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    Another HID morimoto install. CX5 sport

    I wanted HID, never did a mod like this because I usually had it OEM. The kit from the retrofit source came in nice packaging very top notch, good wrapping, good packing, and easy instructions. I received what I expected to receive, shipping was quick.

    Obseravations..the beam pattern is so so, it has nothing to do with the kit, but more to do with our halogen projectors. There's some bleeding above the cutoff, not enough to blind cars in front of me, but it does make it look a little odd while driving. The color is great, brightness is much improved from standard halogens and is WHITE not blue. I was very worried about blinding oncoming cars so I had someone drive in front of me on a road at various distances to check for blinding..he said it was fine and wasn't seeing anything in the rear view or side mirrors even though I saw faint halos on the back seats.

    1) Install is easy, just take your time. It took me an hour, but mostly because I did this in the cold and dark. Most of the time was spent looking for mounting locations. I'm very visual and there just weren't enough pictures for me to follow. I hope this may help someone attempting this.

    2) I saw several installs on this site where people drilled into the frame to install the relay. This isn't necessary as a clean install is possible using the two supplied screws and NO additional materials for fixing equipment to the frame.

    3) Rubber electrical tape was taped on the back of ballasts and brackets where they would rest on top of the painted car frame to prevent paint scratching and water perforation/corrosion. Wherever these foreign parts met I added this barrier.

    4) Brackets for ballasts are bendable very easily, don't be afraid to bend them into place. Don't bend too many times because I feel like it would break. If you do a lot of bending I suggest wrapping the metal to protect from corrosion. I didn't do this for a bracket and on the next day it was coated with rust at the bend points.

    5) Conclusion, morimoto kit is excellent. The road is brighter at night, the look is cooler, the kit is cheap compared to OEM. The not so good, bleed through because it's a halogen projector. But it's definitely not bad like a reflector, so don't worry about blinding women who don't check their rear view mirror anyway. (JK)



    The kit I got is from The Retrofit Source

    http://www.theretrofitsource.com/hid...l#.VF7i4zTF-So

    Configuration was h11 style, 3fiveDSP, h11 relay, xb35 5500k (white not blue)

    My pictures generally go step by step in the order I did this.
























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    Looks great

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    I did this to my CX-5 and loved the difference. Now I'm getting ready to do a bi-xenon retrofit in place of the factory projector. another projector in the high beam location and halos on both. will post pics when i get it done.

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    I just placed an order for the clear lenses, since we already have projectors this shouldn't be too hard. Bake old light, scrape the old gasket material out, pop out old lens, swap with new and replace the butyl gasket..considering angels for the drl+low beams. Not so sure about getting projectors for the high beams, I don't really know if there will be any added functional value in that..Lens for low beams will make HID's have a sharp correct cut off without light bleed...considering doing a write up on this with pictures.

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    You are sure, that the lens will do all that? I would think, that a new HID projector housing is needed, too no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tibimakai View Post
    You are sure, that the lens will do all that? I would think, that a new HID projector housing is needed, too no?
    Quote Originally Posted by eclypsecl View Post
    I just placed an order for the clear lenses, since we already have projectors this shouldn't be too hard. Bake old light, scrape the old gasket material out, pop out old lens, swap with new and replace the butyl gasket..considering angels for the drl+low beams. Not so sure about getting projectors for the high beams, I don't really know if there will be any added functional value in that..Lens for low beams will make HID's have a sharp correct cut off without light bleed...considering doing a write up on this with pictures.
    You're going to need more than just the lens for that... The bowl and cut off shield is completely different and swapping the lens will do little to nothing to correct the halogen housing and produce true HID projector field of light.

