...Seriously, I could count on my fingers all the CX-5 transmission failures we've heard about and they all failed early due to a manufacturing defect. The engine/transmission is one of the best things about the CX-5 whether you're talking 2.0L g or 2.5L g.
i was thinking of using a pump to pull fluid out of the fill hole anyone know if i would get the same amount out as pulling the drain plug ? looking at buying this Mityvac 7201 Fluid Evacuator Plus thanks all
I'm sure there will be a lot of different opini9ns on this, and they are welcome...
Rather than pumping out the fluid, anyone have thoughts for doing a double drain with say 1000 miles between each...at least for first drain refill? Might be overkill, but one can certainly argue that theis one time double drain should certainly do a more thorough clearing of the break in particles in the tranny, and torque converter.
IMO... if going to the trouble to change you should drain. A more complete drain, better extraction of particulate and a chance to clean the magnet are just a few reasons...
Did first ATf drain/fill at dealership at 37k miles. Now I'm at nearly 66k miles but this time I want to DIY.
Questions I have are:
- Anyone know the part number for the AT plug washer? Just want to double check in case dealership gives me wrong one.
- Unike the engine oil pan plug being situated at an ideal angle when lifted via ramps, the AT pan plug appears to be flat on the bottom. Would ramps be ok or should I lift all 4 corners leveled?
- I believe Chris advised the tranny system contains 5 quarts total with aprox 3.5 draining out w/o dropping pan. I'm assuming purchasing 4 (1-quart) bottles is sufficient for this project?
Thanks guys.
For AT drain plug washer:Did first ATf drain/fill at dealership at 37k miles. Now I'm at nearly 66k miles but this time I want to DIY.
Questions I have are:
- Anyone know the part number for the AT plug washer? Just want to double check in case dealership gives me wrong one.
- Unike the engine oil pan plug being situated at an ideal angle when lifted via ramps, the AT pan plug appears to be flat on the bottom. Would ramps be ok or should I lift all 4 corners leveled?
- I believe Chris advised the tranny system contains 5 quarts total with aprox 3.5 draining out w/o dropping pan. I'm assuming purchasing 4 (1-quart) bottles is sufficient for this project?
Thanks guys.
A drain and fill of approx. 5.1 US qt, per service manual is pretty much the only service regarding the ATF.
3 quarts and about ~24 oz, still have a little bit left on the 4th bottle.So did you pour in 4 quarts of fresh Mazda Type FZ ATF for the drain-and-fill?
I'd just raise the front a bit with both front tires on 2-layer 2X10 wood board used for my oil change. I can then raise the rear a bit with floor jack to make the vehicle level while draining. You can do the same even with your oil change ramps. According to owner's manual and service manual, total capacity of automatic transaxle fluid is 8.2 US quarts, not 5 quarts! So drain-and-fill method can only replace a little less than half of the old ATF anyway. I wouldn't worry too much about keeping the CX-5 level during ATF draining. Now are you going to be doing drain-and-fill 2~3 times for this ATF change?Jacked up slightly on both side (making it level) to remove the panel and when draining.runtohell121 : Just curious if you jacked up your CX-5 to change fluid or just changed on level ground.
For AT drain plug washer:
[3] Trans pan gasket. 2.0 LITER, AUTO TRANS
Part Number: 995641400
MSRP Core Online Price
$1.17 $0.00 $0.84
Looks like transmission pan drain plug and aluminum washer are exactly the same as engine oil pan drain plug and aluminum washer. They carry the same part numbers - FS5021249 for plug. So 8mm Allen hex key or bit is needed like engine oil change.
Some posts from Change automatic transmission fluid? may have answered your questions:
I'd just raise the front a bit with both front tires on 2-layer 2X10 wood board used for my oil change. I can then raise the rear a bit with floor jack to make the vehicle level while draining. You can do the same even with your oil change ramps. According to owner's manual and service manual, total capacity of automatic transaxle fluid is 8.2 US quarts, not 5 quarts! So drain-and-fill method can only replace a little less than half of the old ATF anyway. I wouldn't worry too much about keeping the CX-5 level during ATF draining. Now are you going to be doing drain-and-fill 2~3 times for this ATF change?
This's my favorite video for changing ATF and filter on a CX-5 by removing the fluid pan:⋯ Some useful general info regarding ATF drain fill and flushes here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o690DovjDAc
This's my favorite video for changing ATF and filter on a CX-5 by removing the fluid pan:
This Japanese CX-5 has only 13,121 km / 8,153 miles. This guy put 5 magnetics outside the fluid pan in addition to one stock magnet sitting inside. As you can see there're lots of metal shavings attached to those magnet areas once the fluid pan got removed! This makes me having an urge to remove and clean the pan on my CX-5 right away! I also noticed that the threaded ATF drain hole is reinforced to accept the threaded bolt of the drain plug. Hence the inside of drain hole is not flush with the pan and that tiny "wall" will make some ATF left in the pan even if you keep the vehicle level. Also the part number for Mazda ATF filter is FZ01-21-500 and the funny thing is the stock filter he removed is made in USA!
