FSZE Protege5 Track Build

njaremka

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2011 MX5 GT
Love it!!! I miss my 2001 Protegé sedan every now and again, and would love to take a trip like this. Love reading about your journey. thanks for sharing.
 
SO much work into that car! So, I have raced SCCA since I was 17 (57 now) off and on depending on the car that I owned. I bought a brand new black Protege5 when they came out. Just loved that car, it handled better than any car I had ever had up to that point. The only car I have had that handles better is the Impreza Sport I just had. The thing is the P5 is a dog, just way under powered. I sold it after two years because a.) it was slow and b.) it was horrible in the snow even with snow tires.

In my humble opinion you are putting a ton of time and money into an engine (not the car) that isn't going to get the performance you want. You can put all of the shinny bits you want on it but you need to put something with a turbo into it or a 6cyl.
 
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2015 Mazda 6
SO much work into that car! So, I have raced SCCA since I was 17 (57 now) off and on depending on the car that I owned. I bought a brand new black Protege5 when they came out. Just loved that car, it handled better than any car I had ever had up to that point. The only car I have had that handles better is the Impreza Sport I just had. The thing is the P5 is a dog, just way under powered. I sold it after two years because a.) it was slow and b.) it was horrible in the snow even with snow tires.

In my humble opinion you are putting a ton of time and money into an engine (not the car) that isn't going to get the performance you want. You can put all of the shinny bits you want on it but you need to put something with a turbo into it or a 6cyl.
I can easily turbo charge the car, but i really don’t wanna deal with the stress, i just want to be on track and get seat time. I want to get the car sorted to it’s full potential and leave it be. I know the NA FS is a lost cause , but i am lookin to put the car on stand alone and try e85 and have it tuned just to see how the ZE does. The car has transformed so much with every little change it’s nothing like what it was before . But if something goes bad with the motor a KL swap would be ideal.
 

31N007

31N007
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Mazda Protege5
a KL swap would be ideal.
*psst, I have a thread documenting that ;) *

Glad to be able to troll through your build and updates on this forum too now!

I share the same sentiments regarding how the car handles stock, and how much more enjoyable it can be with a set of struts/RSB on it.

iracemine had a high-HP N/A built Protege5 and has a thread documenting their work on here. I'd have liked to have gotten a hold of the thing when it was on bringatrailer way back, but alas wasn't in a position to do so.
 
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2015 Mazda 6
*psst, I have a thread documenting that ;) *

Glad to be able to troll through your build and updates on this forum too now!

I share the same sentiments regarding how the car handles stock, and how much more enjoyable it can be with a set of struts/RSB on it.

iracemine had a high-HP N/A built Protege5 and has a thread documenting their work on here. I'd have liked to have gotten a hold of the thing when it was on bringatrailer way back, but alas wasn't in a position to do so.
yea the new owner is in one of the FB groups. NExt time the engine comes out a FS wont be going back in lol.
 
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I had to make a trip down to Daytona to shoot the Jzilla Track Day. And while I was down there I linked up with a friend of a friend who used to have a Protege 5 years ago. And he still had his old VIS carbon fiber hood from years ago..
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The hood was in pretty bad shape and been halfway paint matched. But for $100 it was steal because these things are usually about $8-$900 if you can find one. I was really interested in the weight savings, but I had to get it looking somewhat decent. So I had to send it off to my good friend to have him strip it and re-clear it before I installed it.
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I had wanted to pull the dash out for awhile and completely remove the rest of the HVAC system. So on a bored friday night I went in the garage and started to look at a plan of action for removing it. And about a hour later I had the dash laying on the floor... I had no intention of taking it out but for some reason at 1am on a Friday I decided to do so.
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I removed all the vent ducts and any random mounting or brackets that were no longer needed.
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Everything removed
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While the dash was out, I took the time to install a set of the OE Sparco Pedals that come in the Mazdaspeed Protege. I didnt really think pedals could be a big deal until now. But the extra grip and size of the pedals helps keep my foot in the proper position.
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Removing the Dash was not as tough as I thought. I spent more time connecting the steering wheel to the shaft then anything.
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For awhile I had noticed a vibration / noise at around 45-55mph. I suspected maybe my rear wheel bearings are starting to go out. I had a spare low mileage set that I got from Mazmart. Of course replaced the wheel bearings, and still same noise / vibration...
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I thought maybe it was time to replace the axles, the car has 300k on it, and they may still be the OEM axles. Replaced them... still same noise. So after wasting money on that, I left that issue alone for now...
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I had an extra set of injectors that I sent out to get cleaned. They came out of a MP3 with less then 2000 miles on it. But they had been sitting since 2001. So they were all gunked up pretty bad.
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My good friends at EBtec cleaned them up for me, so I swapped them out just because....
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I also got my hands on a Protege MP3 ecu! This ECU is out of the 2001 Mazda Protege MP3 which was our version of the Mazdaspeed Familia that was available in Japan. But the Familia had a 190hp higher output version of the FSZE that I have swapped in my P5. The US version came with the standard FSDE version that made 140hp, but was equipped with a modified ECU to squeeze out a extra 10hp, and a much better power band. Since I dont have the proper ECU for the FSZE, this MP3 ECU is the best alternative.
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My first time back at Atlanta Morotsports Park with the new setup was amazing! AMP is perfect for the P5s setup being so technical, and the straightaways are perfect for the power band. The MP3 ECU made a noticeable difference in the higher RPMS. The day was flawless, and I noticed my times decreasing all day.
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I was in the groove, and I heard a loud thump in the back... and looked back and saw my battery laying sideways in the trunk midway through turn 6, being held by the power cables. For some reason I thought a rubber tie down would suffice for track duty. But it was a silly thought, and something I did not think to be an issue. So that ended my day at AMP..The only issue that I had was trying to stay in my seat. With the current setup, I had to have a race seat, because it started to become a job to stay in my seat..Check out the video of one of the better laps..


