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    Battery suggestions?

    The recent cold weather really brings out the worst in my battery. My ’08 is still on original battery so is due for a change. I typically stick with DieHard (Sears) or EverStart (Walmart) but it’s been a LONG time since I looked into batteries so don’t know if quality or tiers have changed. The specs for both look similar BUT the DieHard has a RC, which is a nice to have but the EverStart has a heck fo a warranty program.

    I believe our cars use group 35. Anyone used a bigger battery that fits? I’m open to that as well. Appreciate any affordable yet good (asking too much?) battery recommendations!



    EverStart MAXX-35 $110
    Most powerful EverStart available
    Starting power meets or exceeds manufacturer's specifications
    Great for all-weather climates
    North 640 Cold Cranking Amps /South 550 Cold cranking Amps
    5 Year Warranty Program (3 Years Free Replacement + 2 Years Pro Rated)
    Shipping Weight (in pounds): 37.6
    Product in Inches (L x W x H): 9.6875 x 6.875 x 8.875


    DieHard Gold 35 $130
    Group Size: 35
    Height (in.): 8.9
    Length (in.): 9.8
    Item Weight (lbs.): 33.5
    Power Ratings:
    Cold Cranking Amps (CCA at 0 deg.F): 640
    Reserve Capacity (RC): 95

    Design & Construction:
    Battery Design: Lead-Acid
    Battery Grade: DieHard Gold
    Maintenance: Maintenance Free
    Positive Terminal Side: Right
    Temperate Zone: North
    Terminal Post Location: Top
    Warranties & Coverage:
    Free Replacement Warranty Term: 36 months



    Also, how much are stock batteries? Considering mine has lasted 6 years, it migth be worth it?.
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    Interesting. I went to Sears before Christmas looking at batteries and down here, there were 3 battery choices: 1, 2 & 3 year (no pro-rata) and the cheapest started at $130, going up to $250 across all groups based on store displays. $130 for a 1 year battery got me facing the other way and finding the door.
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    Google searching will get you more info, but basically all automotive LA batteries for retail sale in the US are made by only a few companies - Johnson Controls, Exide, and Delphi (in decreasing order of market share, to the best of my knowledge).

    A lot of people take this to mean that the JC battery for sale at Sears is the exact same as the one for sale at Wal-Mart - but it may or may not be. (Real helpful info, right?) JC will build whatever battery Sears tells them to - if Sears wants to spec better materials/design or better QC, JC will do it (for a price). Or maybe Sears just takes the basic JC "off the shelf" design that is on the shelves at Wal-Mart and puts a new label and price tag on it because they can (the debate about the value of the Sears name brand notwithstanding).

    I can tell you two things:
    1. Buying a battery from the OEM (dealer) will probably be more expensive than Autozone or Wal-Mart
    2. It is more expensive probably because the OEM specs a more robust design and better QC than Wal-Mart does

    That said, it is just a lead acid battery, it's a mature technology. The likelihood that you get stranded on the side of the road in two years due to battery issues is more likely that you got a defective unit from whatever brand you picked, not that "Brand Y's batteries dies 20% sooner than Brand X". Every brand has anecdotal stories of standing people due to a dead battery, personal reviews of brand X vs. brand Y give no meaningful data to me.

    IMO the price/warranty is the deciding factor since you don't have a clue what's actually inside the black plastic case. I buy cheaper non-OEM batteries and have no issues with them lasting 5+ years, and I live in a very hot area. (Batteries die in cold weather, but heat kills them). But I'm willing to take that 1 in 1,000 chance I may have to get a jump home from work on some cold evening. In my wife's car (Toyota 4runner) I use OEM, because I know (insider info) the standards that the OEM product is held to, and it is quantitatively better than what our supplier builds for retail.
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    I buy whatever is sold at Costco, and sorta fits. 3-year non-prorated batt. Group size be damned.

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    Have you looked at Odyssey Batteries?

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    Optima Batteries

    I will be going this when it's time for mine to be replaced. I already have it on my Audi A4 and so far it hasn't failed. I believe it's been more than 2 years running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
    I buy whatever is sold at Costco, and sorta fits. 3-year non-prorated batt. Group size be damned.
    Thanks for the suggestion! I have a less favorable impression of Kirkland brand but specs, warranty, and cost is all that matters. How long have they they lasted for you?

    I tend to agree with sac02 in that batterie are mature tech but there are still standards from each brand. Optimas are nice but beyond my needs or want to pay. Have heard a lot of favorable comments on Odyssey batteries. How much do they cost and worth shipping? Can I get these in stores??
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicBoy View Post
    Have you looked at Odyssey Batteries?
    jeebus. Am I googling the right thing? I'm see $280 !?...
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    Yup, not cheap but designed to last 3 times longer. I believe the CCA are substantially more.

    Just showing you other options.

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    You can get the Optima Red Top size 35 from Amazon for $140 shipped. Last twice as long as a regular battery. Some people have gotten up to 10 years out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsvinylgraphics View Post
    You can get the Optima Red Top size 35 from Amazon for $140 shipped. Last twice as long as a regular battery. Some people have gotten up to 10 years out of them.
    If you read the Amazon reviews - they say it's hard to get a warranty replacement - neither Amazon or Optima appear to honor them if bought from Amazon.

    Costco for me - no problem returns - 100 month warranty with 36 month full refund. Oem batteries don't seem to last long in the heat for me.

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    The Wal-Mart EverStart went up in price. They are still tempting b/c Wal-Mart's are everywhere but the exchange can be a hassle depending on which store front you go to. Reading BITOG and general reviews, the Costco's Kirkland is it! Costco doesn't publish their automotive batteries online so you'll need to check your local store. Varieties will vary based on your region and some carry Optima Red/Yellow/Blue too. Word is (web truth) Optima "was" a great battery -when they were made in the US. There have been lots of complaints since they moved manufacturing south of the border. Exchanges are no hassles/questions asked @ Costco BUT you must be a valid member to take advantage of their warranty!

    The specs of the Kirkland group 35 actually equals or beats the DieHard Gold (in RC by a tad).
    http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/loca...teries-can.htm



    On the other hand, now that the weather is not freezing the battery is working ok again. I think I can get another 3 season out of it.
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    I've actually had really good luck with the Duralast Gold batteries from AutoZone- good warranty, relatively good cost to buy, and they've weathered quite a bit of abusive usage in my hands... high current stereos, not being driven on for a month, freezing weather etc.

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    I just today replaced the factory Panasonic battery in my '08 with a Duralast Gold from Autozone. $140 total with tax. 3 year full replacement warranty, and 5 year prorated. I've had great success with Duralast Gold; I had one in a Jeep for over 8 years, and it was still running strong when I traded that car in last year.

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    Installed Costco Kirkland Group 34 battery. $85-9(core)+6%tax = that's cheap

    1000 CA
    800 CCA
    105 RC
    3 year replacement and I think 5 years prorated (didn't look at that).

    Here's a little interesting bit I read on the "web". Typically the RC can tell how "good" (long lasting) a battery can be as it dictates cell quality or arrangement. Higher CCA is nice but can also decrease life.


    FWIW, Kirkland group 35 is $80 ($5 less).
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