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Thread: Carplay and Android Auto coming soon? Crossing fingers..........

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    I can't speak on others who are being critical of Mazda and the CX5,

    But for those who question why some of us are even commenting when we don't own the car....well its because we are potential buyers.

    And despite what many here feel about Android Auto and Apple Carplay not being important...... Believe me outside this forum and in a broader sense, Apple Carplay and Android auto is a HUGE deal. I mean look around on the reviews for all cars and even the upcoming 17 CX5. How many mentions of Android/Apple or in MAzda's case..LACK THERE OF. I mean look at the other mazda forum where they hacked it to run a shoddy unreliable version of Android Auto..... just to have it even though it is unreliable AF. Pages and pages, you know people want it.

    There are many like myself who don't plan to lease or trade in a car ever few years. We intend to keep whatever car we are buying until the wheels fall off so making sure it has every feature that we feel should be standard these days is important.

    I was cross-shopping the CX9 until I settled to just sticking to the CX5/CRV/RAV4 class. And even prior to CX9's debut I was hoping and waiting it would have Android/Apple. We all know that never came to be, but at the time, media/press said it was coming. Fast forward to the 2nd year of the CX9 and still no official word. Just hearsay. If I had invested (well not invest because buying any car is a loss as soon as you drive it out the lot) but took all the hearsay I would be so dissapointed that after months/year(s) still nothing. I rather manufacturers do away with navigation and what Garmin/Tomtom or whatever partners they use. Probably save the consumer some $$. You can do offline maps now with Google maps and is updated regularly.

    I'm sure mazda is reading/viewing all the official first drive/reviews from press that they invited to try the new CX5. Almost all--heck I think all Ive watched mention the infotainment and lack of Android Auto Apple Carplay. Last year it wasn't as important or criticized from when the Cx9 came out, but now its definitely more of a bigger deal. We all just have to wait and see if they come through.

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    Well that is nice to know that you're being critical because you're interested in buying one. Mange just bought a car and isn't in the market.

    I will not deny there are people out there just champing at the bit (chomping?) for this tech but I do question your assertion that it is most people? Yea, I don't think it's "most people". Most average people buying these grocery getters probably aren't even aware of what Apple Car Play even IS until the delaer sits them in the CR-V and says "Check this feature out".
    As I've said I am THE tech guy in my circle of humans. EVERYONE asks me for advice about everything. None of them are talking about this stuff. Friend just bought a new car that has AA - she didn't even know it had it when I mentioned it to her.
    It's obviously a deal breaker for you, so you should remove the CX-5 from your short list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    It's obviously a deal breaker for you, so you should remove the CX-5 from your short list.
    That's a bit dramatic, especially with partially confirmed rumors that Mazda is bringing it. It's not too much to ask for Mazda to officially say yes it's coming at some point to these specific vehicles.

    The fact that many early reviews called out the absence of these two features is telling enough and should be a warning for Mazda to get their act together.

    Navigating through Google Maps is exponentially more accurate and helpful than the built-in navigation... that alone is why it's a deal-breaker to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    Well that is nice to know that you're being critical because you're interested in buying one. Mange just bought a car and isn't in the market.

    I will not deny there are people out there just champing at the bit (chomping?) for this tech but I do question your assertion that it is most people? Yea, I don't think it's "most people". Most average people buying these grocery getters probably aren't even aware of what Apple Car Play even IS until the delaer sits them in the CR-V and says "Check this feature out".
    As I've said I am THE tech guy in my circle of humans. EVERYONE asks me for advice about everything. None of them are talking about this stuff. Friend just bought a new car that has AA - she didn't even know it had it when I mentioned it to her.
    It's obviously a deal breaker for you, so you should remove the CX-5 from your short list.
    Agreed. Red I can appreciate your points and criticality of the CX-5 from your position as a potential buyer. Mango on the other hand already bought the CR-V, and for some reason keeps coming on here to trash talk the CX-5.

    I do agree with 7 in the sense that I am also a huge techie, work in IT, yet I don't care at all about Carplay or Android Auto. Would they be nice features? Absolutely, and I won't argue against that. But for me, they are not a big deal to have. Would they be nice to have? For sure. Do I lose any sleep at night wishing I had it? Nah. I tend to like simpler cars, and don't spend too much time messing with my infotainment system, I don't have the NAV, and I'm perfectly content with that. I just like to throw on the radio and drive.

    I accept that that's not everybody though and if CP/AA are a big deal, then CX-5 may not be for you.

    But I also agree with 7, that I don't necessarily see the infotainment system as being the most important feature for potential buyers. I agree that a lot of people probably don't even know about CP/AA (I'm a techie and didn't even know about them, that's how much I don't care about them as a dealbreaker feature).
    Last edited by ColoradoDriver; 03-20-2017 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhu8 View Post
    Everyone knows your history here mango. I don't need to explain myself.

