mazdaboy403
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MrTea said:
g to a mazda dealership and ask them yourselfs. 212 hp at the wheels. used to be 220 but they tuned it down to run on regular gas.
removing speed governor
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g to a mazda dealership and ask them yourselfs. 212 hp at the wheels. used to be 220 but they tuned it down to run on regular gas.
mazdaboy403 said:
that's why if you take a FWD car and a RWD car, same hp/weight ratio, the RWD somehow comes out on top?
think of it in terms of physics.... how much easier is it for you to physically PUSH a large block of cement, than it is to pull it?
on top of that it's easier to heat up the tires for better grip on a RWD car.
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Koenig said:
haha . if i could go back and buy something different i would . but i cant. and im in the process of saving for a house . so i dont really want to buy a new car right now lol . if a srt4 can run 12's with a turbo why cant i ?
wait, you said you dyno'd 218hp i thought....that's where my questions started. mazda's #'s are at the flywheel, not the wheels, i've yet to see a stock V6 roll more than 175 on the dyno. you saying you had more than 40hp last time you dyno'd? that just doesn't make sense.
also have questions on your ecu. what are you using? haven't seen anything work on the V6 yet, so i'm interested. my roommate put a turbo on his, and we don't have a tuner nailed down yet. going to a shop to test out an option, but nothing has been shown to work yet?
i don't think i'd have a 6 if i made the money...but i also understand about saving for a house. that would be a big concern for me as well.
also have questions on your ecu. what are you using? haven't seen anything work on the V6 yet, so i'm interested. my roommate put a turbo on his, and we don't have a tuner nailed down yet. going to a shop to test out an option, but nothing has been shown to work yet?
i don't think i'd have a 6 if i made the money...but i also understand about saving for a house. that would be a big concern for me as well.
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MrTea said:
the mazdas do make 212 on the wheels . it says on mazdas webiste now at the botom of the page . 212 hp revised with bla bla bla standards in italics. ive got a few new videos one of me racing a eagle talon ,all wheel drive with a turbo +other mods . and one of a rolling 20 start. if u wanna see . just pm me ur e-mail.
MrTea@socal.rr.com
i'd like to check out your dyno's too, as i think the setting were incorrect, or it was calculating bhp rather than whp. it's an easy mistake if you don't ask them.
i hate to say it, but you high (as well as mazda) if you think the stock V6 puts down 212whp. up until last year, it was rated at 220bhp, which was lowered as so many (like the rx-8) were showing much lower numbers. my roomate ran 168whp in his atx...which is 52 (24%) in drivetrain loss if it was accurate. my 2.3 (rated at 160bhp) ran 128 (20% loss)on two different dyno's in stock form. so you see they dropped both engine #'s to make it a bit more acceptable.
i'd like to check out your dyno's too, as i think the setting were incorrect, or it was calculating bhp rather than whp. it's an easy mistake if you don't ask them.
i hate to say it, but you high (as well as mazda) if you think the stock V6 puts down 212whp. up until last year, it was rated at 220bhp, which was lowered as so many (like the rx-8) were showing much lower numbers. my roomate ran 168whp in his atx...which is 52 (24%) in drivetrain loss if it was accurate. my 2.3 (rated at 160bhp) ran 128 (20% loss)on two different dyno's in stock form. so you see they dropped both engine #'s to make it a bit more acceptable.
mazdaboy403 said:
lol, because for one thing the srt-4s also have internal work done to them, so they can handle the high boost
on top of that I've never seen an srt-4 run low 12s unless they had the stage 2.... and the srt-4s running the low 12s around here are putting down almost 400 whp.
the srt-4s are also lighter than the 6s as far as I remember reading.... weight matters too.
I'm not saying you can't run low 12s, with the money you can.......but you running mid 13s as is...... doubtful. If you lived around south florida I'd gladly ask you if you wanted to do a dig and roll race with my stock speed6. you'd have to beat me if you were running mid 13s.
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Koenig said:
Damn, Busted.. (pukey) (piss) (dunno)
Speed6 is much better road car..(drunk)
yeah, i was just kidding.
but mine is still a DD for the most part. i mean, all i've "really done" on mine is the turbo. the engine and tranny swap weren't for anything but reliabilty on the track since the stock stuff doesn't tend to last long. everything else is off the shelf.
i just usually get into it when people start doggin FWD's in general, or the speed guys say it's the only way to get power from a 6. i've spent about the same on my car (new) as a speed6 (new) with every cp-e option (intake, DP, exahust, FMIC, tuner).....and i still think i could give it a run for it's money. i know for sure i'd have a damn fun time trying!! just wish there were speed6's that went to the track....but they don't exist it seems out here?
but mine is still a DD for the most part. i mean, all i've "really done" on mine is the turbo. the engine and tranny swap weren't for anything but reliabilty on the track since the stock stuff doesn't tend to last long. everything else is off the shelf.
i just usually get into it when people start doggin FWD's in general, or the speed guys say it's the only way to get power from a 6. i've spent about the same on my car (new) as a speed6 (new) with every cp-e option (intake, DP, exahust, FMIC, tuner).....and i still think i could give it a run for it's money. i know for sure i'd have a damn fun time trying!! just wish there were speed6's that went to the track....but they don't exist it seems out here?
yeah regarding the stock stuff doesn't tend to last long, I was following my gf from my house... she stayed over the weekend... back to her apartment, she lives about 36.3 miles from my driveway to hers, taking the shortest route possible.... she had sped up and got in front of a car to take a right turn, so I had to speed up and fly through the corner too, probably hit it about 35 to 40 mph.... she sent me a text and said my car handles better than hers, lol.MrTea said:
MrTea said:
Yeah I know what you mean, a lot of people underrate FWDs, but that's because most people think of racing in terms of 1/4 drag racing, I prefer auto-x and track racing.... FWD cars are actually very good when it comes to that.... just look at the mazda6s and the Acura TSXs giving the BMWs and the Audi A4s a run for their money in the Speed World Challenge Touring Car races
If I lived out in CA, or you lived in FL, I'd have no problem going to the track with you to have some fun and see how the cars compare side by side....but we have a somewhat 3000 mile gap between us, (laugh)
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