Pioneer AVH-4000 NEX Install

Does anyone have experience with the Maestro iDataLink wiring harness? The Pioneer and Kenwood Android Auto head units have a dedicated port for it for Mazda's steering wheel controls.
I wonder if it's better than the PAC units.
I'm almost about to pull the trigger on the Kenwood DDX9702S with all the included stuff Crutchfield sells.

Edit: Hmm after seeing that the Pioneer 4100 has an SD card slot and 2 USB ports and the Kenwood has no SD card slot and only 1 USB.. I may get the Pioneer.
Pioneer also has firmware updates, not sure about the Kenwood.
Also more people have the Pioneer so can get more help in installation.

Edit 2: Hmm the Kenwood can do full phone screen mirroring and control via the screen, the Pioneer can't.
 
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FYI, the free Crutchfield "mastersheet" is utter s***. It just shows how to remove stock radio and speakers.
I thought it would show specific wiring diagrams for the PAC and Receiver and Car.
At least I didn't lose any money by buying from Crutchfield, since the Kenwood DDX9902S I bought is new and no one has it for less.
 
I have the DNN991HD, which is a nice unit(purchased refurb from Ebay for $752), has firmware updates and Garmin nav.
It's an OK unit, but it is slow to start up(1-2 blocks driving, until you get sound out of it). If you can deal with that, then it is a great unit.
Screen, is like a glass surface, it's not mate. Finger marks, are all over the screen.
$700 for a DVD unit, it's to expensive in my opinion.
If I would have to buy another one, most likely I would go, with the DNX891HD, or similar.
 
I have a problem with my installation. Everything works well except all my phone button. I've try to reprogram the pac but when I press the buttons, the led is not flashing. Someone had this issue?
 
I just bought the PAC RP4-MZ11 and all the speaker output cables are RCA now!
 
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First of all, thank you very much for great information here, especially to jlcpremier.

I've got a CX5 with a bose amp and I've successfully installed an aftermarket HU with the RP4-MZ11 interface. The manual of the RP4 mentions that the bose amp can be controlled with an LCD interface menu. How can I access that on the CX5?
 
jlcpremier, I just wanted to say thank you for this thread. I was successfully able to install my 4100NEX and backup camera adapter this past week and am loving it. Thanks!!
 
Thank you everyone for the great tips/installation here! The pioneer 4100nex works great in my Mazda 6 except for the phone calls. I can hear them perfectly but the other person hears their own echo and its very frustrating to have a conversation when they don't want to talk. I tried placing the microphone everywhere in the car, changing out the microphone with another, turning down the mic sensitivity, turning down the Bluetooth volume before syncing the phone and using another phone. PLEASE if anyone have any other input, I would appreciate it. Thank you.
 
I am hoping to install my 5100NEX unit on Saturday, but I want to double check a couple of things:

1) Do I connect the blue wire from the antenna adapter to the blue/white wire labled "System Remote Control" on the pioneer harness?
2) On the "Interconnect" excel workbook it doesn't have arrows signifying connect the Blue/White (amp turn on) and the same "system remote control" wire. Does that mean it doesn't get connected. Maybe a better question is "what do I do with the "system remote control" wire.
3)I'm a little confused about what I do with the light green wire. Do I just splice it into my ground wires?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
 
jlcpremier, thank you for this post, It's excellent, and all the people who make it possible: RedBaron, Mentalcase, danieljw, and lhendricks92
I installed my new 4100NEX, but for now without the PAC RP4-MZ11. I have the Bose system.
As mentioned by fabry1979 previously, I have noise, even with volume to 0.

This could be related with sound settings, or some wrong connection?

thanks in advance!
 
First off, I want to say a big thanks to RedBaron, Mentalcase, danieljw, and lhendricks92 for helping me prep for my own aftermarket install.

I figured I would take all the hours of research i did and looking at various threads on here and post what I've learned to help anyone looking to install a Pioneer AVH or AVIC unit in their CX-5, though a lot of this information would work fine for other brands as well.

First the good news. With the exception of a bit of soldering and MacGyver'ing that you have to do for the backup cam. It is relatively easy to replace your head unit with an aftermarket one. I have a Grand Touring with Tech, so for the purpose of my install, I have the NAV and Bose.

How much is this going to cost and what do you need?: So to complete this install you are going to need the following...

