Simply put in order for Mazda to keep the price down on the MSP they had to cut corners. They basically slapped a turbo on an FS and called it a day. This motor was not meant to handle high hp numbers hence why they were only allowed to run the miserable amount of psi through that's right, plastic pipes. Anyone who wants to have a high powered machine has to go back and reverse engineer Mazdas shortcomings.
What have you done to your MSP today?
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- 1989 RX-7 GXL Blaze Red
I am thoroughly impressed with how clean the insides of the coolant passages look after running Evans waterless coolant. Absolutely no corrosion anywhere to be seen.
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- 2003 mazdaspeed protege
Where do you get coolant like that
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- 1989 RX-7 GXL Blaze Red
the internet lol. You do have to completely flush the whooooooole system out.
hornsfan10609
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege x2
And you are not replacing them? Is that a thing? I have never heard of doing that and certainly wouldn't make my motor the guinea pig. Aren't they there for a reason?
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
Nope, some have done it.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123813934-Oil-squirter-delete&highlight=oil+squirter
And others have done it to other engines. Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford, Honda
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hornsfan10609
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege x2
I guess it's a thing, it's up to you.
Spiced MSP
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haven't been on here in quite some time!!! What's up guys!!!! lol
I was torn with that choice and decided to keep them. I have heard of people not having them with no issues but still.. it makes me feel safer about not spinning a bearing, whether that's just in my head or not I don't know. The oil system isn't that great to begin with.. I guess you know that though
Yo what you driving now man.
Spiced MSP
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Toyota Tundra. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel of something fun though. I miss boost. lol
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
Put a TRD supercharger on it. We're installing one on a Taco at the shop in a couple of weeks. This old guy, a customer of mine, is buying all his own Christmas presents I guess. We installed aftermarket fog lights, aftermarket exhaust, and some ugly brush guards and side bars. I'm all for the exhaust and TRD supercharger, though!
The 6 parts stopping me from completing my engine rebuild will be here next week.
1) K1 Rod.
2) 4x Wiseco Rings.
3) AWR deep sump hardware.
I decided to remove my oil squirters as well, main reason I chose it is because the already bad oil system we have. When reading about it, it made sense that with the squirters in you'll be losing oil pressure which is one of our main concerns and the amount of oil coming of the crank would allow enough lubrication to the wrist pins and bearings. And the other upside is that I didn't have to pay for the new ones so I'm not complaining about that.
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
Same reason I decided that too.
Velocifero
Wham Bam thank you Ma'am
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- VRM MS6, Sunlight Silver MSP
I still have my MSP, I love it even though it hasn't been driven in ages and I currently have a MS6 with some modifications as a daily. I love the 6, it just has to be treated like most Mazdas, you can't go too crazy on them with mods before you start to make your own problems. The MSP was a fun car and good to start with, then I wanted a little more grown up car so the mid sized sedan was perfect for me even though I have been eyeing CTS-Vs for the longest time, every time I look at cars I circle back to it and begin figuring out the finances, I'd prefer to get a 2nd gen and recently started thinking about the likes of an IS-F as well... but its lots of cash.
may seem like a stupid question for you engine peeps but im not really a super automotive person... do you need to do excess machine work to upgrade the rods? if the innards of the engine are good, can you just drop the pan and support plate and replace them from the bottom?
my engine looks pretty new, i dont plan to make big hp but i dont want my engine to.. lose weight.. Could i swap to k1 or similar aftermarket rods without a absolute teardown?
$500 for k1 rods seems like cheap insurance if nothing else.
my engine looks pretty new, i dont plan to make big hp but i dont want my engine to.. lose weight.. Could i swap to k1 or similar aftermarket rods without a absolute teardown?
$500 for k1 rods seems like cheap insurance if nothing else.
