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Larry0103
03-30-2012, 11:21 PM
Hi all! just got my new zeal red cx-5 last monday, absolutely love it!
Here is just one thing i'm not really sure about my istop function, when I picked up my car last monday, master warning light was on and istop was flashing yellow, dealer explained as the battery was not fully charged at that time. I drove around 30kms on monday night and the master warning light turned off and istop light became constantly green. but on Wednesday afternoon, when I started my car, the master warning was back on again and istop was flashing yellow. Has anyone came across this situation before? Is this normal? Thanks

hooked
03-31-2012, 12:07 AM
Sort, can't help with your problem. Just wanted to say congrats on your new car. You're the only other person I've seen with a zeal red cx-5.

Sounds like a call to your dealer to set it right.

Larry0103
03-31-2012, 03:10 AM
Thanks, the warning lights were off this afternoon, however, the green istop light was not on neither... by the way, I've seen a white GT version on street today, it's my first time see a CX-5 driving on the road rather than myself XD

hooked
03-31-2012, 07:55 AM
Someone said in another post that it takes a while for the computer to intake enough driving data to determine when to apply the i-stop. I'm not sure if that is every time you drive or overall.

I have not seen any other CX-5s on the road yet even though they've been selling like hotcakes.

inodes
03-31-2012, 08:31 AM
Hi Larry,

Was looking into all the details of i-stop today. A complex technology it seems. I'm almost going to have to remember the list of complexities that make it decide to work or avoid working. Nevetheless, it was a blessing in stop-start traffic.

Just got delivery of my black GT yesterday, and ended up doing Sydney to Port Kembla (and a lot of Sydney traffic) to figure it all out.
The key is to make sure you press the i-stop button and have no amber light on your dash. One the engine is warm, and you end up going it takes a while (engine warm) for it

The complete list is in the manual, but for the benefit of US readers, I'll post it (it's not included in US vehicles yet).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennstewart/6885719058/in/set-72157629532767321
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennstewart/7031816467/in/set-72157629532767321

My first mistake that caused i-stop not to work, was not closing the tailgate. i-stop doesn't work if you have a door open.
There are many other reasons on the list, but in normal driving (particularly in urban stop-start), it works tremendously well.

Larry0103
03-31-2012, 10:23 AM
Hi Larry,

Was looking into all the details of i-stop today. A complex technology it seems. I'm almost going to have to remember the list of complexities that make it decide to work or avoid working. Nevetheless, it was a blessing in stop-start traffic.

Just got delivery of my black GT yesterday, and ended up doing Sydney to Port Kembla (and a lot of Sydney traffic) to figure it all out.
The key is to make sure you press the i-stop button and have no amber light on your dash. One the engine is warm, and you end up going it takes a while (engine warm) for it

The complete list is in the manual, but for the benefit of US readers, I'll post it (it's not included in US vehicles yet).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennstewart/6885719058/in/set-72157629532767321
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennstewart/7031816467/in/set-72157629532767321

My first mistake that caused i-stop not to work, was not closing the tailgate. i-stop doesn't work if you have a door open.
There are many other reasons on the list, but in normal driving (particularly in urban stop-start), it works tremendously well.

Hi Glenn, thanks for the information, I did read that "istop" part in the manual, actually there was one day istop worked well, stopped every time I pressed my brake completely, however the flashing yellow warning light back on and istop stopped afterwards. Has your dealer told you you have to drive around to get your battery charged up in order to get istop functional? cause on the day I picked up my car, master warning light and istop warning light were on, and dealer explained as battery needs to be charged up, i'm not sure if that's the case.

cfrank2012
04-05-2012, 03:48 AM
Hi Larry, been driving my CX5 now for over 3 weeks. Still getting used to the style of driving to minimise fuel consumption and maximise performance. Overall getting 8.4l/100Km, so am rapt. Can't say the same for I stop which seem to come and go as it pleases. Works well when its on. Dealership thinks it may be a flaky battery, after a quick check in service department. Will post when I get more info.

inodes
04-05-2012, 11:20 AM
Hi Larry, been driving my CX5 now for over 3 weeks. Still getting used to the style of driving to minimise fuel consumption and maximise performance. Overall getting 8.4l/100Km, so am rapt. Can't say the same for I stop which seem to come and go as it pleases. Works well when its on. Dealership thinks it may be a flaky battery, after a quick check in service department. Will post when I get more info.

