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ManMachine
04-12-2012, 04:39 PM
March 2012: 3,629 in the U.S. 1,649 in Canada. 8,000 from mid Feb to mid March in Japan and diesel accounts for 73%.

That sales figure for Japan is quite impressive, although it's well known that new vehicles in Japan tend to do very well early on and then fall off sharply.

smithsm1984
04-12-2012, 07:24 PM
Those are terrible numbers, but they're probably constrained by availability. There are still only a few CX-5s at each dealer in my neck of the woods and only 31 within 50 miles of my zip code (according to Mazda USA website).

I've yet to see one on the road.

Alacoyote
04-12-2012, 08:18 PM
I agree that availability may be the reason for the relatively low sales in the U.S. to date but check out this article today from Edmunds.com. In March the CX-5 had the third best "days to turn" (11) of all vehicles in the U.S., that is, on average the vehicle only stays on the lot for 11 days before being sold. So, it remains to be seen whether it will continue to be a hot seller once it becomes more readily available but it's certainly doing well for now.

http://www.edmunds.com/industry-center/analysis/quick-whats-the-fastest-selling-car-in-america.html

inodes
04-12-2012, 09:59 PM
I think the sales figure for February in Australia was 850. We are roughly 1/15th the size of the US in population to put this figure into perspective.

Mazda said they expected 80% Petrol and 20% Diesel sales (similar to Japan's expectation of 90% Petrol sales). The actual sales are reversed though, with 80% of sales being Diesel.

My dealer said they're having issues getting rid of the Petrol stock, but Diesel orders are already pushed out to August.

I think with all non US/Canada markets predominantly choosing the Diesel over the Petrol, it will hopefully have a knock on effect and Mazda will be able to push the excess Petrol stocks over to the US/Canada instead.

VK Sefirosu
04-12-2012, 10:32 PM
I have only seen one other CX-5 on the road so far here, but my dealer said when they delivered mine (3 weeks ago) that most if not all of their first shipment of about ~8 was already sold with more on the way. I have to call them soon for a few thing so I'll make sure to ask how sales are going ;)


I think with all non US/Canada markets predominantly choosing the Diesel over the Petrol, it will hopefully have a knock on effect and Mazda will be able to push the excess Petrol stocks over to the US/Canada instead.

Or/and hopefully convince Mazda to try bringing the diesel over here earlier with all those sales in other countries.

inodes
04-12-2012, 11:32 PM
I have only seen one other CX-5 on the road so far here

You'll see more. If I remember correctly, Canada has the highest ownership per capita of Mazda's anywhere in the world. The way things are going in Australia, we're catching (Mazda 3 was highest selling vehicle here last year with Mazda being the highest sold pure importer in Australia - I dare say figures that are replicated in Canada).


Or/and hopefully convince Mazda to try bringing the diesel over here earlier with all those sales in other countries.

It will happen eventually. But with the fuel economy most are getting on the Petrol, it looks like it's a bloody awesome purchase.

cptkloss
04-13-2012, 09:41 AM
where did you get "8000" number in Japan from? I was browsing Mazda's press release section and found this:

[Domestic sales of key models in February 2012]
Mazda2 (Demio): 5,905 units (up 13.6% year-on-year)
AZ-Wagon: 2,791 units (up 32.8% year-on-year)
Mazda3 (Axela): 1,742 units (up 11.5% year-on-year)
CX-5: 684 units

more here:

http://www.mazda.com/publicity/release/2012/201203/120329a.html

p.s. looks like maybe sales just started in late february there? hence only 684 sold... will be interesting to see March numbers

VK Sefirosu
04-13-2012, 09:48 AM
You'll see more. If I remember correctly, Canada has the highest ownership per capita of Mazda's anywhere in the world. The way things are going in Australia, we're catching (Mazda 3 was highest selling vehicle here last year with Mazda being the highest sold pure importer in Australia - I dare say figures that are replicated in Canada).

I can't speak for the rest of Canada, but at least here in my city and neighborhood Mazdas are very much everywhere, mostly Mazda3s but all models are well represented, and I live in a not so large city.


It will happen eventually. But with the fuel economy most are getting on the Petrol, it looks like it's a bloody awesome purchase.

