Michelin Pilot Sport 4 Opinions?

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It turns out a local supplier here in Colombia can get this tire for me in size 235 55 R19. Does anyone have an opinion on fitting this tire to a 2020 CX-5?
It is slightly larger than the stock tires. Visually it looks like the traction it offers won't be any better than the stock tires in slippery unpaved conditions, something I was hoping for.
 

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And the OP should know that PS4 are ultra high performance summer tires, and not CUV/SUV all season /3 season touring tires. They are like apples and oranges. I would expect that UHP summer tires would wear much more quickly than touring tires, sacrificing the tread compound for increased grip/street performance.

I know the OP country may be much more limited in tire choices, but at least get a sampling of the brands and models of tires that are in the same class as the OEM A-36 so that you are comparing apples to apples.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?tireIndex=0&autoMake=Mazda&autoYear=2021&autoModel=CX-5+AWD&autoModClar=Signature&width=225%2F&ratio=55&diameter=19&sortCode=57265&skipOver=true&minSpeedRating=H&minLoadRating=S
Yes. My reply is only to treadwear concern OP mentioned. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV is the worst among tires discussed.
 
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I have no issues with my A36 tires on my MAZDA GTR. Clearly the best-tire-for the-dollar compared to any Michelin listed here. The A36 do very well here in the rainy season. Ed
Agreed. Although OE Toyo A36 may not be the best tire available for our CX-5 on 225/55R19, but the price is much lower than Michelin’s, only a half of Michelin Pilot Sport 4’s price in the US! In OP’s situation, Toyo A36 could be the best choice available everything considered.
 
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Thank you very much for those helpful options. Pilot Sport 4 is off the table! There are no Michelins in stock size available anyway. A local dealer says he can get me Kumho in the correct size. I lost my notes but I think he said KL33s. Other tires that I can supposedly buy online (until they say "not available") are: Nanking SP9, Nitto 41Q, Rydanz RO6, Westlake SUi3 H/T and Totqu TQ-HP 701. At least in pictures the Nittos look good but I'm flying blind. Opinions on any of the above beginning with the Kumhos? Failing any of those I imagine I can get the original Toyos through my dealer.Thanks for any input.
 
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Thank you very much for those helpful options. Pilot Sport 4 is off the table! There are no Michelins in stock size available anyway. A local dealer says he can get me Kumho in the correct size. I lost my notes but I think he said KL33s. Other tires that I can supposedly buy online (until they say "not available") are: Nanking SP9, Nitto 41Q, Rydanz RO6, Westlake SUi3 H/T and Totqu TQ-HP 701. At least in pictures the Nittos look good but I'm flying blind. Opinions on any of the above beginning with the Kumhos? Failing any of those I imagine I can get the original Toyos through my dealer.Thanks for any input.
The problem to compare tires between different regions is the model name can be different on the same tire. Among the tires you mentioned some of them do exist in the US market.

NanKang Cross Sport SP-9 with “560 A A” UTQG is available in the US, but not in size 225/55R19. NanKang Tire is the largest tire company in Taiwan by the way.

Kumho Crugen KL33 with “440 A A” UTQG is available in the US, but not in size 225/55R19 either. Kumho Tire is the second largest tire manufacturer in South Korea.

Nitto NT421Q with “640 A A” UTQG is available in the US on size 225/55R19. Its Load Range is XL (extra load) in 103V instead of usual 99V or 99H for the size 225/55R19. Nitto tires are made by Toyo Tire Corp. based in Japan.

WestLake SU318 H/T with “500 A A” UTQG is available in the US on size 225/55R19. WestLake tires are from the largest Chinese tire company, Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co. Ltd.

And I don’t know the rest of tires you mentioned.

IMO, Nitto NT421Q would be my top choice with the benefit of XL load range, meaning stronger sidewall which is better for your road conditions. But the tire will be heavier, at 31.75 lbs. each, because of that. With “640” UTQG on treadwear rating the Nitto NT421Q should last twice as longer than its sister brand Toyo A36 which has only “300” UTQG on treadwear rating. Of course the price will be 50% more expensive based on the prices in US market.
 
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Thank you @yrwei52, that is a super informative response! Yes, I've seen that model names change for all sorts of merchandise. Going to try for the Nittos.
 
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Colombia does not allow replacement auto parts to be brought in. I imagene this includes tires.
 
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Well it looks like it's going to be the Kumho Crugen KL33. It is used by Korean KIA of course. No Nittos to be found. Roads into Cali remain blockaded by the national strike including the road from Buenaventure, the port city so new opyions for a good while.
 
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Well it looks like it's going to be the Kumho Crugen KL33. It is used by Korean KIA of course. No Nittos to be found. Roads into Cali remain blockaded by the national strike including the road from Buenaventure, the port city so new opyions for a good while.
Is the OE Toyo A36 available? I’d take Toyo over Kumho any day if Nitto tire is not available.
 
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Second that. It seems you don't have much choice...o with the oems, at least those should be available I hope.

It’s kind of weird Mazda ships the cars for Colombia with the A36. The EU at least gets the other Toyo Proxies (summer only) which is better than the A36.
 
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Ok good to know. I don't know if Mazda has the stock tires or not. I will check. One reason there aren't many choices right now is that Colombia has been experiencing a national strike for over a month and roads into and out of Cali are barricaded including the one connecting with the port city of Buenaventura so no merchandise is making it to Cali. I can hold out on tires a while longer so will just wait.
 
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The Michelin Pilot Sport 4 is an outstanding tire. I went through 2 sets of them on my Nissan 370Z. But I wouldn't consider them on any SUV. They are a high performance and rather expensive tire for sports cars. I only got about 25,000 miles out of them which is expected for a tire like that.
I know you are located in Columbia which may limit the availability of some brands, but I would start by going to TireRack.com and reading some reviews on tires suitable for SUV's. Then see if you can purchase the ones you like locally,

I have mentioned before that the stock Toyos on my CX 5 are very poor performers with even just a few inches of snow on the steep hills where I live. Luckily it only snows a half dozen times a year up here. But when it is time to replace them, I will read the reviews and try to find something better. I do have no complaints about their performance on dry pavement though, the CX 5 handles very well on the highways for a heavy, high center of gravity vehicle.
 
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My point is if almost every CX-5 owner with 19” tires can live with the Toyo A36 tires for the first 30K ~ 50K miles, why not keep using the A36 if there’s no other choices available, and the price is good? And IMO using factory specified tire size is also very important on any car speed related calculation for on-board computers, and wrong sized tires could even affect the safety.
The Toyos on my 2018 were shot by 30K miles. As they aged out they became very noisy. I invested in a set of Michelins; big difference and worth the extra money.
 
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It now appears I may be able to get Mastercraft Courser HSX in 22 55 R19 size. I know this is not in the same class of Toyo or Michelin but the tread pattern looks slightly more useful in semi-off road conditions which would be helpful in my driving conditions.
 
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