Hoping you get it sorted. Really liking i-stop, particularly in traffic. I am changing my driving to suit though. I find that I am slightly lifting my foot off the brake if I think the light is about to go green. I find that I don't press brake hard if I don't require i-stop (it only kicks in if the conditions are right and the brake is pushed in a very deliberate and firm manner - like being stationary at a light).

Larry0103
04-12-2012, 07:14 AM
Hi Larry, been driving my CX5 now for over 3 weeks. Still getting used to the style of driving to minimise fuel consumption and maximise performance. Overall getting 8.4l/100Km, so am rapt. Can't say the same for I stop which seem to come and go as it pleases. Works well when its on. Dealership thinks it may be a flaky battery, after a quick check in service department. Will post when I get more info.

Hi, thanks for your reply, my Istop worked ok last weekend when I drove to Ballarat, but just gone again after I back to Melb. I've spoke with the dealer and booked a inspection next week, hope things can be fixed. I had looked up on a forum the other day, people saying the issue comes from the battery, the link is here you can have a look: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1859508

inodes
04-12-2012, 10:16 AM
Larry,

Trying to memorise the list of i-Stop conditions myself. The computer must really have to weigh up everything. The programmer put as many checks into i-Stop as I would into my own code.

For example, if you don't close all the doors properly then start the engine, the computer disables i-Stop for that whole trip. The only way to make it work is to stop the car, stop the engine, close the doors and start again.

But if you do all those thing, use enough brake pressure - then i-Stop should work all the time.

In Sydney traffic, i-Stop works for me nearly all the time. It also seems to know the exact time I feel like pouncing off the line because it measures such things as pressure on the steering wheel and brake.

It's a very clever (and possibly expensive) system.

Larry0103
04-17-2012, 01:40 AM
Larry,

Trying to memorise the list of i-Stop conditions myself. The computer must really have to weigh up everything. The programmer put as many checks into i-Stop as I would into my own code.

For example, if you don't close all the doors properly then start the engine, the computer disables i-Stop for that whole trip. The only way to make it work is to stop the car, stop the engine, close the doors and start again.

But if you do all those thing, use enough brake pressure - then i-Stop should work all the time.

In Sydney traffic, i-Stop works for me nearly all the time. It also seems to know the exact time I feel like pouncing off the line because it measures such things as pressure on the steering wheel and brake.

It's a very clever (and possibly expensive) system.

Hi, thank you for your information and here is an update of my car. I sent my car to the dealer this morning to get istop fixed, they called me in the afternoon says there is a problem with the battery taht they couldn't fix and they have ordered a new battery for me, I'm quite upset now didn't expect this to happen on a brand new car, I'm putting my hope on this coming new battery, and wishing not to get disappointment again.

inodes
04-17-2012, 01:48 AM
I'm quite upset now didn't expect this to happen on a brand new car, I'm putting my hope on this coming new battery, and wishing not to get disappointment again.

I think you'll find the engineers might not yet be fully informed on how i-stop does and doesn't work.
When you get it back, start from a very basic position and do tests. I think the complexitiy of it requires an Excel spreadsheet detailing conditions just to get it to work.

My wife has been often commenting on the time i-stop refuses to work.
Ironically for it to work perfectly, when conditions are correct it should refuse to work.

The latest one I learned for example is setting either climate controls to a max or min temperature (e.g. 18C). Set it to 18.5, and it's fine.

Then there is the long list I am memorising: If the fan is max, i-stop is disabled. If the windscreen is receiving air-con, i-stop is disabled. If you're on a hill, i-stop is disabled. If the brake isn't engaged fully, i-stop is disabled.

I'm slowly learning them all, and there is no clear indicator for what condition is being met at the time i-stop is disabled.

Painful. But remembering the list, I am slowly starting to be in control of when it does and doesn't activate.