That will be interesting to see...

inodes
04-13-2012, 09:55 AM
where did you get "8000" number in Japan from? I was browsing Mazda's press release section and found this:


http://www.mazda.com/publicity/release/2012/201203/120315a.html

HIROSHIMA, Japan—Mazda Motor Corporation today has announced that since its sales launch in Japan on February 16, 2012 orders for the all-new Mazda CX-5 reached approximately 8,000 units as of March 14. The result is more than 8 times the monthly sales target of 1,000 units.

inodes
04-13-2012, 10:02 AM
I can't speak for the rest of Canada, but at least here in my city and neighborhood Mazdas are very much everywhere, mostly Mazda3s but all models are well represented, and I live in a not so large city.


My brother-in-law comes from BC. Visiting his family, I noted Mazda's everywhere. It was obvious.
In my mind, I thought there was only one city I've been to where I saw a greater number of Mazda's on the road.... Hiroshima :)

ManMachine
05-07-2012, 03:08 PM
April 2012: 3,521 units sold in the U.S.

Obviously CR-V and Escape are the volume sellers in the segment. Is CX-5 production limited? I think it could easily sells 6-7K.

GAXIBM
05-07-2012, 03:58 PM
Mazda North America April YTD sales up 21% - see:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mazda-sales-up-more-than-21-percent-year-over-year-2012-05-01

smithsm1984
05-07-2012, 04:06 PM
The CX-5 is on lists of cars that move the quickest off dealer lots right now, so it is currently constrained by supply.

CX-SV
05-08-2012, 12:48 PM
Both local dealers in heart of Silicon Valley are sold out of CX-5's. Inventory at all Bay Area dealerships is very low. Strangely I've only see one other CX-5 on the road since I bought mine in mid-March. Given the inventory turns at local dealerships, I expect to see plenty soon.

erhayes
05-08-2012, 02:42 PM
My local dealer had 3 unsold on the lot as of yesterday. I have seen 2 on the road.

smithsm1984
05-08-2012, 02:42 PM
I have yet to see another CX-5 on the road. I've been looking but no dice so far.

inodes
05-08-2012, 08:03 PM
I see at least 2 to 3 per day. But at that rate in Sydney, it means that Ferrari's, Lamborghini's and Aston Martins are more common.

Won't take long though. They've sold triple the expected rate.

inodes
05-08-2012, 08:08 PM
Why are Mazda sales so low (per capita) in the US compared with Canada and Australia (which are similar markets).
I'd expect more CX-5 sales too.

This article says it all:
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2012/05/top-10-underappreciated-cars-and-trucks.html

Top 10 Underappreciated Cars and Trucks (US Article)

Mazdas

Which one? Virtually all of them. Throughout Mazda's U.S. history, some models have been originals and some have been versions of Fords, but almost all have underperformed despite delivering on the company's fun-to-drive claims. The RX-7, compact 323 and Protégé were favorites of ours, as is their successor, the Mazda3. The midsize Mazda6 sedan, which was adapted to create the Ford Fusion, saw one-seventh of the Ford's sales in 2011. We'd also take a Mazda2 over the related Ford Fiesta. Wake up, America!

The underperformed refers to sales - not actual performance.

VK Sefirosu
05-08-2012, 08:40 PM
Why are Mazda sales so low (per capita) in the US compared with Canada and Australia (which are similar markets).
I'd expect more CX-5 sales too.

I'm starting to see a few here. 5 in the last few days with one of them being an obvious test drive, and that is only during my daily commutes/errands so far, so there is maybe/probably more out there here when I'm not on the road and I live in a city of about 50k. I'm actually not too much surprised about this here but it took a little while to see them, probably supply and demand…

smithsm1984
05-09-2012, 12:39 PM
Why are Mazda sales so low (per capita) in the US compared with Canada and Australia (which are similar markets).
I'd expect more CX-5 sales too.


You just don't see a lot of ads here for Mazda stuff. They usually run something when a new model comes out, and then it all fades away. There aren't that many dealers, and most of them are smaller than dealers from major brands.

Mazdas also tend to be perceived as underpowered and uncomfortable. Most Americans will take a Rav4 with a V6 over a CX-5. So what if the Rav4 cries the moment you show it a curvy road? We don't have a lot of those here. Plus, the theory that you can avoid a crash by accelerating is popular.