This guy used "ThreeBond 1207C Liquid Gasket Reddish Brown" to form the new gasket for the fluid pan. And the spec sheet he used indicates:
SkyActiv-Drive automatic transmission has 4 models:
FW6A-EL for SkyActiv-G FWD and FW6AX-EL for SkyActiv-G AWD.
- Total ATF capacity is 7.8L / 8.24 US quarts.
- Drain-and-fill estimate including filter replacement: 3.5~4.9L / 3.7~5.18 US Quarts.
GW6A-EL for SkyActiv-D FWD and GW6AX-EL for SkyActiv-D AWD.
- Total ATF capacity is 8.0L / 8.45 US quarts.
- Drain-and-fill estimate including filter replacement: 3.5~4.9L / 3.7~5.18 US Quarts.
The guy refilled with 4.2L / 4,200 cc / 4.44 US Quarts Mazda Genuine ATF FZ during the first drain-and-fill with pan removal and filter replacement. The second simple drain-and-fill he used 3.57L / 3.77 US Quarts fresh ATF FZ. He claimed by doing this drain-and-fill diluting method twice with filter change at first drain, at least 70% of old ATF would get replaced. He also suggested ATF does need to be changed and the change should be made in a clean and dry environment. Finally, he compared ATF after first drain-and-fill and second drain-and-fill, to fresh ATF. You'll be the judge if we need to change the ATF or not!
Notice that how the guy simply drove up to 4 pieces of 6X6 wood to raise the height of the CX-5 easily and safely in level!
Yeah, they do sell Mazda Genuine ATF FZ in large 10-liter / 2.5-gallon metal bucket container in Japan!
I'll tell you what he didn't do...check his fluid level in the trans...This's my favorite video for changing ATF and filter on a CX-5 by removing the fluid pan:
This Japanese CX-5 has only 13,121 km / 8,153 miles. This guy put 5 magnetics outside the fluid pan in addition to one stock magnet sitting inside. As you can see there're lots of metal shavings attached to those magnet areas once the fluid pan got removed! This makes me having an urge to remove and clean the pan on my CX-5 right away! I also noticed that the threaded ATF drain hole is reinforced to accept the threaded bolt of the drain plug. Hence the inside of drain hole is not flush with the pan and that tiny "wall" will make some ATF left in the pan even if you keep the vehicle level. Also the part number for Mazda ATF filter is FZ01-21-500 and the funny thing is the stock filter he removed is made in USA!
This guy used "ThreeBond 1207C Liquid Gasket Reddish Brown" to form the new gasket for the fluid pan. And the spec sheet he used indicates:
SkyActiv-Drive automatic transmission has 4 models:
FW6A-EL for SkyActiv-G FWD and FW6AX-EL for SkyActiv-G AWD.
- Total ATF capacity is 7.8L / 8.24 US quarts.
- Drain-and-fill estimate including filter replacement: 3.5~4.9L / 3.7~5.18 US Quarts.
GW6A-EL for SkyActiv-D FWD and GW6AX-EL for SkyActiv-D AWD.
- Total ATF capacity is 8.0L / 8.45 US quarts.
- Drain-and-fill estimate including filter replacement: 3.5~4.9L / 3.7~5.18 US Quarts.
The guy refilled with 4.2L / 4,200 cc / 4.44 US Quarts Mazda Genuine ATF FZ during the first drain-and-fill with pan removal and filter replacement. The second simple drain-and-fill he used 3.57L / 3.77 US Quarts fresh ATF FZ. He claimed by doing this drain-and-fill diluting method twice with filter change at first drain, at least 70% of old ATF would get replaced. He also suggested ATF does need to be changed and the change should be made in a clean and dry environment. Finally, he compared ATF after first drain-and-fill and second drain-and-fill, to fresh ATF. You'll be the judge if we need to change the ATF or not!
Notice that how the guy simply drove up to 4 pieces of 6X6 wood to raise the height of the CX-5 easily and safely in level!
Yeah, they do sell Mazda Genuine ATF FZ in large 10-liter / 2.5-gallon metal bucket container in Japan!
Great point! I guess it's hard for me to "estimate" the proper ATF temperature at 50C / 122F before measuring the fluid level as I don't have an App to read ATF temperature from ECU. Putting exact amount of drained out ATF back is a risky business for Mazda's as we don't know if the ATF was underfilled from factory like many other fluids on CX-5!I'll tell you what he didn't do...check his fluid level in the trans...
6. Idle the car (or drive around the block) to heat up the oil before you take a reading. I've found that idling to get a proper reading may take a while, so give it about 10 mins. You are supposed to check it at 50 c (122f). I did this before I drained and filled and it was reading below, got hotter and it was still below (used torque pro to get atf temp from ecu); it read correctly after I had driven though (tested after a drive with the motor still on, wiped it and retook the reading). Just a head up. Add (or drain lol) atf as needed.