Stormy Blue
06-13-2012, 03:10 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum, i've had my CX-5 for 2 weeks and covered just over 1000 miles. My istop 'flashing' warning light has come on twice, once during the first week and tonight. Switching the engine off resets the flashing amber warning. I have noticed that the istop function does not work until I switch istop off and then on again. When the warning light came on tonight on my drive home, I noticed istop came on (green) then went amber then green, all this happened in a split second, then istop flashed until I switched the car off and then back on. It is worth knowing that I had travelled approximately 50 miles (motorway) on both occasions and that the air con etc is off, so there is nothing draining the battery.
Once reset everything works fine again.
I'll take my car to Mazda and have it checked out but expect car will be too new for engineers to do much, unless it logs the error within the diagnostics.

pauly69
06-13-2012, 04:53 PM
Hey buddy I live near you (Cheshire)!
Anyway, I too have found that istop has a mind of its own and in my case has only activated 3 or 4 times in the couple of weeks I have had the car. No warning lights that I have noticed, just gonna let the accumulated knowledge build a little and see how it goes. Interesting point above about brake pedal pressure, I will have to try a firmer press when I stop at lights etc.

pauly69
06-13-2012, 04:56 PM
Ooh stormy blue, see my thread in suspension about car pulling right, let me know if yours is ok, although mine is auto. Would also appreciate you checking your rear view camera reversing guidelines to advise if they are straight when wheels straight ahead?
Sorry off topic (whistle)

jd5503
06-15-2012, 10:13 AM
Also if the steering wheel is not straight at stop istop will not engage.

desssa
06-16-2012, 01:31 AM
well 1000kms old and i have a battery light followed by a flashing amber istop light.... yay

Alintenshi
06-26-2012, 08:38 AM
I just got my cx-5 last Tuesday ( 1 week ago today) and have had a few problems already. First day we took it out for a drive the tire pressure light came on on the highway, so we stopped and waited a bit and checked the pressure and 1 of them had 0.3 more then the specs, I fixed it and moved on. The second day we took another drive and the Start-stop didn't work.I assumed it has a battery problem seeing how the battery must keep the systems going so i just kept driving. 3rd day we didn't drive it. 4th day the car would not start...the battery had died... so we call Mazda road assist and a person shows up in 20 minutes with a portable battery and connects it, and the car starts and works without any problems.We drove about 400 km that night.... 5th day no problems, 6th day the car was saying " battery system inspection required" so we decided to take it in today for a check.... this morning the car would not start ...again... i called Mazda and they sent another guy with another portable battery and the car started up fine... i took it to the garage and have to wait till Thursday for the result.. sorry for the long post but I'm pretty upset about all this. I wanted to mention that i took care to make sure all the systems were off, all the doors closed all the lil lights were off and so on...its was kept in a garage box locked.... i don't understand why the battery keeps dieing.

Anyone else had similar problems ?

Alintenshi
06-27-2012, 08:58 AM
It seem that problem has been fixed.... it was 1/1000 chance of a bad battery witch shorted out. The battery has been removed and the car seems to be working fine.Only drove about 10 km today but the i-start works ok.

Stormy Blue
07-13-2012, 05:08 PM
Hi pauly69,
I've had no problems with car pulling right. It may sound basic but have you checked your tyre pressures, mine were all different when i checked after the first week after collecting from the dealer! The reversing camera appears to be accurate any problems I believe to be due to myself just getting used to it. I'll check the direction of my wheels next time I reverse.
Going back to the istop problem, my car has cut out one more time since. And after a motorway trip last week, after I came off the slip road onto a roundabout with traffic lights, the engine suddenly went racing of it's own accord, it sounded as if it was not firing on all cylinders, it made no difference when I depressed the clutch. I just had to wait a for the engine to settle ( held up traffic) and once it went back to normal I was ok without further incident.
Today while driving engine warning light (Engine inspection required )has come on perminanently and is booked in with RRG forMonday. Something's not right, which is disappointing because I am pleased with car except for these minor issues.