CX-SV
05-09-2012, 12:42 PM
Yes, but still most Americans select the 4 cylinder Rav4 over the V6.

My local dealerships (2) just received a dozen CX-5's, maybe I'll see more on the road soon...

geocord
05-09-2012, 03:09 PM
The CX-5 has only been for sale here in the U.S. for a little over a month so it's not suprizing to see few on the road. Availability has been a problem too. My Mazda dealer says that they probaboy have lost a lot of sales to CRV because of it and also a lot of people are waiting to compare it to the upcoming new Escape.

Mazda, as a brand, is a fairly small player here as well. I had never owned one before our present Mazda6 and that's including over 35 cars/trucks. Since new it only had one very, very minor problem and that was fixed at the time of the first oil change and 80k miles later still not one repair, just normal routine maint/tires/brakes. I consider Mazda, as a brand, to be kind of a sleeper and I mean that in a good way.

ManMachine
05-09-2012, 06:37 PM
April 2012, Mazda sold 1,515 units of CX-5 in Canada, less than half of the U.S.

I think the exchange rate of yen vs. USD makes selling them in the U.S. not a very profitable thing to do.

bamirault
05-09-2012, 10:40 PM
April 2012, Mazda sold 1,515 units of CX-5 in Canada, less than half of the U.S.

Yes, but sales at 50% of US ain't bad when population is at 10% of US.

Brian

inodes
05-09-2012, 11:17 PM
Australian sales were 1400 for the month. But that is for a country with less people than California.
To sell the same per capita, the US would need to sell 21,000 CX-5's per month.

inodes
05-09-2012, 11:18 PM
Mazdas also tend to be perceived as underpowered and uncomfortable. Most Americans will take a Rav4 with a V6 over a CX-5.

I've driven many Toyotas and many Mazdas.
There is no comparison. Mazdas are a superior product in so many ways.

Lando
05-10-2012, 12:10 AM
My local dealerships (2) just received a dozen CX-5's, maybe I'll see more on the road soon...

I have been monitoring Sacramento, CA area and Oregon inventory. There has got to be a huge restocking soon. My three local dealers (Sacramento, Roseville, Elk Grove, CA) have 7 CX-5s. They have 26 Mazda2s and 21 MX-5 (Miata). The Oregon dealers - entire state - have 8 CX-5s in stock. It appears that Mazda was not quite ready for this level of positive response from the west coast of the US.

Hey Mazda, send more!

PJO
05-10-2012, 01:14 AM
I have been monitoring Sacramento, CA area and Oregon inventory. There has got to be a huge restocking soon. My three local dealers (Sacramento, Roseville, Elk Grove, CA) have 7 CX-5s. They have 26 Mazda2s and 21 MX-5 (Miata). The Oregon dealers - entire state - have 8 CX-5s in stock. It appears that Mazda was not quite ready for this level of positive response from the west coast of the US.

Hey Mazda, send more!

There is a shipment coming in tomorrow, with mine!

Lando
05-10-2012, 01:29 AM
There is a shipment coming in tomorrow, with mine!

When I move to Redmond in a few weeks, I'll be ready to buy. Since the Bend dealer has a $2500 dealer markup, I will be looking elsewhere. Let us know about your purchasing experience. From Redmond, all the Oregon dealers are only a few hours away, so I am willing to travel. Hopefully, there will be many CX-5s to choose from by then.

Congrats on your new ride!

inodes
05-10-2012, 02:13 AM
The CX-5 is on lists of cars that move the quickest off dealer lots right now, so it is currently constrained by supply.

We're constrained as well. Orders going in now, have August delivery dates.

inodes
05-10-2012, 02:14 AM
For the record, the CX-5 is the 30th highest selling locally made car in Japan. That puts it into perspective how many models they have to choose from.

PJO
05-24-2012, 02:13 PM
New CX-5 sales numbers. Looks like it's doing pretty well!
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/prnewswire/press_releases/California/2012/05/24/LA13087

ManMachine
06-01-2012, 02:51 PM
May 2012 U.S. sales: 3,973

nizzy1115
06-01-2012, 03:05 PM
I've still only seen one other on the road...black touring.

