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Allan Ostling
03-27-2012, 05:46 PM
I'd like to start reading the owner's manual for the CX-5. This can answer some of my questions, such as: how easy is it to change the oil filter?

Has the manual been posted anywhere, as a .pdf file?

candf
03-27-2012, 05:58 PM
Go to Mazdausa.com. On top click on Owners. Then Manuals & Reference. They have one there for the CX5.

Alacoyote
03-27-2012, 06:20 PM
How easy is it to change the oil filter?

The manual does not provide any instruction on how to change the oil or filter; it only provides that 0W-20 fully synthetic oil should be used and that a certified Mazda facility should change the oil. However, I too would like to know if the oil & filter change is an easy DYI project, given how much shops often charge for synthetic oil changes (unless your local dealer is good enough to offer a special). My guess is that none of us owners have put enough miles on our vehicles yet (first recommended change is 7500 miles) to have faced this issue directly.

However, one way to save some bucks is to buy your own oil & filter and then just pay the labor portion to the shop. Wal-Mart sells 5-quart jugs of Mobil 0W-20 fully synthetic oil for about $26.50 (the FWD CX-5 requires 4.4 quarts) and Fram makes a compatible oil filter (Model No. PH-6607) that Wal-Mart also sells for about $4.50. So, if you can find a shop who'll perform the labor for $15 - $20, you should be able to save quite a bit versus the $65 - $85 some shops charge for synthetic oil & filter changes. Just be sure to check Walmart.com to see which, if any, of your local stores stock the 0W-20 oil in the 5-quart jugs, as it is not carried in every store but provides great savings (compared to the individual quart bottles, which run about $6.50 - $8.50 each, depending on where you buy).

vfrguy
03-27-2012, 06:45 PM
Fist of all I would never use a Fram oil filter. Those filter are pure crap. If I was to change it myself I would be using a Wix filter. I would also never allow Walmart to touch my car. I have heard of plenty of stories where they have damaged the filter housing, plug, and even left oil out of the engine. I know that can happen anywhere but I'd rather that happen at tw dealer so if a catostrophic failure did happen the dealer could deal with it.

When I was shopping for my CX5 the Mazda dealers around me all offered the first 8 services free of charge. Just FYI.

Allan Ostling
03-27-2012, 07:50 PM
Go to Mazdausa.com. On top click on Owners. Then Manuals & Reference. They have one there for the CX5.

I'm grateful for the link to the .pdf. Now, as others have said, we still don't know how easy it will be to get to the oil filter. I would never take any car to a dealer for an oil change, nor would I let any untrained grease monkey do the job. I want to do it myself, as I have for the last 56 years.

I am currently a Forester owner, considering the CX-5. The latest Subarus have the filter located on top of the engine, surrounded by a concentric tray to catch any drips during change-over. This is an idea I hope catches on.

Alacoyote
03-27-2012, 08:12 PM
Fist of all I would never use a Fram oil filter. Those filter are pure crap. If I was to change it myself I would be using a Wix filter. I would also never allow Walmart to touch my car. I have heard of plenty of stories where they have damaged the filter housing, plug, and even left oil out of the engine. I know that can happen anywhere but I'd rather that happen at tw dealer so if a catostrophic failure did happen the dealer could deal with it.

When I was shopping for my CX5 the Mazda dealers around me all offered the first 8 services free of charge. Just FYI.

First, I certainly wasn't endorsing Fram filters, just pointing out that there are alternatives to the Mazda OEM filter already available (as I believe that this same filter size is already used on one or more existing Mazda models). Second, I did not suggest having Wal-Mart actually change the oil and filter, just that the oil and filter could be purchased there; I'm pretty confident that they can sell you the supplies without touching your vehicle... Unfortunately, I did not purchase our CX-5 locally, so we couldn't avail ourselves of any service deals the dealer was offering (pretty sure the 500-mile drive would offset any savings), but more power to those who can snag such deals.

vfrguy
03-27-2012, 08:26 PM
I just went outside and snapped some pictures. Let me get them uploaded and I'll put them up in a few minutes.

vfrguy
03-27-2012, 08:50 PM
If looking under the passenger side of the vehicle there is a triangular panel with two 8mm bolts(or Philips head) and one plastic clip.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1273.jpg
Take the two bolts out and the clip off.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1267.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1268.jpg
Then you have access to the oil filter and drain plug(Hex bolt).
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1271.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1270.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1269.jpg
I dont have a hex bolt that big so I am not sure of the size, but it is a fairly simple oil change.

