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    FYI, having visited junkyards 3 times in the past 3 weeks or so, there are lots of Probes, MX-6's, and 626's out there.

    I wish I had the time and a little better facilities since I'd love to do this mod to cut down on highway cruising noise and add another MPG or so. Going to need a clutch in the spring, so would make sense to have it all done at once.
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    Has anyone looked into suppliers for just the parts (e.g., new) such as dealer part #'s etc?
    i'm all for junkyard diving, but sometimes its nice to just get a new part handed to you.. .especially when we're talking about gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatLabGuy View Post
    Has anyone looked into suppliers for just the parts (e.g., new) such as dealer part #'s etc?
    i'm all for junkyard diving, but sometimes its nice to just get a new part handed to you.. .especially when we're talking about gears.
    I haven't looked in awhile, but you may want to see this thread:
    http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...-5th-Gear-Swap

    Also, I believe there has been a thread on Ecomodder.com, but again I don't have time right now to dig thru it.

    I do recall seeing some part #s. There was an online shop that had just the part as a turnkey kit, but last time I checked the link was no longer valid.
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    does anyone have part (mazda)numbers for the two gears required to swap into the p5 trans.i have called the dealer and they want a serial(vin) number before they will bother to look up the prices..probably easier to get the two gears new than hunt for a used trans at a wreacker..any info will help..thanks guys..and i might have a 2.0 ltr engine and 5sp manual trans for sale...thanks

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    this vin number is for a 2003 mazda protege5 yellow
    JM1BJ245931136424

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    ^^protege VIN won't work because he is looking for parts that aren't from one.

    Quote Originally Posted by lzrd View Post
    does anyone have part (mazda)numbers for the two gears required to swap into the p5 trans.i have called the dealer and they want a serial(vin) number before they will bother to look up the prices..probably easier to get the two gears new than hunt for a used trans at a wreacker..any info will help..thanks guys..and i might have a 2.0 ltr engine and 5sp manual trans for sale...thanks
    http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...-5th-Gear-Swap

    look right at the bottom of the first post, you will find the 5th gear parts no's used from a 626/mx6. a good thread with good details if you ignore the rest of the teardown procedure as the 5th gear swap can be done without removing the tranny as he states in the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hat1018 View Post
    So any of these 2.0 trannies will bolt right up? Are all of the gears taller or just fifth?
    Has anyone just swapped their tranny out for a Probe, MX6, 626 tranny for taller gears? From the small amount of research I have done I am finding out that the gearing for 3rd, 4th, and 5th are taller on some of the other trannies. I really want to try to drop the RPM's at highway speeds (or more) and want to make a change as easy as possible. If another G series trans will bolt up that would be ideal.

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    Just switching out the 5th gear would be easier if all you're looking to do is get a taller 5th gear...it can be done without even pulling the tranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00bluees View Post
    ^^protege VIN won't work because he is looking for parts that aren't from one.



    http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...-5th-Gear-Swap

    look right at the bottom of the first post, you will find the 5th gear parts no's used from a 626/mx6. a good thread with good details if you ignore the rest of the teardown procedure as the 5th gear swap can be done without removing the tranny as he states in the thread.
    I'm confused. That's a good thread, but it refers to the second, thicker layer of gears in the end housing as fifth. What is the function of the outermost pair of gears under the end cap, since reverse is in the main case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MazdaSpeeder View Post
    Just switching out the 5th gear would be easier if all you're looking to do is get a taller 5th gear...it can be done without even pulling the tranny.
    Actually I wouldn't mind having taller 3rd, 4th, and 5th gears. It would make for less shifting during in town driving. If I get a complete tranny I could just swap it, right?
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    I personally wouldn't want taller 3rd and 4th gears...I never cruise in those gears. They are gears I use when I am getting up to speed, and making them taller is going to hamper acceleration. My car (and our mods are surely different so this may not be the case for you) pulls really nicely in 3rd and 4th, and I wouldn't want to change that for maybe 1/2 mpg. Unless you spend an inordinate amount of time in 3rd and 4th, your fuel savings will be minimal.

    I don't know about transmission compatibility (there's some stuff listed earlier in this thread). I haven't ever heard that some of the other transmissions have taller 3rd and 4th gears, but I haven't done the research either.
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    I was poking around on protegefaq.net. I only compared some numbers and I am not totaly sure of what I am looking at/for, so I am only speculating.
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    that's fith gear? lol...
    i always thought that was something else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hat1018 View Post
    Has anyone just swapped their tranny out for a Probe, MX6, 626 tranny for taller gears? From the small amount of research I have done I am finding out that the gearing for 3rd, 4th, and 5th are taller on some of the other trannies. I really want to try to drop the RPM's at highway speeds (or more) and want to make a change as easy as possible. If another G series trans will bolt up that would be ideal.
    Not in here a lot anymore, but just saw this. Look up the Malaysian guy with the turbocharged Ford Tierra. KasmanK, I think was his handle. They only sold the FS-DE there with the four-speed automatic, so when he turbocharged his car, he swapped the box out completely for a 626 box. Worked just fine for him. Gives you the longer fifth and a longer final drive, so all gears are effectively longer.

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