NY and NJ: you officially suck at driving

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i've been saying it for years after having to share the road with these maniacs and again have statistical backing - NY and NJ are the worst drivers in the nation.

probable answers to what is noted as commonly missed questions from NY/NJ drivers based on my observations:

what is the appropriate following distance? 6 inches
what does a yellow light mean? floor it



http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/05/survey-does-your-state-have-the-smartest-drivers-or-the-dumb/

41 Million Licensed Americans May be Unfit for Roads, According to Fifth Annual GMAC Insurance National Drivers Test

Most Knowledgeable Drivers in Idaho and Wisconsin, Least Knowledgeable in New York; Economic Concerns Trigger "Drive Less" Trends Across U.S.

WINSTON-SALEM, N.C - Results from the 2009 GMAC Insurance National Drivers Test released today found that 20.1 percent of licensed Americans - amounting to roughly 41 million drivers on the road - would not pass a written drivers test exam if taken today. When probed on driving behavior, 30 percent of those surveyed say financial strains have triggered a desire to drive less and seek out new ways to save money.
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Overall, findings from the fifth annual survey indicate the number of drivers with knowledge of basic road rules is decreasing, with this year's test scores lower than last year's (76.6 percent vs. 78.1 percent).

Idaho and Wisconsin drivers tied for first in the nation, with an average test score of 80.6 percent; New York drivers ranked last, with an average score of 70.5 percent. This is the second time Idaho ranked first and the second time New York has ranked last in the survey's five-year history.

"When we began this campaign five years ago, we embarked on a mission to help drivers become more aware of the rules of the road," said Wade Bontrager, senior vice president, Affinity Division, GMAC Insurance. "We've seen the results ebb and flow, and this year, scores are down. This reiterates the fact that each and every one of us need to continually be brushing up on safe driving practices."

In general, geographical regions ranked similarly to previous years, with the lowest average test scores in the Northeast, while the states in the Midwest held the highest averages. When comparing genders, men are still more likely to pass the test than women, but the gap is considerably smaller in 2009 (81 percent of males versus 79 percent of females) than in 2008 (87 percent of males versus 80 percent of females).

Respondents continued to have difficulty on questions about yellow lights and safe following distances, while almost all drivers answered correctly what a solid line meant.

Additional key findings from the 2009 GMAC Insurance National Drivers Test include:

* With Age Comes Wisdom: The older the driver, the higher the test score. Drivers 35+ years old were most likely to pass. The age group with the highest failure rates was young adults (18 to 24 years old). White males older than 45 received the highest average score.
* The Northeast had the lowest average test scores (74.5 percent), the South had the highest failure rate (41 percent). The Midwest had the highest average test scores (79 percent) and the lowest failure rates (15 percent).
* Idaho and Wisconsin replaced Kansas's 2008 ranking as most knowledgeable; New York replaced New Jersey's 2008 ranking as least knowledgeable.

Survey Says: Economic Concerns Causing People to Drive Less

In addition to the 20-question DMV exam, GMAC Insurance posed subsequent questions exploring participants' planned driving habits for the following year and their take on mileage-based auto insurance programs (pay-as-you-drive insurance). These findings reveal:

* Approximately 30 percent of drivers surveyed reported they plan on driving less within the following 12 months, with the primary reason being "worry over the economy" (74 percent). Twenty-four percent indicated they plan on driving less to "reduce expenses due to financial problems."
* Ninety-three percent of respondents had never heard of a "pay as you go insurance" pricing model for automobile insurance.
* However, one-in-three drivers (35 percent) would enroll in a "pay as you go insurance" program, such as the GMAC Insurance Low-Mileage Discount (OnStar.GMACInsurance.com), if their insurance company offered one.

State Rankings

Where are the most knowledgeable drivers in the nation? The following is a complete list of state rankings for the 2009 GMAC Insurance National Drivers Test.
1. ID 17. WA 35. KY
1. WI 19. NM 36. PA
3. MT 20. NC 37. LA
4. KS 21. VA 38. TN
5. SD 22. IN 38. MS
5. NE 22. MI 40. SC
7. UT 24. AR 40. MD
8. WY 24. TX 42. CT
8. IA 26. AL 43. FL
8. OR 26. NV 44. DC
8. MN 28. WV 45. MA
12. AK 29. IL 46. RI
12. ND 30. AZ 47. GA
14. VT 31. ME 48. CA
15. CO 32. DE 49. HI
15. MO 33. NH 50. NJ
17. OK 34. OH 51. NY

The survey, which polled more than 5,000 licensed Americans from all 50 states and the District of Columbia, is designed to gauge driver knowledge by administering 20 actual questions taken from state Department of Motor Vehicles exams. The margin of error for the total sample surveyed is 1.4 percent.

