Right. It's ridiculous and dumb as hell to do. Not to mention when things start going wrong, the cost of repairs are insane. Best to just lease those expensive luxury vehicles.
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Right. It's ridiculous and dumb as hell to do. Not to mention when things start going wrong, the cost of repairs are insane. Best to just lease those expensive luxury vehicles.
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Yep. It's a real kick in the sack for "pride of ownership" types like me, though, which is why I don't lease. I don't dispute that leases are better, I just get zero "enjoyment" from the concept.
Bingo. I would never enjoy my vehicle the same if I leased.
I wonder if boat pulling will be a bit painful. It has the torque to get moving quickly, but I wonder if it will be winded in hills and passing while pulling all that weight. For comparison, the Explorer has a 3.5 L boosted engine available thats rated to haul 5000 lbs.
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I know nothing about towing, but I hear wheel-base is everything.
Wheelbase is important. It's why 2 door wranglers are rated to tow less than 4 door, despite being similarly equipped.
I was going to post numbers but don't feel like it. Every SUV from Honda, Toyota, Ford, etc, their top trim levels top out in the mid to upper 40s. Mazda charging $45k isn't crazy. Go buy a BMW and START out at $45k. Then pay an extra grand for every little feature that comes standard on the non luxury vehicle brand. You'll end up around $55k. There is more to it that just saying Mazdas cx9 is $45k, and oh, so is a BMW.
It starts at 32k...
It used to be (in the US) that you take a stripped BMW then if you want packages (Xenon, sports suspension, navigation, ect.) add about 10k per package. Not sure what it is now. The best bargain are 3-4 year old BMWs because many are like new with lower mileage but outside of warranty. Just got to stay of your toes with maintaining an out of warranty BMW. Their engines/transmissions are robust. Its the quirky electrical stuff that seems to have gremlins.
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It's not that bad, but it is pretty absurd. Some BMW's are bulletproof, and some are total money-pits. I have had friends with both. I've never owned a European car, although it is on the bucket list.
I thought you were saying it starts at 45K and im just stating my opinion. if i was going to spend 45k on a car it would probably be a luxury brand.
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That's the price with all the unnecessary dealer installed accessaries for moe markups. I've seen people got a new CX-9 Signature for as low as $42,099.78 before Mazda Owner Loyalty $500 cash back and TTL in our CX-9 forum.
Be aware that for this SA-G turbo engine in new CX-9, you need to replace expensive spark plugs ($30.95 EACH) every 40,000 miles!
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Just a data point. I'm sitting at my dealer now, and there's a cx9 GT on the floor. Asking price = $48k. Signature models will likely go for over $50k.
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A mere $200 for fancy tire air! And 2k for some wax and scotch guard.
MSRP is $41k! At least the tag is honest. In reality, most of those vehicles will be under 40k.
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For Signature, MSRP is $44,015 + $900 destination charge = $44,915 if you choose an exterior color without extra $300 charge. Most buyers can get 5% off from the MSRP.
I sat in a signature during my last dealer visit. Not really in market right now but fit and finish seemed like something I could be comfortable with in low to mid 40's. Perhaps Mazda needs to revisit the Amati line?...it will take time but some need the brand name to justify the price.
