Higher Mantaince ?

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erhayes

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2022CX5 PP

• Dec 28, 2018

• #1

Couscous that the turbo version has Spark Plug replacement at 40K miles vs 75K miles. I would think that the newer plugs are capable of lasting much longer than 40K. I don't think other Turbo engines require that frequent plug changes but, I haven't checked other manufactures recently. Ed

 

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jthj

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2017 CX-5

• Dec 28, 2018

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From my experience they do actually. There is a lot more heat and pressure with a turbo. You also generally need to run cooler plugs which can foul more easily.

 

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Unobtanium

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RDX Aspec Adv.

• Dec 28, 2018

• #3

erhayes said:

Couscous that the turbo version has Spark Plug replacement at 40K miles vs 75K miles. I would think that the newer plugs are capable of lasting much longer than 40K. I don't think other Turbo engines require that frequent plug changes but, I haven't checked other manufactures recently. Ed

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My 2.5 NA motor, I did the plugs on it around 80K or something and they were just fine. Probably could have gone well over 100K. I've not owned forced induction vehicles before t hough, and that is a different animal. Honestly though, if plug replacement is a factor...

 

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erhayes

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2022CX5 PP

• Dec 28, 2018

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I just checked my MAZDA 2.3 turbo engine in my CX7 and the spark plug change interval is 75,000 miles.

 

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jthj

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2017 CX-5

• Dec 28, 2018

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The ecoboost is 100k but a buddy of mine who is a mechanic says they are routinely fouled and causing driveability issues around 60k. He recommended 40k if stock and 20k if tuned.

 

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Kedis82ZE8

'15 CX-5 AWD GT w/Tech Pkg

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• Dec 28, 2018

• #6

I wonder if we will see these laser based spark plugs in the next 5 years or so?

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2018PQE....58....1P

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...to-zap-engines-into-running-more-efficiently/

 

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SA Bill

• Dec 28, 2018

• #7

Frickin' laser beams!

 

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erhayes

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2022CX5 PP

• Dec 28, 2018

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Dealers will love it when plugs are to be changed at 40K miles with $25/plug? prices. Ed

 

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Monterra

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'16.5 JBM CX-5 AWD GT tech, '19 Veloster N

• Dec 28, 2018

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I suppose- did mine in 20 minutes for about $30- that was @87k due to a misfire- and it wasn't the plug(s) it was a coil over plug that was at fault- plugs looked ok.

 

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jthj

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2017 CX-5

• Dec 28, 2018

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Yea plugs arent that expensive and are easy to change. Seems like a non issue to me in the grand scheme of car ownership.

 

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Buzzman12

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Ottawa, Ontario

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16 Lexus RX350
23 Kia Stinger GT Elite

• Dec 28, 2018

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The laser plugs sound really neat.
I happened upon a car show the other day on TV, and they were installing these 3d spark plugs that I had never seen or heard of. Looked really cool.
If you google 'brisk 3d spark plugs' you'll get a short video on them and see the difference.
I'd be curious to know how much increase in efficiency these bring to the table.

 

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Unobtanium

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RDX Aspec Adv.

• Dec 28, 2018

• #12

jthj said:

Yea plugs aren*t that expensive and are easy to change. Seems like a non issue to me in the grand scheme of car ownership.

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It's not like an LT1 F-body, that's for sure!

 

7eregrine

The man, the myth, the legend

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Land of Cleve

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2016.5 CX5

• Dec 28, 2018

• #13

Saabs recommended plug interval was 60 in both the NA and Turbo.

 

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erhayes

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2022CX5 PP

• Dec 28, 2018

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It appears that many turbo engines require plug changes at 60 to 100,000 miles EXCEPT for the MAZDA. Genuine Mazda spark plugs are not cheap even on the NA engine. I agree it is a minor thing in the scheme of things but, it will be an fairly expensive annoyance, especially for those who must depend of the dealer. Ed

 

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jthj

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2017 CX-5

• Dec 28, 2018

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At least with Ford it should be lower. Im going to have to check my VW but I think its 40k also.

 

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erhayes

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2022CX5 PP

• Dec 28, 2018

• #16

Mazda spark plugs at dealer are $24.xx each PY8V8110 FOR 2019 CX5 T.

 

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Unobtanium

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RDX Aspec Adv.

• Dec 28, 2018

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erhayes said:

It appears that many turbo engines require plug changes at 60 to 100,000 miles EXCEPT for the MAZDA. Genuine Mazda spark plugs are not cheap even on the NA engine. I agree it is a minor thing in the scheme of things but, it will be an fairly expensive annoyance, especially for those who must depend of the dealer. Ed

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Near anyone can do plug changes. Hell, i dont do oil or cabin filter and I still do my own plugs. 100 bucks from the dealer. Easy peasy.

 

yrwei52

2016 Mazda CX-5 GT AWD w/Tech Pkg

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Plano, Texas, USA

• Dec 29, 2018

• #18

Unobtanium said:

Near anyone can do plug changes. Hell, i dont do oil or cabin filter and I still do my own plugs. 100 bucks from the dealer. Easy peasy.

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~$100 is the cost for parts only on spark plugs. MSRP on PY8V-18-110 spark plug for 2.5T is $31.42 each. Thiss the price most Mazda dealers would charge to customers for 2.5T spark plugs. Labor is additional.

Yeah maintenance cost on 2.5T definitely will be higher.

 

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erhayes

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2022CX5 PP

• Dec 29, 2018

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I've ALWAYS preformed all maintenance on my vehicles, ie tuneups, brakes, timing belt replacement etc. You get the idea, but, at 80+ years old, I do have difficulty bending over for the length of time required to do a spark plug replacement. I suspect that a dealer will charge ~ $300 for a spark plug change and an independent will do $250 using factory plugs. Not a deal killer or much in the big picture but, irritating. Ed

 

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Unobtanium

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RDX Aspec Adv.

• Dec 29, 2018

• #20

yrwei52 said:

~$100 is the cost for parts only on spark plugs. MSRP on PY8V-18-110 spark plug for 2.5T is $31.42 each. This*s the price most Mazda dealers would charge to customers for 2.5T spark plugs. Labor is additional.

Yeah maintenance cost on 2.5T definitely will be higher.

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By about $40ish every 50-60K miles. I can stomach that.