be more excited about this. LOL

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    This is great! Much better that looking all the way down to the console, thanks man!

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    Can they at least allow the Command knob to do everything it does while stopped? I wanted to switch from intermittent wipers to rain sensing. While I could get to the menu, I had to stop in order to check the box. I didn't have to select from a list, or read anything...just text a box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedar View Post

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    Things can happen on the road at anytime where you need quick reactions to avoid. I've had to avoid ladders, lawn chairs, boxes, a dead deer that was dead center in my lane at night where there was no street lights. Those are the more rare occasions, but they are expensive ones. Expensive in money, time, stress, and annoyance to deal with insurance and the repair companies, and sometimes the frustration of now paying more for insurance for the next few years.
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    Without any distractions, I came upon a 6 or 8 foot aluminum ladder in the middle of my lane while at highway speeds in a hard rain. I didn't dare try and avoid it, so I went over it with my '97 MPV. I was fortunate that I had the split second to make a conscious thought of which action to take. Tore a gash in the gas tank, but didn't go through. Lucked out that time!

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    However, I am not a fan of commands and interaction getting locked out while driving. I can't tell you how often we are driving and we want to do something, especially with the Nav, and can't do it and can't pull over because, no room to safely pull over(may get just the tires off the lane to park), not allowed to park on this road, before this sign, that sign, during blah hours.
    My wife and I also get a little frustrated about getting locked out while in motion, specially about inputting a new address. However, we both prefer to put up with that, than have someone who is much more capable than the average driver accidentally get distracted while changing the colors on the map and run into us.

    Quote Originally Posted by leedar View Post
    I'm a fan of completely locking out all touch screen interaction while driving and more tactile interaction and larger Heads-Up-Displays (use the whole drivers side window with info at the top, sides, and bottom).
    So am I! Good for Apple that put a lot of thought into this and didn't rush out with every app possible, and good for Mazda for making a conscious decision to treat their touch screen the way they do.

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    Disagree. Completely. I think we as a species are getting hung up on the fact that...it's a SCREEN.
    OMG! SCREENS ARE BAD. DON'T TEXT AND DRIVE. YOU'LL KILL SOMEONE.
    While I, of course, agree that you shouldn't look at your phone while driving, we have now equated the screen in our car to being the equivalent of the phone screen. SCREEN = EVIL. It's simply not. My car screen isn't going to make me take my eyes of the road for 10 seconds like reading or replying to a text might. It's no different then running the heater or the in dash old school radio.
    Y'now what the #1 cause of crashes was in the 70's? Same thing it is today: distracted driving. Looking down to mess with the radio or switch out the 8 track tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    Disagree. Completely. I think we as a species are getting hung up on the fact that...it's a SCREEN.
    OMG! SCREENS ARE BAD. DON'T TEXT AND DRIVE. YOU'LL KILL SOMEONE.
    While I, of course, agree that you shouldn't look at your phone while driving, we have now equated the screen in our car to being the equivalent of the phone screen. SCREEN = EVIL. It's simply not. My car screen isn't going to make me take my eyes of the road for 10 seconds like reading or replying to a text might. It's no different then running the heater or the in dash old school radio.
    Y'now what the #1 cause of crashes was in the 70's? Same thing it is today: distracted driving. Looking down to mess with the radio or switch out the 8 track tape.
    Well said.

    Car manufacturers can fuck right off with nannies. Something will always distract someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    Disagree. Completely. I think we as a species are getting hung up on the fact that...it's a SCREEN.
    OMG! SCREENS ARE BAD. DON'T TEXT AND DRIVE. YOU'LL KILL SOMEONE.
    While I, of course, agree that you shouldn't look at your phone while driving, we have now equated the screen in our car to being the equivalent of the phone screen. SCREEN = EVIL. It's simply not. My car screen isn't going to make me take my eyes of the road for 10 seconds like reading or replying to a text might. It's no different then running the heater or the in dash old school radio.
    Y'now what the #1 cause of crashes was in the 70's? Same thing it is today: distracted driving. Looking down to mess with the radio or switch out the 8 track tape.
    Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!!! I just joined this forum after reading the thread. A few days ago I came "this" close to pulling the trigger on a Mazda 3 GT manual (I drive an auto now and really miss stick), but the touchscreen thing just infuriates me. I'm afraid it will be a permanent annoyance when I drive the car. To the other posters, I can add a few data points regarding other brands. Hondas (Civic, Accord) for years have been entirely touchscreen, to the point of even removing the volume knob (which they are finally restoring now after years of backlash). And my 2016 VW Jetta is also touchscreen driven, and is completely active while driving except (I think) for entering addresses into the nav. The VW infotainment is flawless; you have a series of big radio preset buttons at the bottom of the screen to change stations with the radio (5 at a time, and you can swipe the screen to show ten more), to pause/rw/ff with bluetooth and music, and even to select folders, albums and songs on the SD card (which they also helpfully provide). Hard buttons are on the side to adjust inputs, and they have volume and tuning knobs. It's simple and it just freaking works. Unfortunately, they are getting away from providing stick on all but the most basic trims.

    I do find it interesting, though, how much people do seem to like the Commander knob despite the touchscreen nannying. Here's a couple questions:

    1) When you want to change radio stations through favorites, it looks like you hit the star button, then what? It looks like you get a list of stations, and then you spin the command knob until you get the one you want?

    2) If you are listening to your phone through bluetooth, is there a way to easily pause play, or jump forward or back 30 seconds using the knob? I listen to a lot of podcasts.

    Thanks for any suggestions, I've been scouring Mazda forums trying to get more tips about the Commander knob. It is literally the only issue giving me pause about buying the Mazda3.

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    1. You can hit the star button and it will bring up your list. You can scroll and click that way. I use the steering wheel forward back buttons for that though unless there's a specific favorite I want. Then it's wheel. The buttons on the wheel take you through them one at a time.

    2. Is more app dependent. With Spotify those buttons advance to the next podcast episode. Annoying. I think on Stitcher it's a 15 sec hop. podcast a few times a week lately and could look into this more if no one has a more specific answer.
    I don't think I've actually tried the knob during a podcast. That would kick serious ass if you could rewind with it. Kind of doubt.
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    The Podcast function concerned me too.
    No worry. It’s a dream with the knob. I use it with the usb (haven’t tested Bluetooth).
    Whole in Podcast mode: I push the knob (to 12 o’clock) and it presents a “progress bar” which can be forwarded (push to 3 o’clock) or set back (push to 9 o’clock) 10 or 15 seconds. You can also twist the knob; each click turn is approx 15 seconds forward or back.
    Buy the car... you’ll love the commander knob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyTires View Post
    The Podcast function concerned me too.
    No worry. It*s a dream with the knob. I use it with the usb (haven*t tested Bluetooth).
    Whole in Podcast mode: I push the knob (to 12 o*clock) and it presents a *progress bar* which can be forwarded (push to 3 o*clock) or set back (push to 9 o*clock) 10 or 15 seconds. You can also twist the knob; each click turn is approx 15 seconds forward or back.
    Buy the car... you*ll love the commander knob.
    Thank you so much for the response. Great to hear the commander knob has little built in functions; I've had a lot of trouble finding out that kind of detailed info. Is there a pause functionality built in somehow? You've certainly told me enough to test drive it again.

    If anyone reading those knows of any detailed rundown of the commander knob functions (beyond the basics that dealers and Mazda posts), I'd love to see it. One of the things I'm finding with Mazda is that there are a lot of message boards people post on, and I feel like I'm missing a mother lode of info somewhere.

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    Because that's really about the extent of it. There isn't much cheaper more to it.
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