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    ViCS recall work done, but now having problems

    I have documentation that Recall 3005C - Intake Manifold Shutter Valve work had been completed on 6/22/2006, but a few weeks ago I replaced plug #4 due to "misfire", it was of course damaged. I did a compression check after that and it was fine so I kept driving it.

    A week later, I was driving and I heard something in the engine and it began to bog down, so I pulled over and turned it off and got a tow home. Got home and did a compression test and I only have 90psi in cylinder #2.

    Any suggestions as to what I should do? It is now 36 months and 36k miles after the original recall work was performed, and the dealer said that there is only a 12month/12k mile warranty on recall work.

    Should I take apart the intake to prove that at least 2 of the ViCS screws are missing?

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    I would but I would've after done it the the first time with cyl 4............

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    At that point I didn't know about the ViCS screws. I only went looking after I got the noise in the engine.

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    intake removed

    So it looks like I was missing at least one screw from every butterfly and was missing both from #4. The plate was just lying in the lower intake along with one of the screws. But there is no locktite on any of the screws. So did the dealer just say they perfromed the recall work and not really do the work?



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    Here are at least 2 screws in the precat. It might be 3.


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    Keep all that & take it with you. Print these pics too.

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    Found the rest of my screws.

    I found the rest of my screws...



    Now the question is:

    Do I just reassemble it and see how it runs and then find a nice used motor if it doesn't run well or do I go ahead and find that nice used engine now?

    Here's a pic of the head....



    The compression to this cylinder was good, even though it doesn't look so good on the inside.

    -C

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    i'd be taking these pics to Mazda and demanding they bring a tow truck to the house to pick up the car and put a new motor in

    Retards didn't reconnect any of my coolant lines when i had my VICS recall done

    Didn't keep any recipts or anything, now my motor drinks oil like nobodies business

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    About that...

    I have spoken to the Customer Assistance Center and they said that any repairs would have to go through the dealer.

    So, I spoke to the service manager at my local dealer and he said that even warranty work is not getting paid for by Mazda in our current economic state. He estimated that I would have about a 5% chance to get Mazda to pay for any of the labor and maybe just a slightly better chance to get some subsidized parts.

    The Service Manager also said that the car would have to be totally put together for them to even consider diagnosing it. The diagnosis fee would be a minimum of $95.

    I would have to take the time to put my broke a$$ car back together anyway, so why not buy $300 in parts (instead of pissing away $95) and put it back together right?

    The recall work was performed and the warranty period for the recall work has expired. My P5 is out of the factory warranty period as well. It's not right that this happened, but since it happened out of warranty, can they be held responsible?

    -C

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    oh, if you were out of warranty, you're up a creek now. Sorry bud
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    you should contact the mazda usa again and also the local district service manager and try to get them to goodwill this repair... it's bullshit that this thing failed! it needs a special recall intake manifold (rumored to be different, I still want to see pics of it!), and definitely a new engine

    what kind of fucking "diagnostics" is needed when its obvious right there that the screws are embedded in the engine?

    fight this, don't pay to fix a defect!
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    If you want to really get Mazda and/or the local dealership to do anything, especially seeing as this should be done by their own goodwill, submit your story to the Consumerist (www.consumerist.com). I've seen a lot of things get resolved because companies don't want their "good" names dragged through the dirt.
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    That is a defect, there should be no "warranty" period on defects. The manufacturer should own up to this and move on

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