Question on P5 clutch pedal feel

On our P5 five-speed with the 2.0 non-turbo engine, the clutch pedal doesn't feel very good. The previous owner had the clutch replaced about 25k miles ago. The car has 260k miles on it.

The clutch pedal is generally hard to push as compared to my other vehicles. But the biggest concern is that after pressing the clutch pedal down, it gets even harder to press near the end and reach the disengagement point so you can shift gears easily. It's really wearing my left leg out. I replaced and bled the clutch slave cylinder yesterday because the bleeder was frozen on the old one and I wanted to bleed fluid. I'm not sure when the clutch master cylinder was replaced, if ever.

Any ideas on how to improve the situation? I read a little bit about the pedal adjustment procedure, but have not done anything yet. Would a worn clutch master cylinder make it hard to press the clutch pedal, especially near the disengagement point?
 

pcb

The Diagram Dude
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2002 MP5
Would a worn clutch master cylinder make it hard to press the clutch pedal, especially near the disengagement point?
I think that yes it could. I remember that when I bled my clutch, I thought I broke it or had a huge air bubble because it was so smooth and easy to push. And that was from just changing the fluid.

I remember a few guys chasing that problem down and replaced the slave and master cylinders.

Some said it was good for a while but would be problematic once the car was hot. There was mention of cheap aftermarket parts failing fast. Some guy opted to rebuild his OEM with new seals.

If it were me, I would throw the $20 part at it.



Another thing that I remember is that the clutch eventually connects with the transmission and that connection point might need a dab of grease, or it could be worn out.
 
Ok, thanks for the info. Do you need to bleed the clutch master cylinder the same way you would bleed a new brake master cylinder? Or can you just bolt it up, connect the rubber hose from the reservoir and output hard line fitting, and bleed it from the slave bleeder nipple?
 

pcb

The Diagram Dude
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2002 MP5
As far as I recall, you can just install the new cylinder.
You just bleed the clutch and push the air out.





"2.Draw the fluid from the reservoir with a suction pump."...

A turkey baster from the dollar store works great...
 

pcb

The Diagram Dude
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2002 MP5
Here's a few related threads...











 

pcb

The Diagram Dude
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2002 MP5
That, I don't know.

I'm guessing the more expensive option at Rockauto is better quality or the original OEM supplier.
 

pcb

The Diagram Dude
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2002 MP5
I found this...





OEM is expensive but surfing around the web is probably cheaper than getting it directly from your local Mazda dealer.
 
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