Mazda caught in emissions cheating scandal
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This reminds me that when there's a stop-sale order on CX-5 back to Feb. 2016 due to the fuel filler pipe issue, many here said it's nice Mazda found the problem and voluntarily stopped the sale. Until one member found the NHTSA document and proved that it was the NHTSA who found the fuel leak issue after the rear-end collision and the CX-5 rolled. NHTSA forced Mazda to stop the sale on CX-5 until Mazda came up a solution to perform a recall.
Not just the Mazda, no corporations would admit any wrongdoings unless they have to.
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The link in the first post by OP.
MPG is 32% of my buying decision. I am Who.
MPG =/= emissions. That's the whole thing that VW got in trouble for, the MPG was there but it was producing way more in emissions than it was supposed to.
That link doesn't go to the full story anymore.. And yesterday the only detail in there was that the details would be released today (uhm)
this story has details:
https://www.motor1.com/news/261758/mazda-denies-cheating-emissions-test/
Put down the pitchforks everyone. A minor programming Error in a test machine and a small procedural error is not considered "cheating".
Looks like the only real cheating going on here is the made up news headline in the original post from yesterday.
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Ha, you seem to always find some more details. Yeah these improper conducted fuel economy and emissions tests seem minor on Mazda part. But still the "mishap" about the system not being correctly programmed, and the test procedures were incorrectly organized are still at fault by Mazda. Nobody can prove if Mazda did these intentionally or not.
"What you in here for?" LOL
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Ummmm...considering it affected 72 out of almost 1500 test cases, I think you are stretching here.
I've worked for places that purposefully programmed stuff incorrectly (before my time there). The result was $450 million payed to the feds in settlement as the nature of this purposeful "error" enabled fraud against the feds. And believe me when I say it was 100% of the time incorrect on purpose.
Took a while for it to make news here:
Mazda, Suzuki, Yamaha Admit To Improper Emissions Testing
Mazda admits to fuel economy and emissions testing errors
"The results of the investigation show some models produced at Mazda's Hiroshima Plant were inappropriately handled in 72 cases, when tested under the JC08 standard.
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The investigation found that JC08 test data containing "speed trace errors" were handled inappropriately in 72 cases out of the 1472 units tested, however no such cases were found in WLTC testing."
Mazda, Suzuki, Yamaha Admit To Improper Emissions Testing
Mazda admits to fuel economy and emissions testing errors
"The results of the investigation show some models produced at Mazda's Hiroshima Plant were inappropriately handled in 72 cases, when tested under the JC08 standard.
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The investigation found that JC08 test data containing "speed trace errors" were handled inappropriately in 72 cases out of the 1472 units tested, however no such cases were found in WLTC testing."
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What a utter beat-up.....
Yawn.....
Yawn.....
Still nothing mentioned in main stream news outlets here
Nephrology
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Listen, if there's even a remote chance that I'll get a free upgrade like VW's buyback program, I'm quite happy to be outraged too.
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Oh! Wow. Holy crap! It's almost like I told you all this, years ago...
7eregrine
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Bwahaha.