PhoenixINX
07-14-2012, 12:32 AM
Enough of the i-stop chatter... us here in the colonies are getting a bit jealous!!! ;)

pauly69
07-14-2012, 09:15 AM
Hi pauly69,
I've had no problems with car pulling right. It may sound basic but have you checked your tyre pressures, mine were all different when i checked after the first week after collecting from the dealer! The reversing camera appears to be accurate any problems I believe to be due to myself just getting used to it. I'll check the direction of my wheels next time I reverse.
Going back to the istop problem, my car has cut out one more time since. And after a motorway trip last week, after I came off the slip road onto a roundabout with traffic lights, the engine suddenly went racing of it's own accord, it sounded as if it was not firing on all cylinders, it made no difference when I depressed the clutch. I just had to wait a for the engine to settle ( held up traffic) and once it went back to normal I was ok without further incident.
Today while driving engine warning light (Engine inspection required )has come on perminanently and is booked in with RRG forMonday. Something's not right, which is disappointing because I am pleased with car except for these minor issues.

Thanks for the update. I have a separate thread in the tires section about my problem - long story short the dealer fixed it after unnecessarily mucking about with tracking and finally being advised by Mazda Japan how to reset the steering angle sensor (which feeds power steering, camera, reverse camera, istop etc). Now the car steers just fine.
Good luck with the dealer, if RRG are like my dealer they are very much still learning as they go when it comes to the CX5. Took several visits to dealer before they resolved it.

Kiwi-CX5
07-27-2012, 12:56 AM
I've had my CX-5 for 2 months and done 6500kms. I-stop was fine for about the first 3 weeks but now won't activate. It coincidentally stopped working at the same time I first pressed the switch to turn it off (when I was idly waiting for my wife one day!). My dealer has no idea but will check it out when it goes in for it's 10,000km service. Just updated the navigation today so that now it uses kilometres rather than miles. Other than that it has been running fine. Will be towing my race car on trailer with it on Sunday which will be the first time I have towed with it so looking forward to seeing how well it tows.

Stormy Blue
07-27-2012, 08:32 AM
Up date on my CX5. Cutting a long story of disappointment short. It has been with the dealer since the 16th July, Mazda Japan are involved. The error logs have been interrogated, the EMU has been updated (this hasn't fixed it). The regional expert has been to the dealership to take a look. The latest is that another CX-5 of the same specification is to be delivered on Monday 30th to use to bench mark my car against and to swap parts over...not great. The concern seems to be the engine racing and not being able to do anything to stop it, although the problem cannot be replicated, it must have shown up along with all the istop problems in the error logs. I'll keep everyone posted. It has took the shine of the new car experience that is for sure.

Dan13l
08-24-2012, 06:42 AM
Hi all sorry for hijacking the thread haha but I have Just recently purchased a brand new CX5 and was just wondering when I picked the car up the Istop icon on the dash was not illuminated until I pushes the button but now the amber light is constantly illuminated and when I hit the button it turns green, I'm just wondering if when I turn it off should the Istop icon be constantly illuminated amber as it never was when I brought the car?

prhac
08-24-2012, 02:39 PM
Hi all sorry for hijacking the thread haha but I have Just recently purchased a brand new CX5 and was just wondering when I picked the car up the Istop icon on the dash was not illuminated until I pushes the button but now the amber light is constantly illuminated and when I hit the button it turns green, I'm just wondering if when I turn it off should the Istop icon be constantly illuminated amber as it never was when I brought the car?

When I turn my istop off, it is shown as amber. If I press again (so as to turn it back on), the lettering is 'invisible' i.e. cannot be seen. It is not green. On restarting the car, the istop word is again invisible i.e. it is 'on'.

Zeal-Girl
08-26-2012, 02:05 AM
Hi all sorry for hijacking the thread haha but I have Just recently purchased a brand new CX5 and was just wondering when I picked the car up the Istop icon on the dash was not illuminated until I pushes the button but now the amber light is constantly illuminated and when I hit the button it turns green, I'm just wondering if when I turn it off should the Istop icon be constantly illuminated amber as it never was when I brought the car?

Hi Dan13l... I found that initially (I have had my car 3 days now) the i-stop wording was either amber, or if I turned it off the writing disappeared all together. At this point the i-stop did not work at all.

