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    Not to mention RTV is cheaper

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    So here's a question.

    I did my first drain/fill sessions around 71k, which admittedly I should have done sooner, but oh well. I was thinking maybe 30-40k around 100-110k miles, but wasn't sure. What do you think a good next mileage interval would be? Would it also make sense to just go ahead and drop the pan and change the filter too by that point and mess with this RTV or whatever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    So here's a question.

    I did my first drain/fill sessions around 71k, which admittedly I should have done sooner, but oh well. I was thinking maybe 30-40k around 100-110k miles, but wasn't sure. What do you think a good next mileage interval would be? Would it also make sense to just go ahead and drop the pan and change the filter too by that point and mess with this RTV or whatever?
    Interesting. Last time in (something very minor) the service manager said to not change the tranny fluid that it was life time. Doing so was not a good thing.

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    Sorry if it*s been shared before but I think this cat has the right idea: https://youtu.be/RuNNqh8-jkw

    Colorado, give it another 50k. 125k sounds like a nice round number People over at BITOG are way more aggressive though. I saw somebody suggest fluid changes every 20-25k after the initial change, but I think that*s overkill for this animal.

    Or do it when you*re flushing/replacing your coolant around 100k if you can*t wait lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBMongoos View Post
    Interesting. Last time in (something very minor) the service manager said to not change the tranny fluid that it was life time. Doing so was not a good thing.
    My fluid analysis on drained atf says otherwise.

    And my local dealer says the exact opposite of yours, but then they try to sell a flush which can't be done on these. Long story short, most dealers don't know jack and either tow the company line of "lifetime" fluid, or they say change fluid is necessary but then they sell you a service that can't be done lol. Very few good, honest dealers it seems.

    Go with common sense. Mazda also refused to define what "lifetime" means in years or miles when I reached out to them, so if you plan to own your CX-5 forever like me, makes sense to regularly change a wear item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthrj View Post
    Sorry if it*s been shared before but I think this cat has the right idea: https://youtu.be/RuNNqh8-jkw

    Colorado, give it another 50k. 125k sounds like a nice round number People over at BITOG are way more aggressive though. I saw somebody suggest fluid changes every 20-25k after the initial change, but I think that*s overkill for this animal.

    Or do it when you*re flushing/replacing your coolant around 100k if you can*t wait lol.
    Sounds like solid advice. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    My fluid analysis on drained atf says otherwise.

    And my local dealer says the exact opposite of yours, but then they try to sell a flush which can't be done on these. Long story short, most dealers don't know jack and either tow the company line of "lifetime" fluid, or they say change fluid is necessary but then they sell you a service that can't be done lol. Very few good, honest dealers it seems.

    Go with common sense. Mazda also refused to define what "lifetime" means in years or miles when I reached out to them, so if you plan to own your CX-5 forever like me, makes sense to regularly change a wear item.
    My dealer does a fair amount of volume given the area, and I keep inquiring about failed CX5 transmissions. The only 1 I've heard about so far from this dealer was a woman they said who flooded the vehicle at the lake or something of the sort.

    I am currently at 100K, and we will just see how many licks it takes to get to the center of this lollipop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    My fluid analysis on drained atf says otherwise.

    And my local dealer says the exact opposite of yours, but then they try to sell a flush which can't be done on these. Long story short, most dealers don't know jack and either tow the company line of "lifetime" fluid, or they say change fluid is necessary but then they sell you a service that can't be done lol. Very few good, honest dealers it seems.

    Go with common sense. Mazda also refused to define what "lifetime" means in years or miles when I reached out to them, so if you plan to own your CX-5 forever like me, makes sense to regularly change a wear item.
    I agree with your policy on regularly changing with a wear item. Haven't owned an automatic since '90 so need put these things back on the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    So here's a question.

    I did my first drain/fill sessions around 71k, which admittedly I should have done sooner, but oh well. I was thinking maybe 30-40k around 100-110k miles, but wasn't sure. What do you think a good next mileage interval would be? Would it also make sense to just go ahead and drop the pan and change the filter too by that point and mess with this RTV or whatever?
    I believe you can do next drain-and-fill at 50K-mile interval like ruthrj suggested from your driving style with no towing. I wouldn't worry too much to replace the ATF filter cartridge if you really don't want to mess with the RTV for pan gasket. After all the filter cartridge is designed for "lifetime", and chances are the filter will never get clogged with its large size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthrj View Post
    Sorry if it*s been shared before but I think this cat has the right idea: https://youtu.be/RuNNqh8-jkw
    Watched many videos from this Scotty Kilmer guy and he's an old-fashioned and experienced mechanic. People who believe the "lifetime" ATF should watch this video including Unobtanium:

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBMongoos View Post
    Interesting. Last time in (something very minor) the service manager said to not change the tranny fluid that it was life time. Doing so was not a good thing.
    My Mazda dealer has always been suggesting to do drain-and-fill on ATF, although many customers refuse to do so due to it's not on Mazda's official maintenance schedule.

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    I'm not a fan of Scotty Kilmer. He seems a bit haphazard, and I saw a couple of videos he did, one on the CX-5, where he was spreading around some blatantly false information.

    That said, I do agree that "lifetime" fluid is a bit of a farce. Lifetime to a car manufacturer is probably just the extent of the powertrain warranty. Lifetime to me is when the damn wheels fall off and the car has served me well for many years and hopefully at least 200k miles. I got 300k out of my last vehicle which was a Jeep GC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    I'm not a fan of Scotty Kilmer. He seems a bit haphazard, and I saw a couple of videos he did, one on the CX-5, where he was spreading around some blatantly false information.
    Yeah I can understand some people may not like this good old Texan Scotty and he trashed Mazda's because he has seen too many transmission issues.

    Here's another and better video with actual parted transmission to show you why you need to do ATF change and why some people such as Unobtanium experienced transmission failure after the ATF change in detail:


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    Quote Originally Posted by yrwei52 View Post
    Yeah I can understand some people may not like this good old Texan Scotty and he trashed Mazda's because he has seen too many transmission issues.

    Here's another and better video with actual parted transmission to show you why you need to do ATF change and why some people such as Unobtanium experienced transmission failure after the ATF change in detail:

    Yeah but it was misleading. Look up his CX-5 video. He explains how someone bought a "used one with a turbo for like $2k" and how it was broken and therefore can't trust this Skyactiv technology.

    Which is completely misleading because at the time there was no turbo CX-5, I certainly don't think you are picking up any CX-5 for $2k, and the Mazdas with the turbo engines with problems were all pre-Skyactiv, minus the CX-9 of course, but I don't think you are finding a Skyactiv era CX-9 for $2k. So he may be correct, and the story is correct, but he made it sound like it was a Skyactiv Mazda in his story, when there's no way.
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    Amusing column from Ezra Dyer about changing trans fluid in the December Car and Driver here. Anyone who works on their car can relate. Even tho he's talking about a stick.

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