You're an idiot. Clearly we are talking about the CRV v. the CX5 here. Fact.
Check your facts. The 1.5T does not make more power nor torque than the Mazda NA 2.5 engine.
Nope, your quote was:
No where was there a mention here of a CRV in your post. Speaking of the CRV is is irrelevant to this thread so not sure why you're bringing it up, but since you did, it has 190 HP compared to the 185/187 HP in the CX-5s. Again who is wrong here? Thought so, check those facts bro. Furthermore you can tune it to 215 HP/204-lb ft if you want to with a Hondata tune.
Hilarious to see how people love to bring up the CRV out of nowhere. Insecure much?
Anyone that thinks the 17 bis better looking is a 17 owner homer. I'd pass on the 17. Everything they changed made it look worse.
Nope, your quote was:
No where was there a mention here of a CRV in your post. Speaking of the CRV is is irrelevant to this thread so not sure why you're bringing it up, but since you did, it has 190 HP compared to the 185/187 HP in the CX-5s. Again who is wrong here? Thought so, check those facts bro. Furthermore you can tune it to 215 HP/204-lb ft if you want to with a Hondata tune.
Hilarious to see how people love to bring up the CRV out of nowhere. Insecure much?
Insecure? Seriously? We're bragging about which soccer mom car has bigger balls? lol I knew I'll see you post, anything with the word Honda or CRV will ring your bell
While the 2016 CX-5 aged very well and continued to be a class leader, especially among those who prioritize a responsive driving experience, the new version outdoes it in every way apart from fuel economy. And even then, it's not like it's now inefficient. The 2017 Mazda CX-5 is quieter, more comfortable, sharper to drive, more luxurious, better-equipped and better-looking. It's certainly hard to argue with that.
I didn't write that, but I did type it.
And the price didn't change.
It is heavier, slower, gets worse fuel economy, less cargo space than the 2016.5 and it's suspension has been softened to make it less sporty. Add in the squinty lights, chicken wire grill and pizza slice rims and you can see why there are others who would disagree it is a better vehicle.
While the 2016 CX-5 aged very well and continued to be a class leader, especially among those who prioritize a responsive driving experience, the new version outdoes it in every way apart from fuel economy. And even then, it's not like it's now inefficient. The 2017 Mazda CX-5 is quieter, more comfortable, sharper to drive, more luxurious, better-equipped and better-looking. It's certainly hard to argue with that.
I didn't write that, but I did type it.
And the price didn't change.
I don't generally agree with mango, but he's right about the 16/17 cx5. The 16 has the 17 beat in many areas that are important in a vehicle. "It is heavier, slower, gets worse fuel economy, less cargo space than the 2016.5 and it's suspension has been softened to make it less sporty". That is very true about the 17. I think many like yourself are so caught up in the "luxury and gadgets" aspects, that you lose sight of the other purely objective areas that the 17 just loses compared to the 16.
Cargo space is a big one. Losing space is a big negative for me. Ground clearance. If you ever drive in snow, you really appreciate the 16 cx5 ground clearance. Same old 2.5L that offers nothing new.
The 17 did a lot of things right but also took a step backwards in many areas that it shouldn't have.
I'm not caught up on the luxury or gadgets at all. I just can't believe Mazda was able to improve so much and add so much and still keep the price the same as the previous year model. It's pretty amazing.
Could you please explain a little?
What percentage worse fuel economy does it get?
What percentage slower is it?
What percentage smaller is the cargo area, and is that with the rear seats reclined or not?
Please explain some of the purely objective areas that the 17 "just loses" if you can.
Ground clearance, you are really stretching now. 8.5 "vs 7.6". You really going to appreciate that .9" in your next blizzard? Probably not as much as you would appreciate those "gadgets" on the '17 like heated rear seats, heating steering wheel, wiper deicer.
Same old motor makes the '17 a loser? Wouldn't that make the '16 you bought a loser?
You're like Mango Jr.
If it being slower, heavier etc was such an issue, there would be an outcry just like there was here when the first generation was only available with 2.0L engine.
Nothing like that this time
I don't believe it is an issue. Just getting stale. But still fine enough to do the job and that's all we can ask for. But I do expect improvements rather than regression. No matter how small. That's why I think in the the next couple of years, the cx5 will be even more of a hit. Including this year refinements with a better engine(hopefully?). Should be pretty nice.
(iagree) - SkyActiv X should help it immensely!
Can't wait! My CX5 is suppose to be my daily for "forever" but this new engine may be too enticing.