CX-SV
06-01-2012, 03:50 PM
I too am amazed at how few I actually see on the road around here and this is a lucrative import-intensive market. I know all the dealers sell the CX-5's very quickly and have a hard time keeping more than a few in stock. I've seen 3 besides mine since I bought in mid-March, although I expect they will be common soon enough.

PJO
06-01-2012, 04:14 PM
It's starting to pick up. I've seen 3, besides mine, in the last few weeks.

kampfire
06-01-2012, 04:48 PM
Ive only seen one on the road by me in Western Michigan and it was a grey Sport.

Canadian-ES-GT
06-01-2012, 07:44 PM
I've seen quite a few... maybe 50 or so. But they may have been the same actual car since I often do the same journey at around the same time.

Compared to the new CRV, its about 1 CX-5 to 4 CRVs in my area. Could be better i guess.

joepro
06-01-2012, 10:28 PM
Geez, I commute from Laval to downtown Montreal every day and I've only seen 3. And another one on I-87 near Albany.

ManMachine
07-05-2012, 01:34 PM
June U.S. CX-5 sales: 4,551

Exspeedaway
07-05-2012, 02:31 PM
CX-5 continued strong sales with 1,284 units sold in June in Canada.

Canada population: 34 millions
U.S. population: 313 millions
Just to show how good the CX5 is doing in Canada.

Since the launch of the 3 in 2003 Mazda is everywhere almost on par with Civic and Corolla in Canada.
IMO the 3 is a better entertaining car than Civic and Corolla, better looks, equipement, power and handling.
With my new CX5 this is our 4th Mazda between me and my GF and no complaints so far except for the smokey turbo on my speed3 that was change under warranty.

Now with the new "Skyactiv" technology Mazda will fix the most noticeable drawback of it's fleet, worst than average consumption.
I test drove a Mazda3 "skyactiv" they other day just for fun and it's almost on par with my GF Mazda3 sport 2.5 in terms of performance and get's a lot more MPG.

So now if they bring the new 2.2 diesel in north america it will be a sure hit.
I just have to find a way to trade in my 2.0 for the diesel without losing to much.

Article about sales of Mazda in Canada:

http://www.newswire.ca/fr/story/1003511/mazda-canada-sales-increase-3-in-june-2012

mikeregister
07-05-2012, 03:16 PM
Here is a good article I found that has the actual sale numbers for the United States for all Mazda makes as of two days ago. The CX-5 is doing fairly well compared to the rest of the Mazda's for the little time it's been on the market.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mazda-skyactiv-technology-vehicles-exceed-sales-expectations-2012-07-03

Gio26NJ
07-05-2012, 03:51 PM
There's also this article http://wot.motortrend.com/ford-escape-king-of-june-crossover-sales-honda-cr-v-leads-year-to-date-228211.html

Still don't get how Ford Escape and Chevy Equinox make it to the top of these lists. Test drove majority of these cars and it came down to choosing Honda CR-V, Nissan Rogue, and Mazda CX-5 and made the obviously better choice, but the thing is buying a Ford or Chevy did not even cross me or my wifes mind as we were testing these vehicles.

EricF
07-05-2012, 05:34 PM
There's also this article http://wot.motortrend.com/ford-escape-king-of-june-crossover-sales-honda-cr-v-leads-year-to-date-228211.html

but the thing is buying a Ford or Chevy did not even cross me or my wifes mind as we were testing these vehicles.

Us either. We have enough friends who own fords and chevys (and chryslers) to know we didn't want one. LOL

hollis
07-05-2012, 05:51 PM
40% of Ford Escape sales are from the old / outgoing model year then account more for fleet sales...

I imagine that CX-5 sales are being held back by shear production limitations. While Mazda wants to sell them in USA, remember they get better margins in other countries where Yen is stronger.

Aviboy97
07-07-2012, 01:17 PM
40% of Ford Escape sales are from the old / outgoing model year then account more for fleet sales...

I imagine that CX-5 sales are being held back by shear production limitations. While Mazda wants to sell them in USA, remember they get better margins in other countries where Yen is stronger.


Almost all of the Escape sales are the 2012 models and Ford has already been loading rental agencies with the 2013 models.

Mazda can produce more CX-5's, they just under estimated the demand off the rip. They have increased production as we speak. That being said, I do believe the sales numbers would be higher if there was inventory to choose from. Supply is still very limited. Can't get GT's at all.