Sorry the car is dirty.

Allan Ostling
03-27-2012, 08:55 PM
it is a fairly simple oil change.


It is, indeed. Thanks for the photos.

cptkloss
03-27-2012, 09:03 PM
Sorry the car is dirty.

Oh man! you didnt wash underneath your car?!? shame!!

Allan Ostling
03-27-2012, 09:38 PM
First of all I would never use a Fram oil filter. Those filter are pure crap.

They used to be. There was a tear-down test online about fifteen years ago, which showed that to be the case.

I've been using SuperTech filters for years, Walmart's brand – these were rated highly in that old test. But last month Walmart finally pulled the plug on the ST filters – they are sold no more. Walmart now stocks the Fram Tough Guard, and this is what I bought. It looked really well-made, but I remembered the bad reputation of Fram, so felt let down.

I feel much better after reading this: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/eating-crow-fram-oil-filters-my-visit-frams-r-d-facility-dayton-ohio-1261517/. You will draw your own conclusions, but it does appear that Fram has changed for the better.

gusman1
03-27-2012, 10:03 PM
Thanks for showing the location of oil filter. I tried find it from the top of engine compartment with no luck and the bottom of the engine bay was sealed. I am glad you opened the bottom panel and showed the location of oil filter and drain plug. There is no mention of the location of that in the owner's manual.

vfrguy
03-27-2012, 11:01 PM
They used to be. There was a tear-down test online about fifteen years ago, which showed that to be the case.

I've been using SuperTech filters for years, Walmart's brand – these were rated highly in that old test. But last month Walmart finally pulled the plug on the ST filters – they are sold no more. Walmart now stocks the Fram Tough Guard, and this is what I bought. It looked really well-made, but I remembered the bad reputation of Fram, so felt let down.

I feel much better after reading this: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/eating-crow-fram-oil-filters-my-visit-frams-r-d-facility-dayton-ohio-1261517/. You will draw your own conclusions, but it does appear that Fram has changed for the better.


Regardless of what Fram has done in their company, I will never buy a product from Fram again. When I was 16 and worked at an auto parts store I changed my oil using a Fram filter on my 1990 Accord. It was something I had done several times with no issues. I had the filter bust the seam on that car once and luckily I was able to catch it before it did any damage. At that time I was working at an auto parts store and was able to convince to cut open the filters we carried and put them on display as a selling point. After the disassembly of all of the filters the Wix was by the best product. Anytime I change my oil on my own that is what I use and will always use. And that was 13 years ago. I sent the filter back to Fram and they said that it was a manufacturers defect in that filter. Again that's just something that happened to me and why I will not use them.

Alacoyote
03-28-2012, 10:51 AM
Thanks for the excellent photos, vfrguy; it looks like the oil and filter change would be a fairly easy DIY job. Sorry your Fram filter experience has been haunting you for 13 years. After further research, I probably won't use the Fram ExtraGuard filter sold at Wal-Mart, as it is at the low end of Fram filters. Better options seem to be the Mobil 1 (model M1-108) or Wix (model 57040). Another option is the OEM filter, which my local dealer sells for $6.30 each or a 5-pack with a wrench for $33.65: http://www.mazdaparts.org/gemacxma.html

