How much Transmission fluid is needed

el_Don

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2002 Mazda Protege ES
About how much transmission fluid do I need to change it for my 02 Protege ES? Thanks
 
what everyone has forgotten to mention thus far is that the 3 qts is for manual transmission, the auto takes much more
 
How frequently do you change transmission oil

I have a 200 protoge with 95,000 miles. I was told I need to change transmission fluid every 30,00 miles, since "there is no filter" - this is an automatic transmission. How often do I need to change transmision fluid - interestingly the manula dose not mention having to change transmission fluid as part of routine maintenance. Please help
 
There actually is a filter - whoever told you there isn't has been smoking some good pete :). Look underneath your car on the driver's side. There should be a pan that looks similar to your oil pan with a drain plug at the back of it. This is your transmission oil pan. First, go to an autoparts store and get a filter and gasket kit - the shop manual says to use RTV silicone stuff for the gasket, but a solid cork or rubber gasket is much harder to mess up IMHO.

Right, so you've got the kit. Jack up the front of the car, remove your transmission dipstick, and open that drain plug (make sure the fluid is still warm - maybe drive around a few minutes and then let it sit for 10 minutes.) Once the fluid is drained, take of the screws around that drain pan. Once those are off, you might have to work to get the pan off since the gasket has probably been on there since the car was new.

Now you should see the black filter. Remove the sensor-thingy carefully from the filter, and slowly pull the filter down to remove it (be careful, since it probably still has fluid in it). Push the new filter into place (if it doesn't fit, check the opening above the filter for an old o-ring or something from the original filter). Clean out the transmission fluid pan, then clean off both gasket mating surfaces, being careful not the make any deep gouges.

Put the new gasket on your pan (put some RTV "gasket-maker" down on the pan first to hold the gasket in place), then replace the pan and torque the bolts to 6-7 ft-lbf. DO NOT overtorque these bolts! Finally, replace the drain plug (with a new gasket - these can be had for like 20 cents) if you haven't already, and refill the fluid through the dipstick tube. If I remember right, I think mine took a little over 5 quarts. Make sure to use Mercon-V or equivalent fluid.

Once you've got the new fluid in, start the car, and shift through all your gears a few times. Then, with the car still running, check your fluid level using the "cold" mark on the dipstick. Then drive your car around the block a few times, then bring it back home and check the fluid again, this time using the "hot" mark on the dipstick. In each case, add more fluid if needed, and also make sure your gasket and drain plug aren't leaking. I would recheck the fluid a few days later just to be sure.

I think 30,000 miles is a good interval to change the fluid and filter. One thing to be careful of, don't ever let a shop or dealership "flush" your transmission fluid. This involves forcefully "flushing" fluid backwards through your transmission, and then forwards to remove any debris accumulation. However, unless this is done from when the car is new, doing it on an older car can remove some debris that may actually be holding parts of the transmission together, and can lead to more harm than good.
 
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I have the electronic factory service manual and there is no mention of a filter. When I asked the local certified mechanic, he agreed that no filter change is necessary since there is no filter. (2002 ES). If anyone has this identical car and has changed an auto-tranny filter, let me know.
 
in what side of the engine bay is the transmission dip stick located? I was looking at my engine bay the other day and did not see it. Also the OP said his car is a 2000, is that the same for 01,02 and 03? My car 141,000 mile, I got it about 3 weeks ago and I am trying to figure out all the maintance normally is done on the car beside the 3k oil change and other stuff.

Also Slavrenz mentioned that if the flush is done to an old car some of the debris holding parts can be removed..so if trany oil pan is removed will the debris removed too?
 
pic of auto trans dip stick, 2002 ES

Here's where the one in my car is (2002 ES). It has an orange top.

Also Slavrenz mentioned that if the flush is done to an old car some of the debris holding parts can be removed..so if trany oil pan is removed will the debris removed too?

Make sure there is a replaceable filter before you remove the pan. My MX6 GT tranny has 150,000 miles on it and I've never removed the pan. While flushing is not required if regular maintenance is performed, I'm not so sure that any harm will result if a flush is done. After all, almost every auto repair place has a flushing machine. You'd think that frequent tranny failures because of the machine would've driven that type of service out, long ago. People have this service done all the time.
 

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^ ok thanks.. thats way I never saw it lol since it is behind the MAF. How can I tell if my car have a transmision filter or not if it is in side the oil pan?

I just did a search on this autoparts website and it say the transmision filter they sell is fits all 99-03 Protege. here is the picture is this the way the filter looks like?


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The only mention of anything like that in the manual is specified as a "strainer". This is not something that is typically changed, at least that what it looks like to me. I've attched the fluid draining procedure.

Maybe the best thing to do is to call the dealership and ask the service person.
 

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Yeah, the service manual doesn't really mention the filter, which is retarded - theoretically, I think it is supposed to be a "life of the vehicle" item, but then again, so are things like fuel pumps and alternators. Anyways, IMHO, the filter change is cheap insurance against future tranny problems, since mine was looking kinda cruddy when I first changed mine. As for the tranny flushing, if you've taken meticulous care of your car all its life then it should be fine. But a lot of people just beat the heck outta their trannies, and then wonder why they fail after they get flushed - it's because all the metal bits holding stuff together get cleaned out.

It's not common that a tranny flush causes problems, but there is a reason why auto shops specifically recuse themselves from any sort of liability for damage that may result from this service. It's just not worth the risk IMO.
 
^ ok thanks.. thats way I never saw it lol since it is behind the MAF. How can I tell if my car have a transmision filter or not if it is in side the oil pan?

I just did a search on this autoparts website and it say the transmision filter they sell is fits all 99-03 Protege. here is the picture is this the way the filter looks like?


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or this one

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The first one is correct.
 
As far as I know, my 89 MX6's strainer (if it has one) has never been replaced, so I think it's safe to say that if you are good about draining the fluid every 2-3 years, there is probably no need to go through the pain-in-the-butt procedure of replacing the strainer. Does anyone change their alternators or water pumps every few years, "just to be safe"?

I know some people who change their fully-synthetic oil every 3000 miles. To me, that is a waste of money and time.
 
Mine is a A/T 2000 1.8 protege (LX in Canada). I just replaced A/T Fluid and filter yesterday. Poured in about 5L of atf but when I checked my dipstick after few minutes drive it's way over the "hot" mark. Its above the twisted part of the dipstick. Am I overfilling the tranny? Manual says it's a 7.2L capacity. If I drain some of it this would mean I only need around 3.5L of atf on my A/T.
 
No flush!

You said: "I think 30,000 miles is a good interval to change the fluid and filter. One thing to be careful of, don't ever let a shop or dealership "flush" your transmission fluid. This involves forcefully "flushing" fluid backwards through your transmission, and then forwards to remove any debris accumulation. However, unless this is done from when the car is new, doing it on an older car can remove some debris that may actually be holding parts of the transmission together, and can lead to more harm than good.[/QUOTE]"

Thanks for this piece of info. My husband has been wanting to flush the transmission for a while now, and I keep telling him it's not always a good idea (we are the 3rd owners of this vehicle, so who KNOWS what's been done to it?). I will pass this info on to him since he won't listen to me. OF COURSE the mechanic will want to do this, since it'll lead to other problems which will need to be fixed. Yikes! This car has been nothing but a money pit since we purchased it 3 years ago.
 
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