NA Tech Race to 100whp per 1000cc's

you know what i think it was TwilightProtege who use to have his sig setup like that.

a na 250hp kl will be very fun.

time for some sleep 12:30am over here
 
I like the rule change, it makes much more sense. This challenge is a great idea. If I had a lot more money, I'd have a go at it instead of turbocharging.

I do wonder about different dynos though, my car was putting out 94.9wkw(127.2whp) on a Dynamic Test Systems dyno, but I think it would have been less on a Dyno Dynamics.
 
I like the rule change, it makes much more sense. This challenge is a great idea. If I had a lot more money, I'd have a go at it instead of turbocharging.

I do wonder about different dynos though, my car was putting out 94.9wkw(127.2whp) on a Dynamic Test Systems dyno, but I think it would have been less on a Dyno Dynamics.

Unfortunatly not much i can do about that... Dyno Dynamics Shoot 4 would be a GREAT rule, as it provides some of the best correction factors out there (theoretically you can put the same car on a Dyno Dynamics dyno set for Shoot 4 on 5 different dynos all over the world, and get numbers within a bees dick of each other every single time).....but dyno dynamics are not huge in the states so i can't really stipulate that...

its all a bit of fun, theres no prizes (yet...i'm working on it!) - And 200whp on any reputable dyno is going to be huge for a 2L FSDE no matter which way you look at it.....
 
now with the new rule of 100hp per L, does that mean I can play? haha. I dont even see me reaching 350rwhp anytime soon.
 
now with the new rule of 100hp per L, does that mean I can play? haha. I dont even see me reaching 350rwhp anytime soon.

no - this competition isn't open to "team traitor" :p hehe

Like i said, put an engine with a mazda badge in it and i'll let you have a go... :p KL-ZE stroker powered 350Z :p
 
i reckon i could get 200hp, not 200whp. only cos ive just found out the euro spec 323 sport, runs basically everything the sport20 has :) (butthump)
 
Ok time for a checkup guys!
anyone making any serious inroads into the target?

Or do i need to fly over there and whip the lot of you into action?
 
wont be starting till end of october, and right now im trying to get my suspension up to par. reason im waiting is i will have a pretty decent bonus comin my way at the end of october, at which point i will be buying another FS or a KL to do this build with. havent decided yet.
 
get a klze. thats at least 200 crank hp they are rated for?

Good luck guys this sounds liek a fun challange.

I woudl say aroudn 5 g for a build.
we had an escort owner on the escort boards was about 200 crank mark on a 1.8. so i think you guys should be able for it.
 
title says first to 200hp but its been changed to 100 per liter. for anyone considering overboring or the kl. also its whp not chp. so build will probably cost more than. 5k. and the kl will cost even more, cause there is even less aftermarket support than the fs. money is definately a big factor in the challenge
 
It certainly is an expensive challange, and it may go for a year or more before someone ultimately takes the title out - but the main idea is to see how people go about things differently, and how the various mazda engines respond to severe NA modification.

The KL may cost more in terms of lack of aftermarket support, but the engine itself has lots more potential than the FS. Short stroke makes the thing an absolute rev monster, and the ability to push out 2.7L when overbored makes it a formidable engine.

In order to get the FS to have the same sort of potential as the KL, lots more needs to be spent on bottom end work to bring the stroke back to a level that is more able to rev to the limits that it will need to go to to break the 100whp/L mark. So all in all it comes out about the same.

The thing is, what ever way you go, theres going to need to be more custom bits than you can poke a stick at in the engine bay - and anyone competing in the challenge will likely end up with a very unique machine. I doubt that 2 people will approach the problem in the same way.

My advice? do loads of research, then spend thrift - go after the big areas of improvement first - the places where your engine of choice fails miserably. Fix those problems first and put the motor at the level it SHOULD have been at when delivered from the factory. Then try and win the challenge by doing the major modifications that are required to get you there.

Oh and you'll all need engine management to do it :p put something on your shopping list :p
 
a 270whp klze(2.7L)....... that would be amazing. and would probably sound sexy as hell.
 
i can see this being doable with a fs engine just going to take a nice chunk of change. why is meth injection not aloud?
 
I was going to say that I already accomplished this, but then I saw the Mazda motor only rule. But oh well, I sold my Honda anyway.
 
i can see this being doable with a fs engine just going to take a nice chunk of change. why is meth injection not aloud?

Meth injection not allowed - reason being that i'm going by the ANDRA "all motor" rules - which state that fuel the addition of any chemical to the fuel tract after the fuel tank. You can run the car on methanol, you just can't add it after the tank.

Meth injection is considered a "power adder" - as is water injection, NOS, and so on.
 
Meth injection not allowed - reason being that i'm going by the ANDRA "all motor" rules - which state that fuel the addition of any chemical to the fuel tract after the fuel tank. You can run the car on methanol, you just can't add it after the tank.

Meth injection is considered a "power adder" - as is water injection, NOS, and so on.

ah ok i was going to say meth injection is a good way to achieve that goal safely
 

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