dhaslbeck
04-26-2012, 09:53 AM
I asked the salesman about hte filter. He said it is up between the motor and firewall. With the flat panels mounted on the bottom ofhte car, it might be a bit more of work to get to the filter than my old Rav4 but if the shop can do it, so can you. As for Oil and Filters, i encourage folks to search the web. I found several articles by industry and university professionals going into detail about both (actually bisecting the filters). After reading these I agree with the previous poster (and a commercial on TV recently) that Fram filters are garbage. They use cardboard for the back plate on the filter where the bypass valve is. Really? Cardboard to mount an oil pressure bypass valve in a filter?? From the last article I read, filters from Mobil1 and STP/Champion (which interstingly enough includes Walmart Super Tech filters) were better. Go look for "Oil Comparison" and "Oil Filter Comparison" on the web and read up. For what it's worth, my dealer gave me lifetime oil changes but I have to either pay the difference for synthetic.
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CX-SV
04-26-2012, 10:50 AM
The Mazda oil supplied by Mazda service department for CX-5 oil changes is full synthetic.

geocord
04-26-2012, 12:41 PM
I asked my Mazda service mgr about this and he said they made a bulk buy on synthetic oil in anticipation of the CX-5 and that they would be charging $5 more per oil change than a regular oil change. They run coupons all the time via email to customers and in snail mail flyers for $29.95 all the time. So it appears, at this dealer anyway, that it will be easy to get a synthetic oil change for around $35.

Puja McGriddle
04-30-2012, 03:24 PM
Am I understanding what I'm seeing in vfrguy's pix - a vertical oil filter?
And is the drain plug parrallel to ground or angled downward at all?

plemieux
05-01-2012, 12:32 AM
http://www.mazdaparts.org/gemacxma.html

Thank you so much for this website! Good deals on factory equipment. Yay!
http://www.insanejournal.com/userpic/5736664/94461

Elby
08-13-2012, 10:22 PM
This is great. A car that I can actually do an oil change on again. How many cars I'v owned and i couldn't reach the oil filter, I can hardly count. Thanks for the photos and info.

aeglaeca
09-27-2012, 02:41 PM
For any questions about oil or any type of lubricants, I always go to BITOG (www.bitog.com). They know a lot more than me.

CX-5-2013
04-18-2013, 09:10 PM
Anyone have a torque value for the drain plug?

MikeM.
05-07-2013, 03:54 PM
Better options seem to be the Mobil 1 (model M1-108) or Wix (model 57040). Another option is the OEM filter, which my local dealer sells for $6.30 each or a 5-pack with a wrench for $33.65: http://www.mazdaparts.org/gemacxma.htmlThat is not the correct Wix filter model for any of the Skyactiv engines. It will fit but the bypass valve is rated at too low of a pressure differential. Skyactiv engines call for a high flow filter. Correct Wix number is #72002 which was recently made available specifically for Skyactiv engines (which have different lubrication systems than previous Mazda engines).

Surfsup
02-16-2014, 06:56 PM
The manual does not provide any instruction on how to change the oil or filter;

I don't buy a car unless they throw in the "service manual", not the owner's manual. The owners manual is worthless imo.

halfast3
02-17-2014, 03:04 AM
If looking under the passenger side of the vehicle there is a triangular panel with two 8mm bolts(or Philips head) and one plastic clip. [snip photos] I dont have a hex bolt that big so I am not sure of the size, but it is a fairly simple oil change. [snip]
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the drain plug looks like an 8mm (or perhaps 10mm) Allen.


I don't buy a car unless they throw in the "service manual", not the owner's manual. The owners manual is worthless imo.
I feel the same way but not all manufacturers make service manual books available any more. They're too costly to print and very expensive to keep current. Not sure about Mazda but the last VW Factory Service manual for the Golf was for >2009, the previous generation to ours.

xtrailman
02-17-2014, 04:46 AM
Manuals are on eBay on disc.

trustyrusty436
04-05-2014, 08:02 PM
The drain plug is an 8mm, the bolts that hold the cover on are 8mm. My Dealer wants $35 for a dino oil change and $65 for a synthetic oil change. So as easy as this car is turning out to be to work on I did the oil change myself. 0W20 Castrol oil synthetic and a Bosch filter, the filter is a bit pricey so I'll probably go with something cheaper next change. It went a little over 5k miles and I'll probably change it sooner next time, the car is just starting to get loosened up.