Trackday Video


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Affter AMP, I went on a hunt to find a seat. After almost buying a new Sparco, I was able to get a killer deal on a new / used Sabelt GTS seat from Greg over at Koruworks. It was missing the back pad, but the deal was too good to skip.
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I rushed into installation and got cheap universal brackets , and pieced together the hardware. It led to a squeaky seat, and the brackets didnt fit the seats properly. Not to mention I had to drill a new hole for the rails.
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I ordered new Sabelt rails for the seats.
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Side by Side you can see that they are even shaped different..
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I also ordered a set of Sparco mounting bolts. Fit better, and looked much cleaner.
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Mounted up... Shout out to CR3 Motorsports for the Seat brackets!
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You can see in the photos the scratches on the side of the seat from the universal seat mounts. Much better with the proper hardware, no more squeaks and loose feel of the seat. I also added a patch of felt fabric to the bolster side, so they wont wear down when I slide in and out of the seat.
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I do not have a harness bar for traditional belts. So I had to go with the Schroth Anti-Submarine harness, perfect for any car that does not have a harness bar. It also keeps you from sliding down under the seat in case of an accident. And it also holds you in place very well!
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Late night browsing Ebay led to me finding these mirrirs. They were only $30, and I felt obligated to purchase it just because it was APC brand.
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The Mirrors fit pretty good, and looked decent. And actually much lighter then the OEM mirrors since they are manual.
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Got the hood back, and it looked a million times better! I had initially wanted to have it paint matched. But I changed my mind right before it was going to be painted.
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OEM hood 36.6 pounds.
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Carbon Fiber hood 21 pounds.
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Finished a good weekend of parts install with a photo session. Thanks for reading! Next stop I go back to Road Atlanta with JZilla Trackdays!
 
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2015 Mazda 6
Also, I do apologize if im explaining things, that we already know. This goes on my automotive site as well.
 

njaremka

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2011 MX5 GT
Is there a reason your camber plates are not even close to the same setting? Driver side looks like it has MUCH more cambers?
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2015 Mazda 6
Is there a reason your camber plates are not even close to the same setting? Driver side looks like it has MUCH more cambers?
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For some reason i can never get even camber on each side. And i can’t remember if it was like that befor or after i spun out at Road Atlanta. But i have never been able to match the camber visually with the plates on each side.. i plan on investigating it over the winter . Maybe something is bent. I have a spare front cross member.. so maybe it’s bent or something. So to be continued.. haha
 

njaremka

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2011 MX5 GT
I was just curious...

I thought I remember the Protegé not having adjustable camber, other than rotating the stock top plate. Maybe one of your control arms got bent in that excursion? Regardless, if the wheel camber matches, that's all that really matters.
 

31N007

31N007
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Mazda Protege5
I was just curious...

I thought I remember the Protegé not having adjustable camber, other than rotating the stock top plate. Maybe one of your control arms got bent in that excursion? Regardless, if the wheel camber matches, that's all that really matters.
Stock the camber can't be adjusted beyond the top plate. Add in a camber bolt and you can get some camber out of the car. Add in adjustable top hats and you gain caster and camber.

I would chase the easy stuff first; tierods and LCAs like you suggest.
 
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2015 Mazda 6
Jumping ahead of things ...but I went out and got the car Dynoed last weekend, and was happy that the car made 132hp - 137tq .

For reference i have the FSZE , EBay header , injen CAI , Lightweight Crank pulley , 626 intake manifold.

The main reason why i went was because i was able to get a real FSZE harness and ECU . And i wanted to dyno it before and after . So soon i will return and get another dyno.


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