Mazda Being Sold off to Toyota?

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Lbear

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• Jun 25, 2016

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Motor Trend in their August issue claim that talks are underway for Mazda to sell their company to car giant Toyota.

If this becomes true, then I would probably never buy another Mazda again. Toyota makes boring cars and I believe Mazda would lose its "car soul" if it was sold and taken over by Toyota.

 

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SpoofeeDotCom

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• Jun 25, 2016

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I doubt Toyota buying out Mazda (if true) would be noticeable. I'm sure Toyota will let Mazda run on it's own and it's not going to be like a Toyota logo slapped on every Mazda car or every Mazda having to follow Toyota's styling, etc.

Just as a side note, Ford owns a part of Mazda already.

 

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• Jun 25, 2016

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Never know. Ford almost put jaguar in the ground.

 

JSB33

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• Jun 25, 2016

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Motor Trend is notorious for stories that have no merit. lets see if any other sources comment on this. Though I have often wondered how Mazda is making it based on how few units they sell.

 

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rudycx5

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• Jun 25, 2016

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SpoofeeDotCom said:

I doubt Toyota buying out Mazda (if true) would be noticeable. I'm sure Toyota will let Mazda run on it's own and it's not going to be like a Toyota logo slapped on every Mazda car or every Mazda having to follow Toyota's styling, etc.

Just as a side note, Ford owns a part of Mazda already.

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Ford sold their part back to Mazda few years back.

 

Anchorman

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• Jun 25, 2016

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If Toyota could adopt some of Mazdas design language, you'd have a superb car.

 

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Lbear

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• Jun 25, 2016

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SpoofeeDotCom said:

Just as a side note, Ford owns a part of Mazda already.

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Ford NO LONGER owns a part of Mazda. It sold of its shares back in 2008/2009.

 

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Kedis82ZE8

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• Jun 25, 2016

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This is an old article from last year that many have probably seen but gives some info about current partnership.

http://www.autonews.com/article/201...rtnership-to-share-technologies-confront-cost


"Toyota engineers say privately that their company has been quietly benchmarking the comparatively tiny Japanese rival, fascinated by its uncanny ability to churn out high-quality vehicles on a shoestring budget -- and to do so profitably from high-cost Japan."


http://www.autonews.com/article/20160618/OEM/306209971/toyotas-new-spirit-of-cooperation

"Cooperating with Mazda has given Toyota insights into how to manufacture in Mexico, as Toyota prepares to open its first large-scale plant there. Mazda manufactures a version of its Mazda2 sedan in Mexico for Toyota to sell in the U.S."

http://www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/from-the-editor/japans-oems-continue-consolidate

"Toyota will complete its takeover of Daihatsu later this year and already effectively controls Subaru. Since 2015, it has also had a wide-ranging technical alliance with Mazda, although without any capital involvement on either side.

Full control of Subaru and Mazda by the largest Japanese car company may well transpire before too long. Ahead of such a development, Nissan has taken a 34% stake in troubled Mitsubishi by way of a fresh capital injection. This move, moreover, gives Nissan control over key decisions regarding Mitsubishi’s strategy and direction. Honda remains independent, as does Suzuki, but the smaller Japanese brands are gradually morphing into larger groups."

 

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• Jun 25, 2016

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If it's true, then Mazda would be, the new Scion(read fun).

 

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xtrailman

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• Jun 25, 2016

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I hope it happens, in the UK you get a 5 year warranty with Toyota, only 3 years with Mazda which are not as reliable, (diesel problems).

 

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ramius

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• Jun 25, 2016

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I think Mazda is more 'fun' than Scion. Funky, sure, but not nearly as fun. FR-S being the exception.

tibimakai said:

If it's true, then Mazda would be, the new Scion(read fun).

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ramius

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• Jun 25, 2016

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I'd rather a shorter warranty period than a Mazda product that's been Toyota-fied.

If Toyota is willing to leave Mazda be with R&D and just Inject capital to increase production, I wouldn't mind so much. Pull TMG out of WEC and let Mazda attack LMP1-H with some sort of spiritual successor to the 787B. Yes, please.

xtrailman said:

I hope it happens, in the UK you get a 5 year warranty with Toyota, only 3 years with Mazda which are not as reliable, (diesel problems).

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craigo

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• Jun 25, 2016

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Bentley is owned by VW, Rolls Royce is BMW (by way of VW). Auto business is hard and tends to gravitate this way - small brands just don't have the capital to make the necessary upgrades over time. Ford owned a huge chunk of Mazda for a long while. Toyota and Mazda have been partnered for awhile... the Scion iA is just a rebadged Mazda2.

 

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• Jun 25, 2016

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From Zoom Zoom to Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

Chris_Top_Her

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• Jun 25, 2016

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Toyota has a spirited past. Mazda RX-S (upra)?

 

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• Jun 25, 2016

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Chris_Top_Her said:

Toyota has a spirited past. Mazda RX-S (upra)?

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I always thought the A80 Supra would have been a fast & fun ride...

 

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CX5_Pete

• Jun 25, 2016

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Kedis82ZE8 said:

I always thought the A80 Supra would have been a fast & fun ride...

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We had one in the family. Really cool 90s Jap sports car. I was a little bit younger then, but one time I got to drive it to school and I felt like a rock star. Really nice highway cruisers. I see one in my neighborhood that is super clean and red just like the pic above.

I guess you can say Toyota does make a Supra, but its a Lexus and they call it the RC:

BTW, the Fast and Furious 15th anniversary was just a couple of days ago...

 

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xtrailman

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• Jun 26, 2016

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ramius said:

I'd rather a shorter warranty period than a Mazda product that's been Toyota-fied.

If Toyota is willing to leave Mazda be with R&D and just Inject capital to increase production, I wouldn't mind so much. Pull TMG out of WEC and let Mazda attack LMP1-H with some sort of spiritual successor to the 787B. Yes, please.

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It could actually improve the Toyota experience, same as Ford did with Mazda.
I have only had one Toyota a Carina 2, it was 100% reliable and a quality car, the the handling was dire.

 

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rudycx5

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• Jun 26, 2016

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CX5_Pete said:

We had one in the family. Really cool 90s Jap sports car. I was a little bit younger then, but one time I got to drive it to school and I felt like a rock star. Really nice highway cruisers. I see one in my neighborhood that is super clean and red just like the pic above.

I guess you can say Toyota does make a Supra, but its a Lexus and they call it the RC:

BTW, the Fast and Furious 15th anniversary was just a couple of days ago...

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Next Toyota Supra
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/2018-toyota-supra-performance-news-specs/

 

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Kedis82ZE8

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• Jun 26, 2016

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Interesting BMW/Toyota collaboration on that next Supra.... Nissan is starting to use Mercedes motors for the small displacement motors in their Infiniti line (Q30).