Guide: 2nd Generation CX-9: Aftermarket oil catch can installation

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2018 CX-9 GT
I've been reading this thread with the anticipation of instilling a catch can on my '18 GT, but it seems that there is a small amount (or none as in sm1ke's case) of oil vapor being reclaimed. In reading the Mazda threads, such as this one, echoes what's being discussed above: Drive your car to operating temperatures and do get on it every once in a while. That being said, is the catch can really necessary if we drive like Zoom Zoom? :)
 

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'18 CX-9 Signature
I've been reading this thread with the anticipation of instilling a catch can on my '18 GT, but it seems that there is a small amount (or none as in sm1ke's case) of oil vapor being reclaimed. In reading the Mazda threads, such as this one, echoes what's being discussed above: Drive your car to operating temperatures and do get on it every once in a while. That being said, is the catch can really necessary if we drive like Zoom Zoom? :)
Honestly, we won't know for sure unless we get some 2nd gen CX-9 owners with 100k to do a valve inspection, and report their style of driving and their location.

With that said, some of the cars that have had serious carbon build-up issues (some Audis, 2nd generation Lexus IS250s, etc.) have shown symptoms starting as early as 30k. These symptoms usually manifest as excessive engine vibration, poor gas mileage, and decreased performance. As long as your car isn't exhibiting these systems, there's nothing to worry about. Personally, I owned a 2nd gen IS250 for a few years and never had any issues. It had 90000 miles when I sold it, and it didn't have any carbon build-up symptoms. I drove it year round, my drives were always long enough to get the engine up to operating temps, and I did let the car stretch its legs every once in a while.

With my CX-9, I drive it like the IS250. It's driven year round, my drives are always 10-30 mins long, and I like to push the engine now and then (probably more often than I should, lol). The catch can, in my case, was just a preventative measure. I honestly believe now that it has to do with the bronze sintered filter that is included on some catch cans, but not on mine. I can't think of any other reason for why I'm not collecting any blow by.
 

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https://corksport.com/mazda-6-2.5l-turbo-oil-catch-can-kit.html

It seems that there is a problem in the place where we installed, and the pipe that should be near the firewall needs to be modified.
Thanks linxiabing, the installation is indeed quite different. I'm going to purchase more supplies for this installation and try to tackle it on a warm day, then report back and update as necessary.

Just a note - this installation does appear to be correct by all accounts, as the OCC is meant to go between the PCV valve and the intake manifold port. It seems to work for other owners, maybe just not for me. But I will try this alternative method. At the very least, it looks like doing it this way will prevent any blowby from ever making it into the intake manifold via the PCV valve.
 
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https://corksport.com/mazda-6-2.5l-turbo-oil-catch-can-kit.html

It seems that there is a problem in the place where we installed, and the pipe that should be near the firewall needs to be modified.
That's definitely interesting. It seems complicated for sure. Can someone explain to me the engineering behind this install route? And that seems excessive for what it caught with 500 miles. You must have to drain it multiple times between oil change
 

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That's definitely interesting. It seems complicated for sure. Can someone explain to me the engineering behind this install route? And that seems excessive for what it caught with 500 miles. You must have to drain it multiple times between oil change
It does seem excessive. They mention that the first time the catch can is installed this way, it catches an excessive amount of blowby, and that it should be changed shortly after install. Then they say that the can should be changed every 3000 miles or few months.
 
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Thanks linxiabing, the installation is indeed quite different. I'm going to purchase more supplies for this installation and try to tackle it on a warm day, then report back and update as necessary.
Have you made any changes? I'm considering the CorkSport system for my turbo CX-5 and very interested in your results if you changed the installation method to resemble what CorkSport recommends.
 
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Mazda, 2016 CX-9 Signature
I know this thread been going on for a couple of years but I bought the Cork Sport OCC 4 months ago or so and I am just getting around to installing it. I was talking to CX9-guy and he said the bracket didn't fit on the CX-9. He addressed it to Cork Sport but they don't have a fix. They did take it off their CX-9 site. I am going to call them tomorrow but my question is Cork Sport mounts the OCC low and I have seen people mount it high by the battery box. Any issues with mounting it high?
 

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Have you made any changes? I'm considering the CorkSport system for my turbo CX-5 and very interested in your results if you changed the installation method to resemble what CorkSport recommends.
I haven't gotten around to it yet, there's actually a bunch of stuff I need to get to. The way I installed it, it still isn't catching anything more than a very thin layer of oil, but I think others have installed it the same way and had no issues.

I will see if I can get to it this weekend.
 
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There are a couple of other things happening. Engine makers are doing a much better job of designing ways of catching the oil before it goes to the intake manifold as evidenced by the catch cans catching nothing. Oil makers are improving the oil. API Service Category SN+ has lower (or no) ash additives that won't build up the deposits like older oil formulations did. The newest oil categories are:
API SP: "Introduced in May 2020, designed to provide protection against low-speed pre-ignition (LSPI), timing chain wear protection, improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons and turbochargers, and more stringent sludge and varnish control. API SP with Resource Conserving matches ILSAC GF-6A by combining API SP performance with improved fuel economy, emission control system protection and protection of engines operating on ethanol-containing fuels up to E85."

https://www.api.org/products-and-se...-and-classifications/oil-categories#tab-ilsac

Note that the new ILSAC GF-6B is only for 0W-16 oils. It has the same benefits as GF-6A.
API is the American Petroleum Institute. ILSAC is the International Lubricants Standardization and Approval Committee, mainly U.S. and Japanese automakers. Every few years the automakers, oil makers, and chemical suppliers work together to develop improved engine oil standards. In addition many engine makers have their own specs such as GM's dexos. Follow your owner's manual for oil specs, except the new specs are always compatible with the old spec and are superior. The oil spec'ed for our engines, SN and GF-5 oil, is no longer made.
 

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