When I managed to clock up 300 km on the dot, suddenly the i-stop activated and started working, the i-stop word is now always green when on and if I turn it off the writing goes amber.

hbowly
08-29-2012, 12:29 AM
Hi all! just got my new zeal red cx-5 last monday, absolutely love it!
Here is just one thing i'm not really sure about my istop function, when I picked up my car last monday, master warning light was on and istop was flashing yellow, dealer explained as the battery was not fully charged at that time. I drove around 30kms on monday night and the master warning light turned off and istop light became constantly green. but on Wednesday afternoon, when I started my car, the master warning was back on again and istop was flashing yellow. Has anyone came across this situation before? Is this normal? Thanks

My iStop just stoped working by itself as well.... the dealer delivery told us it's something that is always turned off unless turned off for that journey only.... will let you know if I come across something (wow)

Pittsy
08-29-2012, 02:28 AM
My i Stop didn't work until the Car clocked up about 250 km's or so.

Now works well.

Pittsy
09-03-2012, 06:09 AM
The i Stop stopped working most of today and then started working later on!! The Batt Amps must have dropped earlier on?

Stephengar
12-12-2012, 08:26 AM
The i Stop stopped working most of today and then started working later on!! The Batt Amps must have dropped earlier on?

I-stop - and hill assist (I have a manual) on my car work very intermittently mostly not at all - the only way we can get this to function more consistently is to turn radio and complete heater function off. One thing we have noticed that daytime side lights go off when you pull on the handbrake. Battery has been tested and is okay - and the hazards don't always flash when arming the alarm. Its booked in to the dealer.

Bclar
12-13-2012, 04:53 PM
OKAY, I give up. What is I-stop? I find no reference to it in the manual

CX-SV
12-13-2012, 05:32 PM
Idle stop shuts down vehicle's engine automatically when the car is stationary and restarting it when the driver resumes driving. Not currently available on Mazda CX-5's sold in US market.

tarapajero1
01-29-2013, 07:27 AM
I think...Your car dealer might be right, the battery was not fully charged that's y istop was flashing yellow.

DaveM
02-08-2015, 03:38 PM
Hi Dave from NZ, bought a Mazda 3 sedan brand new from Capital Mazda five months ago. It was this or a brand new Corolla. Great car love it but the i-stop has now practically given up the ghost. Took it to the dealer and they said basically get used to it as the battery has to be charged up to 75%. They say I am not driving it enough, and to get the i-stop working I should do longer trips. So what they are saying if I drive to work which is 28kms, not far enough go the long way round do twice the distance and the green light might come on. That is totally Chinese, to save fuel I have to go twice the distance. Totally not acceptable. I have read the manual and know how the system works and has been great for the first five months. Just doing small trips around locally I won't achieve this 75% is seems. It is now been followed up by Capital Mazda - they have tried to fob me off, but sorry they've chosen the wrong person. Thinking I should have gone for the Corolla now. Any ideas. It has a Q85 battery by the way. They mentioned a battery stabiliser - what does that entail? They even suggested I disconnect the battery and charge it in the garage. No way. My 74 Kombi and my Corolla which has done 400,000 kms don't need that so not doing it top a brand new car. Any ideas?

ALafya
02-08-2015, 09:54 PM
I hope you are able to find a resolution for your info.
You might want to also post in the Mazda 3 section in this site or take a look at whirlpool archives (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2258953) for the same problem.

Heritage07
02-09-2015, 06:32 AM
Does anyone know if istop works on an angle or only straight on? In other words if you are at a stop street that angled to the road you are turning right on and the car in front of you is angled ready to creep out and suddenly jams on its brakes. Will istop work if you also started to pull out behind him since the rear of their car would be at an angle?

brandini
02-09-2015, 10:24 AM
Hi Dave from NZ, bought a Mazda 3 sedan brand new from Capital Mazda five months ago. It was this or a brand new Corolla. Great car love it but the i-stop has now practically given up the ghost. Took it to the dealer and they said basically get used to it as the battery has to be charged up to 75%. They say I am not driving it enough, and to get the i-stop working I should do longer trips. So what they are saying if I drive to work which is 28kms, not far enough go the long way round do twice the distance and the green light might come on. That is totally Chinese, to save fuel I have to go twice the distance. Totally not acceptable. I have read the manual and know how the system works and has been great for the first five months. Just doing small trips around locally I won't achieve this 75% is seems. It is now been followed up by Capital Mazda - they have tried to fob me off, but sorry they've chosen the wrong person. Thinking I should have gone for the Corolla now. Any ideas. It has a Q85 battery by the way. They mentioned a battery stabiliser - what does that entail? They even suggested I disconnect the battery and charge it in the garage. No way. My 74 Kombi and my Corolla which has done 400,000 kms don't need that so not doing it top a brand new car. Any ideas?