    For actual CX5 owners, I picked up this https://www.amazon.com/WizGear-Unive...hone+car+mount
    Put it right in the center vents and I load up GMaps and Waze. Front and center for you and actually creates a nice setup. I tried AA for just the phone and while it was nice, it was just easier to use the main apps for navigation.
    Interesting. Does it work if you have a case on your phone?

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    I have a vent mount like that. But when I used it, with the phone, it was too heavy and would always wind up pointing the phone towards the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangoconchile View Post
    If CarPlay/AA is important to you do not buy the car until it's actually implemented. I think Mazda stated a few years ago these features would be added in the future but never were.
    Did you ever get your CarPlay random disconnect issues sorted for your CRV at the dealership? Was it an Apple issue or a Honda issue? My understanding is just about every car maker is having problems with CarPlay/AA. I know some folks whom have adopted them backing and not using them. Makes me wonder just what exactly we're missing out. A quirky sometimes works sometimes doesn't app or a full fledged seamless app that integrates our smart phone into our car's infotainment system with no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangoconchile View Post
    If Mazda wanted to add CarPlay or AA to thier vehicles they would have added it years ago. The reason why they haven't is because they have no intention to add it.



    Mazda has shifted to wanting a premium feel / stance. That is the going statement across the board. They may have decided that there is enough clamoring for this feature that its time to pull the trigger. Because at this point its Mazda and Toyota that don't have a model with Carplay / AA.

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    I've had AA in my rental for 3 months now. (2016 hyundai sonata) First with my Nexus 6 and now my Samsung S7 edge that I just got yesterday. Flawless with both phones. Google Maps works well. Audible and Spotify does as well along with message notifications and response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    Interesting. Does it work if you have a case on your phone?

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    Yeah, works perfect! The phone does not move around at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellic View Post



    Mazda has shifted to wanting a premium feel / stance. That is the going statement across the board. They may have decided that there is enough clamoring for this feature that its time to pull the trigger. Because at this point its Mazda and Toyota that don't have a model with Carplay / AA.
    Nissan as well doesn't have it. But out of the 3 (mazda, toyota, nissan).. Mazda seems to be making the most news about having it "soon"

    Toyota I believe is firm about not conforming and trying to build on their crappy system entune or whatever its called. No idea what nissan thinks about it. EDIT: I just saw its in vehicles in Japan already and Android site says coming soon. I think toyota's popularity can allow it to still sell its vehicles without it. Mazda I dont think has that popularity. I would think even Honda could still sell well without it, I mean they did with the previous gen CRV. So adding AA/Carplay on the Mazdas will def help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redturboeclipse View Post
    Nissan as well doesn't have it. But out of the 3 (mazda, toyota, nissan).. Mazda seems to be making the most news about having it "soon"

    Toyota I believe is firm about not conforming and trying to build on their crappy system entune or whatever its called. No idea what nissan thinks about it. EDIT: I just saw its in vehicles in Japan already and Android site says coming soon. I think toyota's popularity can allow it to still sell its vehicles without it. Mazda I dont think has that popularity. I would think even Honda could still sell well without it, I mean they did with the previous gen CRV. So adding AA/Carplay on the Mazdas will def help.
    I definitely agree with this. Mazda is not big or popular enough to not include basic features like AA/Carplay. These are starting to become a standard feature on many vehicles and Mazda really needs to jump on it. A simple addition that can really make their line of vehicles more attractive.

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    Japanese manufacturers tend not to like to have outside brands in their cars. Having Bose (or other system) is fairly recent. Also if you think Japan is technologically advanced, they aren't. It took years for iPhones to catch on here with younger folks. Around half the homes still don't have internet, most offices still use fax machines frequently, ATMs still close at night, and you can buy VCR's and cassette tapes everywhere.
    This may explain why the Carplay and AA systems are taking a while.

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    Car companies were slow to adopt it in general because the fact is: it's still not that in demand. Sure you read forums like this one that have a 20+ page thread talking about it, but for Joe Average on the street? They aren't screaming for it. AA and ACP are not selling that many cars. I work with 40 people. Not one has either in their car and we're talking everything from an Audi S8, several Mercedes, Jeep, down to the latest Chevy SS. It's just not that in demand yet. That's why some car companies are hesitant to adopt it. Will it REALLY take off? Surely, it will. A woman I work with bought a Highlander. I tried explaining to her about AA and how she might like it. "Nah, I like the system Toyota has". It reads her texts, has decent Navi. She has no need or desire to use AA versus what Toyota already offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyredsox View Post
    Japanese manufacturers tend not to like to have outside brands in their cars. Having Bose (or other system) is fairly recent. Also if you think Japan is technologically advanced, they aren't. It took years for iPhones to catch on here with younger folks. Around half the homes still don't have internet, most offices still use fax machines frequently, ATMs still close at night, and you can buy VCR's and cassette tapes everywhere.
    This may explain why the Carplay and AA systems are taking a while.
    At least you guys have fancier toilets with the whole control panel :-)

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