Get in the Driver's Seat: Take the Test Yourself

GMAC Insurance encourages the public to put their skills to the test at www.gmacinsurance.com. Play a quirky driving game, take the written test itself, compare your score to the national average and challenge friends to top your score via email and Facebook. Also, see how your state ranked in previous years and, most importantly, brush up on safe driving tips.

The GMAC Insurance survey was administered by TNS, a leading market information resource and the world's largest provider of custom research and analysis. The national sample was comprised of 5,183 licensed drivers in the United States, aged 16-60+. For more information about TNS, please visit www.tns-us.com.

For more information about GMAC Insurance coverage and to find a local independent agent, call 877-468-3466, or visit www.gmacinsurance.com.

The GMAC Insurance Group is one of the largest automobile insurers in the United States and is a wholly owned subsidiary of GMAC Financial Services. GMAC Insurance Personal Lines offers a variety of property and casualty products, including personal auto, RV, motorcycle, commercial auto and homeowners insurance. With a nationwide network of claims professionals, local independent agents and a 24-hour, toll-free claims hotline available 365 days a year, GMAC Insurance provides superior claims service for its customers.

About GMAC Financial Services

GMAC Financial Services is a bank holding company with operations in North America, South America, Europe and Asia-Pacific. GMAC specializes in automotive finance, real estate finance, insurance, commercial finance and online banking. As of Dec. 31, 2008, the organization had $189 billion in assets and serviced 15 million customers around the world. Visit the GMAC media site at media.gmacfs.com for more information.
 
I love meeting those SUV driving bastards on the forest roads around here with my ram...scoot the f*ck over or you're going off the side!

I also love seeing them pass me when there's 3 feet of snow on the ground, only to find them in the ditch around the next corner. hahaha 4x4 doesn't help much for stopping
 
I really dont mind LA drivers compared to NY. When I was driving through NJ and NY for the OCC meet last month I tend to agree with the GMAC report. There was some spectacular lack of driving skills displayed.

On a side note the toll roads, WTF. $8 to drive 3 miles on a chunk of poorly maintained road was a joke. What do they do with the money they rob from drivers?

Derrick
 
i've lived in nyc and frequently travel there. you guys are awful at driving. i take the train in as often as possible.
 
Honestly, they're bad in one standpoint but because everyone drives like that, they know what to expect and it's actually not bad. It's only bad when other people from other states drive there because they're not used to it. Now in probably a majority of other states, the varying age groups and degree of knowledge of other drivers makes them unsafe.

If you look at drivers from NYC area, they are actually quite skilled. Watch how they enter the tunnels, they can tell how much space they have whereas in Texas, the idiot drivers leave 3x as much space because they can't judge how far their car is from the car in front of them.

It's a different way of driving, just because the government says they're bad drivers doesn't make it true. They are in fact better drivers and I honestly wish I drove there, they have more common sense than the people that live in Texas. Big city drivers are better drivers because they are used to being in confined areas and know how to judge their space better than most of the rural cities in the US. ID and whoever was 2nd are such large states with little amounts of people that they have less chance of getting into accidents but doesn't mean they are better drivers.
 
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It's all propaganda from the insurance companies, blame who they "think" are the worst drivers. That test was easy, I got a 90 because of one of the answers being both and the other one was #20, I forgot what the question was.
 
It's all propaganda from the insurance companies, blame who they "think" are the worst drivers.
yep they just sit around and rip numbers out of their ass. that is the official job description of both actuaries as well as statisticians that work to come up with those rates.


as an interesting note:
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Average expenditure</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">1</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">D.C.</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">$1,164</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">1</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">North Dakota</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">$530</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">2</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">New Jersey</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">1,152</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">2</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">Iowa</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">536</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">3</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">Louisiana</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">1,094</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">3</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">South Dakota</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">554</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">4</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">New York</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">1,083</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">4</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">Idaho</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">577</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">5</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">Florida</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">1,069</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">5</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">Kansas</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">579</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">6</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">Massachusetts</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">1,042</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">6</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">Nebraska</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">584</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">7</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">Rhode Island</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">1,038</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">7</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">Wisconsin</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">590</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">8</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">Delaware</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">1,024</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">8</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">North Carolina</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">596</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">9</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">Nevada</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">1,006</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">9</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="left">Indiana</td><td class="iii-fb-td2" align="right">631</td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">10</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">Connecticut</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">981</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">10</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="left">Maine</td><td class="iii-fb-td1" align="right">634</td></tr></tbody></table>
so it doesn't match exactly but there are a lot of similarities, meaning these states with the drivers who have such a higher skill level also manage to get into accidents far more often than others causing their rates to go up and the states that did well on this test manage to avoid claims, driving their rates down.
 