Listen to them.

i-stop can't work on a cold engine or you'll wear it out really fast. The snowflake only shows you coolant temperature, oil takes about 10 miles to fully come up to temperature, and it is what protects your engine when it stops and starts. If it operated as you wanted it to, it'd be like driving a regular vehicle and literally stopping and restarting the engine at every long light on cold oil, which is the worst possible thing you can do for engine wear.

DaveM
02-09-2015, 01:03 PM
Strange then that it worked OK during the winter but not now in summer and I'm driving 28km to work and back and the green light never comes on.

brandini
02-09-2015, 02:52 PM
Summer = more AC usage

The compressor is still engine driven so if the engine shut off you'd get lovely hot moist air

dad of jon
02-11-2015, 06:55 PM
Hi Larry,

Was looking into all the details of i-stop today. A complex technology it seems. I'm almost going to have to remember the list of complexities that make it decide to work or avoid working. Nevetheless, it was a blessing in stop-start traffic.

Just got delivery of my black GT yesterday, and ended up doing Sydney to Port Kembla (and a lot of Sydney traffic) to figure it all out.
The key is to make sure you press the i-stop button and have no amber light on your dash. One the engine is warm, and you end up going it takes a while (engine warm) for it

The complete list is in the manual, but for the benefit of US readers, I'll post it (it's not included in US vehicles yet).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennstewart/6885719058/in/set-72157629532767321
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennstewart/7031816467/in/set-72157629532767321

My first mistake that caused i-stop not to work, was not closing the tailgate. i-stop doesn't work if you have a door open.
There are many other reasons on the list, but in normal driving (particularly in urban stop-start), it works tremendously well.

Yes there are quit a few conditions that influence i-stop working or not.

when the car has warmed up,if you have windscreen full demist on or full cold aircon, it doesn't come on, but then changing to windscreen and feet will activate it, if not turning off the fan or low to one or two bars usually triggers it. If the battery is getting drained by too many electricals that will also determine if it operates or not. Also it won't come on during a DPF regen even with everything else turned off.

So warm engine, no electricals on and stationary but no i-stop = regen in progress!

henry_workshop
07-12-2015, 11:30 PM
Hi all! just got my new zeal red cx-5 last monday, absolutely love it!
Here is just one thing i'm not really sure about my istop function, when I picked up my car last monday, master warning light was on and istop was flashing yellow, dealer explained as the battery was not fully charged at that time. I drove around 30kms on monday night and the master warning light turned off and istop light became constantly green. but on Wednesday afternoon, when I started my car, the master warning was back on again and istop was flashing yellow. Has anyone came across this situation before? Is this normal? Thanks

Hi bro,i have done this i-stop problems of cx5 2.5L 2009.the matter is only about the battery.because the cx5 is semi hybrid car.so they must use the eco battery to.i use hitachi issq.85. This batt have an intelegent stuff inside the batt.so it can make the batt quick to full of charge, and can hold the voltage upper than 12.6v (in the off condition engine). Because the voltage limit of batt in cx5 is 12.5v in the off condition engine,if less than 12.5, the altenator will rise up the voltage until 14.5v.that can make your altenator burn.so if your i-stop blink in yellow colour and your main warning light is up, you must go to the battery shop to check your batt.
Thanks..Henry

jona0329
09-03-2015, 10:05 AM
Hi everyone,

I have Mazda CX 5 over two years.
Then suddenly, master warning light went on, then can't see any i-stop green light anymore.
I read a few Forums, many people point out to battery issue.

Then I realize that we SUPPOSE to check the water level for Mazda battery, as it's not maintenance free.
And I found the water level is below average. So I just top up the water in the battery.

I-stop is back alive. So try this if you i-stop suddenly die for no reason.
I don't think you even need someone to check out the battery for you, and just charge you by topping up the water for you.
Top up water in the battery. I am sure everyone can do it.
If you top it up, i-stop still can't work.
Then I guess it is more likely it's your battery problem.
But give it a go, see if it works for you.