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    HOW-TO: Emanage "USB to USB" data link cable for 5 dollars!

    This is not for the newbie with electronics..

    You may damage your Emanage or computer or both.

    Since the Emanage software is actually free!!
    (Free Emanage Softwareclick here for free emanage software, serial # is any numbe ryou want, talk about 128-bit encryption!)

    now on to the fun part
    i will add pictures after i do this myself, so far it is information acquiered from the net

    As posted on the Emanage Yahoo Group:

    I will definately try this!
    -Nick

    Andrew scott wrote:
    OK, I have finally made my self a working support tool cable. I have
    soldered a dku-5 off ebay straight into a usb type-A connector. Here are
    the steps you need (I think, feel free to add some).

    1) First, get your dku-5 off ebay and once it arrives chop the phone end off


    2) Now install the drivers that hopefully came with the cable, otherwise try
    http://tinyurl.com/lfjes - these didn't work for me, so wasn't worth the
    hassle of registering. Resist the urge to install anything that comes with
    the cable except the minimum driver - this should lead to a comm port
    showing up in device manager

    3) Use hyper terminal to determine the RX and TX cables in your DKU-5: The
    TX and RX wires will show about 3 volts back to ground (black cable). Then
    in HyperTerminal if you press and hold a key the TX wire will drop in
    voltage as it transmits data. Note which is which.

    (in my case I found that blue was TX leaving white to be RX)

    4) strip apart a convenient basic USB cable to donate the type-A connector
    from. Use an old dead mouse or nick something from work

    5) Use a soldering iron to remove the old connections in the USB socket,
    noting which end of the 4 terminals you remove the black cable from

    6) solder the DKU in place such that the black (ground) goes where the black
    of the USB was, then the RX on the next pin (white in my case) then TX on
    the next pin (blue for me). You should end up with something like
    http://www.silicon-net.co.uk/dku5.jpg. Be careful not to short any of the
    wires, either to each other or the metal surrounds.

    7) carefully test the cable now!!!

    8) put the USB-A plug all back together and start tuning!

    I found that I had to set the comm. port speed in device manager to
    2400/8/none/1/none before the support tool would work. It may just be a
    random thing, but worth trying if you are having problems.

    If the cable still won't work, check that you didn't start at the wrong end
    of the USB plug when soldering - I did first time. Did that the first time
    I tried. Then I shorted something out, then finally decided on adding step
    7, and lots of insulating tape

    Good luck. Hopefully this will be useful as a bit of a reference. Credit
    goes to everyone else that helped put little pieces together for me, Jake in
    particular. Next month I do the same to an LC-1 controller

    Andrew



    Where to buy the cable: Ebay, metropcs.

    supposely PDA cables work too since some of them use comm ports

    also, any usb to serial cable should work too...this has not been proven


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    emanage clone cable
    diy clone cable
    diy emanage cable
    do-it-yourself usb emanage cable
    diy usb to usb cable
    diy usb-to-usb cable )

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    Hi, I’ve been trying for years now to get my Emanage to work, or at least to connect it to the PC.
    I’ve tried USB to TTL, and RS232 to TTL, I got them tested working on Hyper Terminal.

    I don’t know what else I can do. I hope it’s not the emanage blue that I bought it used. There is something that I’m doing “different” that I hope it is the cause: I don’t have the emanage connected to a car, I’m using a Power supply 12v 1A DC, connected to the Power and ground cables of connector 1, this is the only “strange” thing I’m doing. When I give it power both active (green) and Interaction (orange) lights turn on, Non-blinking.

    With the usb PL2303 HXA, when I connect it to the emanage, the Active light turns on for some seconds (without giving power to the emanage). Something that does not occur with the RS232, I guess because the RS232 +5v receives power in order to work, and the USB does the opposite, it gives power, which I find it odd because all tutorials USB or RS232 say connect positive to positive, but I think this is an important difference.

    Any help?

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    I don't think anyone on this forum uses the Greddy Emanage anymore. Typically with usb-serial adapters they have trouble connecting because they are not good quality, the drivers are not written well or they are not compatible with the operating system on the computer, but this can be a hard issue to diagnose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nnttem View Post
    Hi, I*ve been trying for years now to get my Emanage to work, or at least to connect it to the PC.
    I*ve tried USB to TTL, and RS232 to TTL, I got them tested working on Hyper Terminal.

    I don*t know what else I can do. I hope it*s not the emanage blue that I bought it used. There is something that I*m doing *different* that I hope it is the cause: I don*t have the emanage connected to a car, I*m using a Power supply 12v 1A DC, connected to the Power and ground cables of connector 1, this is the only *strange* thing I*m doing. When I give it power both active (green) and Interaction (orange) lights turn on, Non-blinking.

    With the usb PL2303 HXA, when I connect it to the emanage, the Active light turns on for some seconds (without giving power to the emanage). Something that does not occur with the RS232, I guess because the RS232 +5v receives power in order to work, and the USB does the opposite, it gives power, which I find it odd because all tutorials USB or RS232 say connect positive to positive, but I think this is an important difference.

    Any help?

    Hi!
    Don't know if this info is still relevant for you but anyway
    I suppose that you've read guide from there https://www.livetodai.com/t/diy-usb-...data-cable/519 and used USB-TTL converter YP-01 like this

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IDM3MOWAcl0/hqdefault.jpg

    This converter has opposite marking of RX/TX signals. So you should just swap green and white wires from USB cable and it will work.

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