Honestly, they're bad in one standpoint but because everyone drives like that, they know what to expect and it's actually not bad. It's only bad when other people from other states drive there because they're not used to it. Now in probably a majority of other states, the varying age groups and degree of knowledge of other drivers makes them unsafe.

If you look at drivers from NYC area, they are actually quite skilled. Watch how they enter the tunnels, they can tell how much space they have whereas in Texas, the idiot drivers leave 3x as much space because they can't judge how far their car is from the car in front of them.

It's a different way of driving, just because the government says they're bad drivers doesn't make it true. They are in fact better drivers and I honestly wish I drove there, they have more common sense than the people that live in Texas. Big city drivers are better drivers because they are used to being in confined areas and know how to judge their space better than most of the rural cities in the US. ID and whoever was 2nd are such large states with little amounts of people that they have less chance of getting into accidents but doesn't mean they are better drivers.


i totally agree... i rather be agressive than defensive because it sharpens your skills and your reaction time... i live in a small town in MI and ppl that gets in major accidents here are the one who couldnt react fast enough or very unskilled... thats why i have no problems with people like that because it really helps you be a better driver... IMO!!!
 
The larger the city, the more and better the skills needed. I see some knowledgeable driver states in the list like Wisconsin, Montana, where there are more chances to hit a cow or a deer than another car (j/k, it is the same where I live :p)

If somebody has ever driven in Mexico City, Sao Paulo, Panama City, Milan or even Paris you know what I'm talking about: Skill and fear are the order of the day :D, car rental and insurance are much more expensive there, of course.

Also, just look at the F1, Indy or the now defunct Champ Car drivers, where are many of the best drivers from? (freak)
 
yeah and that just proves all us ppl in ny are bad drivers right! lol ok

try living in nyc and then tell me how bad we are at driving! you would last 1 minute driving here.... and deff not in ur nasty ass ram..try passing a yellow cab with that piece of pile! say bye bye to ur ram!!

are you just mad you don't live in the greatest state in the country and the greatest city in the world?

i'd say you are

yep, I'm mad cause i live in a city where there's no slums, no traffic, no smog, no illegal aliens, and no faggot ass 16yo morons in the speed6 their mommy bought them posting up that he's the s*** and nyc rules all even though their schooling sucks as evidenced by your failing of english class since you can't even write a proper sentence. hahahaha get a clue.
 
(upbum) Ohhh Testosterone....... There is plenty of reasons to support both sides! Living in Vermont Traffic is minimal compared to big cities. Yet i have driven on the Jersey Turnpike (Heard it was terrible to drive on) and it was easy driving for the most part! There were a few crazy drivers though, but more good then bad!
 
not for long, ID has been getting swamped with people trying to escape from CA, and they bring their bad driving with them.

that's exactly what's been happening here in austin....it blows and not in the good way
 
hey cellerator.....people in tx just don't drive with common sense.....everyone always has to get into the lane that ends thinking they have the right of way when merging back into the correct lane.....everyone loves to go from the entrance ramp straight to the left lane(3 lanes wide here in austin) and then go 50 in a 65 or vice versa....

all it takes to drive is common sense.....i drive a yellow p5 and i have been ran off the road more times than i can count by(sorry for this) women(old and young) while looking right at me and either on a cell or talking to someone
 
hey cellerator.....people in tx just don't drive with common sense.....everyone always has to get into the lane that ends thinking they have the right of way when merging back into the correct lane.....everyone loves to go from the entrance ramp straight to the left lane(3 lanes wide here in austin) and then go 50 in a 65 or vice versa....

all it takes to drive is common sense.....i drive a yellow p5 and i have been ran off the road more times than i can count by(sorry for this) women(old and young) while looking right at me and either on a cell or talking to someone

Yeah, they really don't, I really get tired of all the morons there. Or the ones that will just make a right turn onto the road you are on in front of you when you're going 50mph. I usually don't get run off because I'm usually in front of all the traffic so that I won't get stuck near people like that.
 
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