erhayes
04-05-2014, 08:20 PM
My dealer says they use a synthetic but, I see it comes from a bulk tank marked Castrol GTX and the 0w20 is a blend. So when they say synthetic you need to ask if 100% or a blend. Ed

ErgoZoom
04-05-2014, 09:11 PM
The drain plug is an 8mm, the bolts that hold the cover on are 8mm. My Dealer wants $35 for a dino oil change and $65 for a synthetic oil change. So as easy as this car is turning out to be to work on I did the oil change myself. 0W20 Castrol oil synthetic and a Bosch filter, the filter is a bit pricey so I'll probably go with something cheaper next change. It went a little over 5k miles and I'll probably change it sooner next time, the car is just starting to get loosened up.
As far as I can find, all 0W-20 oils are at least partially synthetic. There should be no option for a dino oil change on these engines in the US. I'd reconsider your dealer if he's suggesting something that is counter to Mazda's specs.

CC58
04-05-2014, 10:16 PM
As far as I can find, all 0W-20 oils are at least partially synthetic. There should be no option for a dino oil change on these engines in the US. I'd reconsider your dealer if he's suggesting something that is counter to Mazda's specs.

Other cars recommend initial break-in with non-synthetic oil so engine parts can seat and loosen up. I would bet the initial oil in the CX-5 isn't synthetic. If engine is not allowed to seat and loosen up then it remains tight and MPGs do not improve because engine never breaks-in. Technology changes, and not sure about the CX-5. Its amazing how little wear occurs in engines with synthetic oil.

ErgoZoom
04-05-2014, 10:34 PM
Other cars recommend initial break-in with non-synthetic oil so engine parts can seat and loosen up. I would bet the initial oil in the CX-5 isn't synthetic. If engine is not allowed to seat and loosen up then it remains tight and MPGs do not improve because engine never breaks-in. Technology changes, and not sure about the CX-5. Its amazing how little wear occurs in engines with synthetic oil.

This has been investigated. Mazda uses the Idemitsu GF-5 oil for factory fill at production. So in this case, it is the same oil as the Mazda 0W20 with Moly they recommend (that's the rebranded version of Idemitsu.) No dino oil is used for the Skyactiv engine. The Castrol blend that is allowed now is a recent change (last year)

CC58
11-08-2014, 12:28 AM
If looking under the passenger side of the vehicle there is a triangular panel with two 8mm bolts(or Philips head) and one plastic clip.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1273.jpg
Take the two bolts out and the clip off.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1267.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1268.jpg
Then you have access to the oil filter and drain plug(Hex bolt).
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1271.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1270.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/vfrguy/DSCN1269.jpg
I dont have a hex bolt that big so I am not sure of the size, but it is a fairly simple oil change.

Sorry the car is dirty.

When I changed CX-5 oil myself for the first time, and above pictures were very helpful. Didn't use a ramp, just crawled under there. Its tight, but doable. Used that new Shell Pureplus synthetic made from natural gas. Thanks for the pics vfrguy.

big-w
02-17-2016, 12:10 AM
I like to change my oil myself. I believe that nobody cares as much about your car as you do. So, it that vein ... when doing your own oil changes on the CX-5, did you guys use ramps, floor jacks, or just crawl under? Thanks.

GAXIBM
02-17-2016, 12:15 AM
I angle cut a 2x10, doubled it and added a short 1x8 on top and drive the front tires up on it. It gives plenty of room and is cheap and safe.

yrwei52
02-17-2016, 04:21 AM
I angle cut a 2x10, doubled it and added a short 1x8 on top and drive the front tires up on it. It gives plenty of room and is cheap and safe.+1
If you don't jack up front a bit, it'd be very tight. Also, jack up the front will help oil drained more completely.

erhayes
02-17-2016, 08:19 AM
I use ramps to elevate my CX5 for the oil change. You will need an 8mm long arm allen wrench or better is a 8mm X 3/8 socket to use with a 3/8 ratchet. I use a cap wrench (Fram purchased at Walmats). Additionally; you need the usual drain pan for > 5 quarts, screw driver, rags etc. Have fun. Ed