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Old 10-29-2009, 10:01 AM   #16
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untuned was how i bought it...the car was a lot of fun under rod #1 grenaded through the front and back of the block...i am getting 5K back from my taxes again this year...having two kids has it's benefits but then again it doesn't have its benefits lol
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:23 PM   #17
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You should actually consider a Standback. Not just because I am selling one but because I think they are much more tuner friendly.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:36 PM   #18
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You should actually consider a Standback. Not just because I am selling one but because I think they are much more tuner friendly.
hows the install of the standback, is it easy to do, and will any shop do it? Who can tune the car with a standback system?
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:19 AM   #19
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hows the install of the standback, is it easy to do, and will any shop do it? Who can tune the car with a standback system?
Its very simple. I sent you a pm so you can read more into it but I am telling you the standback is the way to go. Anyway to everyone else reading this to answer his ?!
The standback takes ten minutes to install because it comes with a PNP connector so it can be easily removed and put back. Iti is a very easy mod and Any tuner can tune it. I was once told that this was the most simple software the tuner had used. Not only that but if you contact cp-e they will teach how you to tune the standack yourself. The problem with cobb is that thier maps are universal and not tuned specifically for your car. I have heard of many issues when using cobb. I mean come on the company isn't even selling any more parts. Stand back is the way to go and a new one runs for 900 but you get what you pay for. But I am selling mine for 600. ANYWAYS don't take my word for it look it up and educate yourself.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:25 AM   #20
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The standback tricks the ECU into seeing things that aren't there...the AP actually changes the tables. You decide which route you'd rather take.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:31 AM   #21
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dont you need mad things for the standback...like a pnp conector and a this and a that to get the full setup????? how much would a custom tune be....sanch can you pm that info too
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:57 AM   #22
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Tricking Yes but having something thats universal I am not sure. The Ap may not trick your ecu but it isn't designed exactly for you specifically. Cobb doesn't make most of thier parts for our platform anymore. With a standback you can have diffrent parts. Lets say you have a fmic with a cheaper company it has to be cobb's front mount because that is what they are tunning for. Although I am postive the give a lot of room for error its just not as good as being able to do thing specifically and accordingly. So many people made the switch if you go on the **************** they will tell you the same thing. Not saying this forum isn't great because it is but the people on that forum are just straight all about modding the car to its full potiential. YOu can't get full potiential out of the cobb you can only get as far as the guy from cobbs car can. I am sure it is a great piece and I am not hating on it but for a real car enthusianst CP-E Standback is the way to go.
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:00 AM   #23
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It isn't hard to find one used for 550-650 Brand new they run to be 800 but yeah. For a used one it comes with the pnp and the standback and no you don't need mad things. Again I am not trying to be a salesman I can give a shit if you buy my part or buy it brand new but I am telling you it doesn't take very much to get it working and all set up. Its like my other post said you are learning how tune your car if you do it yourself. Your weather conditions are being put into consideration and exact number are being put into the ecu. HERE iS A LITTLE SOMETHING SOMETHING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjRXEJjijlM

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Old 10-31-2009, 10:01 AM   #24
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You would have been right about a year ago but with ATR now available your argument holds no water.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:17 AM   #25
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atr you can tune yourself....to what specs your car has to its specific
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:10 PM   #26
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Let me ask you a question I am not on my cobb as much as cp-e I really didn't know that so my fault on that but does cobb still make their parts for our car. Like exhaust and all that stuff.
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Anyway check the video out. Cp-e wins. haha
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:15 PM   #28
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cobb halted prpduction on mazda parts such as fmic and downpipe....their going to continue to produce the access port and stand behind there products 100%.....you can also tell because they make no parts for the 2010 speed.....
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Thats weak why would the stop make quality parts.
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:21 PM   #30
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Thats weak why would the stop make quality parts.
No one was buying them. They are fist and foremost a business and they have to make decisions that are smart for their business.

Everyone here can tell that you're a CPE fanboi, that's cool but the OP wasn't looking for a Standback. He wanted an AP and its really none of your business why.
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