    You might as well retrofit a new projector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eclypsecl View Post
    I just placed an order for the clear lenses, since we already have projectors this shouldn't be too hard. Bake old light, scrape the old gasket material out, pop out old lens, swap with new and replace the butyl gasket..considering angels for the drl+low beams. Not so sure about getting projectors for the high beams, I don't really know if there will be any added functional value in that..Lens for low beams will make HID's have a sharp correct cut off without light bleed...considering doing a write up on this with pictures.
    You probably would need the housing also.. The lens help a bit, but not that great. If you're baking open the headlight, might as well just do a complete retro
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    Completely agree with all here. Only changing the lens will do very little to prevent light blead IMHO. The projector bowl and cut-off shield are waaay more important. I am also surprised that you find your light patern so-so. I actually find it very good (see pictures in my review).
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    Quote Originally Posted by vroom View Post
    Completely agree with all here. Only changing the lens will do very little to prevent light blead IMHO. The projector bowl and cut-off shield are waaay more important. I am also surprised that you find your light patern so-so. I actually find it very good (see pictures in my review).
    I'm going to get the projectors as suggested. Since I'm going from a projector and not a reflector I thought that although it won't be fully perfect, at least the cut off will be sharper with better optics. My beam pattern is similar to yours but I dont like those hot spots or light bleed, the output is great, but I'm seeing light above the cut off.

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    Those are there, even with the standard bulbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eclypsecl View Post
    My beam pattern is similar to yours but I dont like those hot spots or light bleed, the output is great, but I'm seeing light above the cut off.
    Light needs to be concentrated near the top of the beam pattern since you want the light to be projected into the distance, hence the hot spots. A lack of hot spots indicates that too much light is thrown right in front of the car where it is not useful and may lead to a dangerous loss in night vision. The shape and widht of these hot spots may be slightly different between HID and Halogen though.

    It's actually been shown that cutoffs that are too sharp are distracting to the driver, as it constantly looks like a moving object in your periferal vision. Too little bleed above will also make the road signes more difficult to read, so you do need a little bit...

    In any case, keep us informed with before/after pictures and your impressions, I'm still very curious as to how it will turn out (even if I would never have the balls to bake my lights!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by eclypsecl View Post
    I wanted HID, never did a mod like this because I usually had it OEM. The kit from the retrofit source came in nice packaging very top notch, good wrapping, good packing, and easy instructions. I received what I expected to receive, shipping was quick.

    Obseravations..the beam pattern is so so, it has nothing to do with the kit, but more to do with our halogen projectors. There's some bleeding above the cutoff, not enough to blind cars in front of me, but it does make it look a little odd while driving. The color is great, brightness is much improved from standard halogens and is WHITE not blue. I was very worried about blinding oncoming cars so I had someone drive in front of me on a road at various distances to check for blinding..he said it was fine and wasn't seeing anything in the rear view or side mirrors even though I saw faint halos on the back seats.

    1) Install is easy, just take your time. It took me an hour, but mostly because I did this in the cold and dark. Most of the time was spent looking for mounting locations. I'm very visual and there just weren't enough pictures for me to follow. I hope this may help someone attempting this.

    2) I saw several installs on this site where people drilled into the frame to install the relay. This isn't necessary as a clean install is possible using the two supplied screws and NO additional materials for fixing equipment to the frame.

    3) Rubber electrical tape was taped on the back of ballasts and brackets where they would rest on top of the painted car frame to prevent paint scratching and water perforation/corrosion. Wherever these foreign parts met I added this barrier.

    4) Brackets for ballasts are bendable very easily, don't be afraid to bend them into place. Don't bend too many times because I feel like it would break. If you do a lot of bending I suggest wrapping the metal to protect from corrosion. I didn't do this for a bracket and on the next day it was coated with rust at the bend points.

    5) Conclusion, morimoto kit is excellent. The road is brighter at night, the look is cooler, the kit is cheap compared to OEM. The not so good, bleed through because it's a halogen projector. But it's definitely not bad like a reflector, so don't worry about blinding women who don't check their rear view mirror anyway. (JK)



    The kit I got is from The Retrofit Source

    http://www.theretrofitsource.com/hid...l#.VF7i4zTF-So

    Configuration was h11 style, 3fiveDSP, h11 relay, xb35 5500k (white not blue)

    My pictures generally go step by step in the order I did this.
























    Hi, what size of scews for the hole? I can't find the size in Walmart , they are too small or too big

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    Most likely, they are metric and Walmart does not carry them. Try Home Depot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hek8560 View Post
    Hi, what size of scews for the hole? I can't find the size in Walmart , they are too small or too big

    Did you ever find out what size of screws? The OP said that screws came with the kit...however no screws came with mine. So I'm left trying to figure out what size I need to fit into the holes he used. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Does yours kit light up both side when you turn on the car for the first time after the car is off for some time? I have a different ballast when I got my kit year and a half ago so the bracket they gave me was not the same. Look like you got the older style ballast like vroom.

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