Pioneer AVH-4000 NEX (or other radio): Price depends on where you buy. Normally I would purchase this stuff through Crutchfield, since they have amazing support and include the dash kit, antenna adapter and they will give you half off the special wiring harness you need. However, after speaking with Crutchfield, I realized that they currently do not have the "master sheets" for the CX-5, and that purchasing at full retail price from them plus adding the extended warranty is more than just buying the unit new off eBay, and putting a Squaretrade warranty on it. The Crutchfield rep even told me that Squaretrade was better than just counting on the manufacturer warranty. If you do decide to purchase through eBay or another online source, note that in order for the manufacturer warranty to be valid, you MUST purchase the unit through an authorized seller. If you don't you will have absolutely no warranty, unless you purchase the Squaretrade 3 year warranty. Here's a breakdown of the items I purchased...

Pioneer AVH-4000 NEX: $570 on eBay with $85 3 year squaretrade warranty
Metra 95-7522B Double DIN dask kit: $18 on eBay
Metra 40-hd10 Antenna adpater (says honda but works for CX-5): $6 on eBay
PAC RP4-MZ11 Wiring Harness and SWC Module: $91 on eBay
(2) Kicker KISL Speaker wire to RCA adapters: $20 on eBay

Total cost buying through eBay: $790 vs buying through Crutchfield: $885. It will save you roughly $100

Other optional items:
Parking brake bypass: $15 on eBay
Pioneer CD-MC20 (special microphone used to auto-eq): $18 on eBay

In order to integrate the backup cam, you will also need these items which are explained more in the backup cam section below:
12V to 6V DC step down adapter: $7 on Amazon
Dual row PC header pins: price varies depending on quantity purchased. Mine were $7 on Amazon

To replace the USB/AUX adapter wires you will need:
Apple Lighting AV Adapter: $35 or so on eBay (needed if you want to use full functionality of AppRadio mode)
10 foot Lighting cable for iPhone 5+: $8 on Amazon
10 foot HDMI cable for iPhone 5+: $8 on Amazon

Total cost for my install: $888

I haven't completed my install yet, so I will be updating this as I go along, but the first step I did was run the bluetooth mic from the overhead console across the headliner and down the A pillar under the steering wheel.

Removing overhead console and removing factory bluetooth mic: Open the sunglass holder, and remove the 2 screws. Carefully pull down and back to release a clip holding the overhead console in place. Be sure to keep the console level as there are washers on the top that can easily fall out and get lost. Disconnect the plugs to the map lights, bluetooth microphone, and sunroof (if you have it). There are 3 clips holding the bluetooth mic in place. That part was a little tricky to get all 3 unlatched but once you do the mic will just slide out.

Installing Pioneer mic: I used the adhesive that came with the mic and attached it to the side. You may want to consider something a little stronger, but it's easy to remove the console so if the tape gives out down the road I can look into another option then.

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And here's how the whole console looks

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To run the wire, I fed the plug through the headliner. Stick your hand up into the space where the overhead console was and push towards the windshield until you hit the side of the headliner. There is an opening at the base, that you can stick the plug through. Next you want to LOOSTEN the A pillar (trim covering the side going up the left side of the windshield) to do this, grab toward the top of the A pillar, and give it a tug to unclip a couple clips securing it. You will not be able to remove the entire thing as it has a cable securing it. This picture shows about how much space you can work with, and it's more than enough

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And here is looking down the side of the pillar

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If you look closely you can see a black wire above my hand. That's the mic cable. I should also add you will need something to fish the wire through this. I recommend fish tape, but a clothes hanger should work as well. Next you need to get the wire under the steering wheel. Attach the plug to the fish tape or hanger with electrical tape and stick it down to the right as close as you can get to the bottom of the A pillar. With any luck you should be able to look up under the steering wheel and see the wire. It may take a few tries before the wire finds it's way in there. Once you have the wire under the steering wheel, running it to the radio is easy.

