HID's and DRL's on Halogen CX-5 (w/out Tech Package) HELP!

mike786

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2013 Mazda CX-5 GT w/ out Tech Package
Hello, i have a 2013 CX-5 Grand Touring w/ out Tech Package (halogen lights) and i was looking to get HID's and DRL's for my car. I had a few questions if you could please answer for me that would be great. I was gonna get these lights for my car.

If you have a CX-5 with With halogen bulb headlights (Sport, Touring, and Grand Touring without Tech Package) in US model use the following:
Headlights Low: H11 (H11)
Headlights High: HB3 (HB3)
Daytime running lights: HB3 (HB3)

DRL's: http://store.ijdmtoy.com/9005-LED-Da...d_sku45_r4.htm
HID's: http://www.extremebrightleds.com/Pro...Code=R-HID-H11

I read somewhere that you loose the high beam function if u replace the DRL's on the CX-5's without the Tech Package do you know if that is true? Are these the correct bulbs to use for my car? Is is really hard to install them in the car and how long do you think it would take?

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!
 
in the halogen setup, the drls are actually the highbeams in a 'low power' mode (vw does the same thing but with lowbeams) so if you replace those hb3's with leds, you'll still have drls, but that will be all you get for your 'highbeam' too, not to mention that with many leds, running them at less than standard voltage will make them not work, or fail early
 
Ohh ok thank you... so u suggest not messing around with the DRL's and just change the halogen bulbs to DDM HID's??
 
Do u know if it still keeps the automatic headlight function? Because i keep mine on auto and it automatically turns on at night
 
no idea, i would imagine so, the sensor just triggers the relay to apply power to the bulb, so if the packs for the hid take their trigger from the stock connectors, it should be ok
i'm not a fan of the auto setup, turning hid's on and off alot isn't good for them (going in and out of tunnels, garages, heavy wooded areas) that those auto sensors always trip on...
 
ohh ok so overall the install process is easy right? its not too hard? i dont want to mess anything up...
 
DDM kits plug right into the factory wiring. just replace the bulb, plug in the ballast between the factory wire and the bulb and mount/hide the ballasts. No wires to cut, no holes to drill.
 
ohh ok thank you! i have a black cx-5 what color hid do you recommend? i was going to get the 8000k but i kind of want 10000k
 
ohh ok thank you! i have a black cx-5 what color hid do you recommend? i was going to get the 8000k but i kind of want 10000k
Wow! Good luck trying to see anything with those color temperatures. I would recommend no higher than 6000k.
 
ohh ok thank you! i have a black cx-5 what color hid do you recommend? i was going to get the 8000k but i kind of want 10000k

going that high, will just give you blue lights and not improve the lighting. You will probably get pulled over for it too. I'd stick with 5000k-6000k.
 
i ordered the 8000k h11 35w bulbs from ddm tuning and gonna install it sometime next week. Thanks for all the responses ill let u know how it goes
 
Qn: Is there a written law against how high is too high for the temp?

prolly varies with locality, i know in ny its illegal to have blue,red,green lights on the front of your vehicle
problem with getting far out into the ends of the temp ranges you're losing so much light for the sake of appearance, you approach being a 'ricer'....
 
Qn: Is there a written law against how high is too high for the temp?

OEM colors are about 4300k to 5000K any more than that is noticeable to the HID trained eye but most people still get away with 6000K to get a hint of blue, 8000K and above is pushing it and rice IMO.

So anything not OEM looking will stick out as being illegal. Putting HIDs in our projectors housings is borderline illegal as it didn't ship from the factory with HIDs in those housings but I doubt anyone would ever know.
 
The question You should be asking is, are the HID kits legal?
Short answer is no.
If your car came with HID lights equipped on that exact car, then it is legal to drive with them.
If you do an after market HID kit ( both the cheap PnP kits from DDM and other companies, or do a Retro fit of you headlights using an actual HID projector from another car) then it is NOT legal.

Here is just one reference for you to review.
http://fmvss108.tripod.com/nhtsa_legal_interpretations.htm
Granted it isn't the law, but you get an idea as to how they view things.

Halogen headlights are designed for that type of bulb. The light emission point of the bulb and the shaping of the halogen reflector around the bulb are designed for a relatively low intensity of light.

The halogen lights we have on our car utilize a projector, similar to appearance to the ones you see for OEM HID lighting systems, they however are still designed for a halogen bulb and it's lower intensity light discharge.

HID projectors are designed with a safety feature to prevent the high amount of light being projected from glaring on comming traffic. When you hear about a cut-off this is what they are talking about. There is more to it than that but you can get the idea.
yes our Halogen projectors have a cut off feature, but it is not the same.

Will you get pulled over for putting a PnP kit in your car? maybe, maybe no. police do not know what cars have what lighting options, but keep in mind cops do drive other cars and may own the exact model you are driving and WILL know about that car.
having an OEM projector headlight will make it more difficult for a police officer to know if you are legal or not.

As for retrofitting another cars OEM projector into yours, probably the best and safest way to get away with non Equipped HID lighting in your car. Plus, the performance you get is much greater than any PnP kit you will buy.
They are expensive though. But you get what you pay for.

Costs may go down if a group buy is done.
I am looking at this option. Doing a quad FX set up or a hybrid FX and S2K deal.
Going quad or dual will lose your DRLs though.


If you've never heard of this option look at these sites.


Parts
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/

How to
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/

Retrofitters (will do the work for you)
http://hidillusionz.blogspot.com/
http://www.lightwerkz.net/
http://www.customlightz.com/


Probably the most legal way to do it, is to buy replacement OEM HID lights from the dealer.
I'm not sure how the wiring differs. Not something I've fully researched.



Also, with HIDs, the bulbs color shift over time. if used long enough a 4300k bulb can look like a 9000k bulb, but that would take a VERY long time.
If your lights look too blue you will be pulled over and have the light tested to see if is a blue bulb or a HID bulb with a blue appearance. There is a difference. A white piece of paper will turn blue with a blue bulb, will will look more white with the hid bulb.

That being said 4300-5500k gives you the most useable light output. yeah, you might not look like you belong on the fast and the furious, but you'll be safe.
My civic had SC430 projectors in my retro fit with 4300 bulbs. The light was nearly white, and when you looked at the car, it had a blue/purple flicker.
 
My dumb question about DRL,
so for the Non-tech pack, is can replace the High beam to LED?
Do you need the conversion kit or just replace with HB3 LED?
 
My dumb question about DRL,
so for the Non-tech pack, is can replace the High beam to LED?

sure, if you dont mind not having high beams anymore, and possible burning out those led bulbs more often from them running at too low of a voltage
 
i ordered the 8000k h11 35w bulbs from ddm tuning and gonna install it sometime next week. Thanks for all the responses ill let u know how it goes

So... how did it go and how much did it cost you? Did you change the DRL's as well?
 
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