Forge vs APT WGA

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SleepyMSP

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2003.5 MSP

• May 24, 2009

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I wanted to know what would be a better course to take, a stock replacement APT WGA and get a boost controller later on or a forge adjustable WGA.

I'm looking in terms of reliability I know that the overall cost will be the same (if I go with a MBC).

I was thinking of finally uping the bost to say 9-10 PSI (probably 9 to keep a buffer from the zoom zoom boom)

soooo....opinions please

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Metallic36

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2003 Mazda6 3.0L Speed Yellow

• May 25, 2009

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They do have ATP actuators for higher boost.. I would recommend that. With the Forge there seems to be quite a few issues out there with boosting, spiking, etc. I've never heard of any issues with the ATP one.

 

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SleepyMSP

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• May 25, 2009

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duh.....I'm an idiot, I totally forgot they made different boost level WGAs....thank for reminding me I'll probably end up doing this

 

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jmv

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2003 MSP #1475

• May 25, 2009

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yeah i can't hold boost with my forge wga... it always drops off as revs increase. It kind of sucks. The thing will probably last forever, unlike the ATP i had in there before (i only got about 20K miles out of it), however, i kinda wish the forge would crap out so i would have an excuse to replace it.

 

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lp216

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• May 25, 2009

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I love my Forge WGA because I can lower the boost.
I'm running 5 PSI DD (fuel economy) then 10 psi full boost with my Profec

 

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SleepyMSP

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• May 25, 2009

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lp216 said:

I love my Forge WGA because I can lower the boost.
I'm running 5 PSI DD (fuel economy) then 10 psi full boost with my Profec

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Im my opinion that really defeats the purpose of shelling out for an adjustable WGA if your going to leave it around stock levels and still get an EBC. you could have gotten a ATP WGA for 5 PSI and still used the EBC with it afterwards but hey to each his own I guess

 

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lp216

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• May 25, 2009

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True but I bought it from someone else and got a very nice price.

 

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SleepyMSP

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• May 25, 2009

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that always helps

 

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Outlawstar98

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2003 MazdaSpeed Protege / 2013 BRZ

• May 25, 2009

• #9

IMHO get the APT. I hear to many bad things about the Forge.

 

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SeR_Cyclops

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• May 25, 2009

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ATP is the best, it wont last as long but its cheaper and its a better unit im on my second ATP and I have had good luck out of both of them.

 

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43975

• May 25, 2009

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Is going through WGA every 20K or less really good luck???? With then said I've been having a similar issue with my Forge unit with boost leak. But won't know if it that or the BOV until I get my new BOV in... I like that fact that the Forge unit is rebuildable and you can adjust how much boost your running from the WGA itself. Also when you decide to go over 10 psi you just need to change out the spring instead of removing the whole thing

 

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CreativeBicycle

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2003 MSP

• May 25, 2009

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What exactly is the difference between the OEM WGA (besides price) versus both the less expensive ATP and Forge WGA's? I'm probably going to be replacing mine soon after the current work I'm getting done, but for now I'm transferring over the old stock WGA.

 

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43975

• May 25, 2009

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The stocks are expensive and tend to fail often, plus you have more options when getting one of the after market ones