Removing factory radio: Before you remove the radio. Make sure you have all the vehicle settings the way you want (Door Locks, Wipers, Lights, etc) You WILL NOT be able to change these after you pull out the radio, unless you put the factory radio back in, or go to a dealer. Also be sure to unpair any bluetooth devices you have with your radio. The bluetooth module will still be active and will attempt to pair with your device if you don't remove it from the devices list on the radio

That being said, start by removing the long decorative panel that stretches from under the radio to the far right vent. There are a number of clips holding it in. Using a tape wrapped screwdriver or pry tool, gently apply pressure outward to release the clips. Make sure you do this gently or you may break off the plastic. Once you have released all the clips simply pull the decorative panel out. There is a connector attached to the hazard button that you will have to disconnect if you wish to remove the panel entirely.
Next remove the trim ring around the radio by grabbing at the bottom and gently pulling outward to release clips securing the ring in place. Again take caution not to damage the plastic.

I haven't removed my radio just yet as I'm waiting for the dash kit to arrive but here's how these 2 pieces look loose

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There are 2 screws and a bolt holding the radio in. The 2 screws are on the left and right sides, and the 10mm hex bolt is on the bottom. Once removed the radio will slide out

USB/AUX: If you're worried about losing the USB and AUX inputs in the center console. Have no fear, it's a relatively easy process to remove the factory connector and run new wires. First thing you need to do is remove the trim cover for the USB and AUX. On the front inside wall of the console above the USB/AUX you will feel a cutout. Grab it and pull back. you will need to pull it down at an angle to allow the feet to pop out. Should look like this

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With the panel pulled down, disconnect the 12V accessory connector, and the USB/AUX connector. The panel will come out. The USB/AUX module has 2 clips on each side securing it to the trim. Push them in and the module will come loose from the trim. For my install, I'm just using the hole left to run the wires through. Just be careful that you don't accidentally drop them back in. This is how it looks after

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Next you need to remove the front console box. This is simply the padded recess under the A/C controls. Using a tape wrapped screwdriver or pry tool, pry up the back corner (closest to shifter) and work your way across until the box comes loose. It will expose an open cavity of the car where the wires can be fished from the center console. Looks like this

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Once the radio is removed, you can route the wires up to the radio cavity. The easiest way is to remove the glove box and the small piece of trim next to the front console. From there you should be able to reach in and grab the cables. Route them along side the bluettoth module then up and into the radio cavity.

For my install purposes I'm running a Lightning and HDMI cable. If you have an iPhone 5 or up you need both plus an Apple Lightning AV Adapter to use AppRadio mode to it's full extent to mirror certain apps on the NEX radio

Wiring and Factory Harness: Because of the steering wheel controls, and the way it's wired with the Bluetooth, you need a pretty advanced wiring harness for this car. It seems everyone, myself included recommends the PAC RP4-MZ11 Harness with steering wheel control module.

IMPORTANT: If you have a Bose system in your CX-5, you have to wire RCAs to the RP4 harness as the Bose amp is designed to take low level input, and the wires from the Pioneer harness would be feeding it high level input. Make sure to connect the RCAs to the RP4 speaker wires and not the pioneer harness.
Thanks to RedBaron for creating a handy chart displaying all the wire connections. I've modified it for use with the Pioneer receivers and have attached it below. Some important wiring to note:

Pioneer purple/white reverse wire connects to the RP4 green reverse +12V wire
For Bose: Make sure to connect the Pioneer blue/white AMP turn on wire to the blue/white RP4 Amp wire or you won't have any sound.
The RP blue wire coming out of the factory harness needs to be connected to the green/white wire coming off the RP4 module harness. This is so the Bluetooth steering wheel button will work.
You will need to splice in to the Red ACC wire, and the black ground wire to hook up a 12V to 6V DC step down adapter for the backup cam

OEM Backup cam integration This will probably be the toughest part of the install, and WILL require you do some very intricate soldering. You are going to need the following...

12V to 6V DC step down converter. $7 on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/ (commissions earned)
Dual row PC header pins $7 on Amazon or cheaper elsewhere https://www.amazon.com/dp/ (commissions earned)
A standard RCA Video cable you don't mind destroying. Cut the wire and strip back. The center wire is positive, and the outer wire ring is negative.

Cut the header down to 3 rows (6 pins total). You then need to remove the middle pins. You solder the RCA positive and negative along with the red ACC and ground wires to the header. Make sure that you attach the wires so they match this order. Thanks to RedBaron for posting this picture.

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Heat shrink to insulate the wires and you've created your own connector. The backup cam should work now. The connector has 4 larger holes above the smaller ones. Make sure you plug the pins into the smaller holes or you won't get a picture.


