Matrix/Vibe Supercharger

jaman · 09-16-2003, 12:06 PM

This might belong in off-topic.

I was considering buying the Vibe/Matrix 'cause I knew that a supercharger would be coming out. Well here it is, and boy am I glad I got a 2003 P5 instead.

http://www.matrixvibe.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3567

Summary: 7.5 psi with 166hp @ 6800rpm and 145 lb.-ft. @ 4000 RPM, $2640 (includes injectors and ECU flash). By the way, these are not power ratings at the wheels, it's all at the crank!!

BSN_mt · 09-16-2003, 12:32 PM

Just my two cent, but when I was looking at the Matrix, the XRS (What ever) that had the variable timing system was making like 180 horsepower, is the supercharger only available to the lower grade models?

Captain KRM P5 · 09-16-2003, 12:34 PM

the supercharger is for the 130 hp Corolla engines in the lower model Vibes/Matrices only. Wish they would have made something for the 180 hp Celica engine in the GT/XRS

tonkabui · 09-16-2003, 12:39 PM

seeing as how the msp got from 140-170hp, this is the same thing, i think. well, minus the niceness of the protege line. most manufacturer performance parts are very conservatively tuned.

Darin · 09-16-2003, 01:56 PM

IMO, It'd be fun to swap the 180hp Celica GTS motor into a Matrix.

THEN supercharge THAT one.

What turned me off from EITHER car is, to get the AWD model, you have to take the slow engine, AND ATX.

Side note:

Those numbers are 8hp MORE, and 15ft-lbs LESS than my Probe GT had AT THE WHEELS - with only a CAI and GReddy catback! :P

ddogg777 · 09-16-2003, 04:50 PM

The standard engine has 10:1 compression whereas the xrs engine has 11.5:1. You ask why they don't supercharge the higher compression engine!? You wouldn't be able to run much psi before you detonated...

Darin · 09-17-2003, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ddogg777
The standard engine has 10:1 compression whereas the xrs engine has 11.5:1. You ask why they don't supercharge the higher compression engine!? You wouldn't be able to run much psi before you detonated...

so?

11.5:1 IS a boostable CR, with the right systems in place. I can promise you, 5psi on an 11.5:1 CR engine, is MUCH better than 6 or 7 psi on a 10:1 CR engine.

ddogg777 · 09-17-2003, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darin

...with the right systems in place.

You said it...$$

Captain KRM P5 · 09-17-2003, 10:26 AM

Quote:

IMO, It'd be fun to swap the 180hp Celica GTS motor into a Matrix

the matrix XRS and vibe GT already have that engine

Darin · 09-17-2003, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain KRM P5
the matrix XRS and vibe GT already have that engine

derp! I got confused - which happens easily

I was thinking MR2 + GTS Motor....

Thanks for catching that!

09-16-2003, 12:06 PM	#1
jaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississauga Posts: 173	Matrix/Vibe Supercharger This might belong in off-topic. I was considering buying the Vibe/Matrix 'cause I knew that a supercharger would be coming out. Well here it is, and boy am I glad I got a 2003 P5 instead. http://www.matrixvibe.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3567 Summary: 7.5 psi with 166hp @ 6800rpm and 145 lb.-ft. @ 4000 RPM, $2640 (includes injectors and ECU flash). By the way, these are not power ratings at the wheels, it's all at the crank!!

09-16-2003, 12:32 PM	#2
BSN_mt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Coeur d'Alene Posts: 92	Just my two cent, but when I was looking at the Matrix, the XRS (What ever) that had the variable timing system was making like 180 horsepower, is the supercharger only available to the lower grade models? __________________ p5 mod's what ever i can afford

09-16-2003, 12:34 PM	#3
Captain KRM P5 P1kaChu Haz P4rts 4 yU0 Donated: $15 Authorized Vendor 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Grayslake, IL Posts: 28,549	the supercharger is for the 130 hp Corolla engines in the lower model Vibes/Matrices only. Wish they would have made something for the 180 hp Celica engine in the GT/XRS __________________ *Phone - (847) 736 1635* Email - ProtegeGarage@gmail.com Your Mazda Connection - Now Carrying more than 1200 performance products for the following vehicles; *Protege :: Mazdaspeed Protege :: Mazda3 :: Mazdaspeed3 :: Mazda6 :: Mazdaspeed6 :: Miata :: Mazdaspeed Miata :: CX-7 :: RX-8 :: RX-7*

09-16-2003, 12:39 PM	#4
tonkabui Little Asian Member 2002.5 protege5 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 4,043	seeing as how the msp got from 140-170hp, this is the same thing, i think. well, minus the niceness of the protege line. most manufacturer performance parts are very conservatively tuned. __________________ if i were an enzyme i would be DNA helicase so i could unzip your genes if i was endoplasmic reticulum, how would you want me: smooth or rough?

09-16-2003, 01:56 PM	#5
Darin Marca dos para el español Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 539	IMO, It'd be fun to swap the 180hp Celica GTS motor into a Matrix. THEN supercharge THAT one. What turned me off from EITHER car is, to get the AWD model, you have to take the slow engine, AND ATX. Side note: Those numbers are 8hp MORE, and 15ft-lbs LESS than my Probe GT had AT THE WHEELS - with only a CAI and GReddy catback! :P __________________ 06 Legacy GT spec.B \| Invidia Catless Divorced DP \| OpenECU \| Cobb STS 04 Rx8 \| TEIN Coilovers \| RB Intake/Catback \| MS Flywheel Last edited by Darin; 09-16-2003 at 01:58 PM.

09-16-2003, 04:50 PM	#6
ddogg777 Baby replaced my P5! WAH! 2002 Yellow P5 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hot arizona! Posts: 2,624	The standard engine has 10:1 compression whereas the xrs engine has 11.5:1. You ask why they don't supercharge the higher compression engine!? You wouldn't be able to run much psi before you detonated... __________________ 2002 Protege5 for sale, 31000 miles. "...for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them." --Ether 12:27

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