I will post more pictures as I continue the install, but for now I hope this helps those of you out there wondering whether or not to make the jump to aftermarket. Most importantly, this is an install that most of you can do, but if you don't feel comfortable doing all this then I would recommend you have it professionally done. I've installed a handful of radios and I was a little unsure about tackling this, but after the research and seeing how easy it really is, at least to run the wires, I think most of you should be fine.

Here's how it looks installed. I have the theme set to give it a OEM look

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So I tried to take the dive today and see about bypassing the bose amp. I really don't think the "interconnects" excel file is correct for the bose system. The wire colors and plug don't seem to match what the bose amp has.
 
I also want to thank the OP and others who contributed to this thread. Even though my '16 Sport uses a totally different harness and had other challenges, there is a lot of good info in this thread that I referenced for my install. And my BT mic works well in the OEM location, even Google voice dialing.
 
Have you had any problems with the front left speaker not working. I am in the middle of installing a new alpine unit and I cant get the front left to work it is really weird I have tried all basic troubleshooting methods but still nothing. I know the unit is good and i tested the speakers which all work except the front left.
 
I am looking to finally replace the headunit on my 2015 CX5 and narrowing the choice down to a pioneer 8200 NEX. I am pricing out the accessories I need and since the IPOD feature is the one thing frustrating me (it's not working anymore with the factory HU) I want something that will work very well with it. I was going to get the Metra AX-MAZUSB cable to keep the OEM USB in the center console where I keep my IPOD but read bad reviews saying it doesn't work. What have you used for USB? I am going to purchase the stereo at best buy (price match Amazon) and pay $99 to have it installed so I want to save as much money as possible but also have it done right. I am hoping technology has improved enough so the factory camera can easily hook up to the new stereo.
 
I am looking to finally replace the headunit on my 2015 CX5 and narrowing the choice down to a pioneer 8200 NEX. I am pricing out the accessories I need and since the IPOD feature is the one thing frustrating me (it's not working anymore with the factory HU) I want something that will work very well with it. I was going to get the Metra AX-MAZUSB cable to keep the OEM USB in the center console where I keep my IPOD but read bad reviews saying it doesn't work. What have you used for USB? I am going to purchase the stereo at best buy (price match Amazon) and pay $99 to have it installed so I want to save as much money as possible but also have it done right. I am hoping technology has improved enough so the factory camera can easily hook up to the new stereo.

I have 2 thoughts 1 Have you done anything to address why the factory head unit is not working with your Ipod? If you are using the factory USB port for music I know I've read that they are only compatible with 8GB or smaller drive. Bigger than 8GB and it will eventually fry. I don't know why.

My second thought is don't skimp on installation. Make sure the installer is experienced and willing to investigate whatever it takes to get all the details right. As far as the camera goes I would assume a 2015 CX-5 has the same camera as the 2014 model. Thankfully there are those involved in this thread who have shared knowledge and instruction how to drop the 12 volts to the 6 volts required for the factory camera. You could always wait for the 2017 model to come down in price and use the camera that comes with it. (Refering to the 8201 NEX here) I personally love the pioneer units with auto eq and auto time alignment. It's well worth the cost of the microphone for how it helps the sound quality. When I bought a pioneer for my Jeep years ago the microphone was included. I have chosen to keep my Bose unit at least for the time being since I have the Tomtom navigation and there are various vehicle settings accessible through the touch display.
 
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I had best buy do my install and it's ok but I am not thrilled with the placement of the pucks (on the dash right next to the center speaker and the microphone (in the instrument cluster). They charged me $206 which is more than I thought but it was an extra charge for Sirius install and for the backup camera, which he did not want to do and was going to have me buy a new camera instead if it was going to be too much work. I bought all the parts mentioned here but he did not use all of them and intially did not want to see the instructions (with pictures) I printed out but at the end admitted he did read and use them and they were the same he saw somewhere else. He said it was easier than he expected but certaintly did not make me feel confident.

I finally got android auto to work by switching to the white cable that came with my samsung S7 but I do not have voice commands if I am not using android auto. I was hoping I could use it to play a song or artist with my IPOD or use the nav to navtigate with voice commands like my garmin and I don't see a way for text messages to be read outloud using the bluetooth connection. Am I missing something or is a setting not correct?

I bought the Pac harness mentioned here and the Voice button works when connected to android auto but not when using just the headunit.
 
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