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    J-SPEC 2.0 FS-ZE intake camshaft

    Sup ppl, I'm new here so srry if this question was answered b4.

    ok i wonna get camshafts for my 2.0

    for the intake -- J-SPEC 2.0 FS-ZE intake camshaft
    and for exhaust -- well thats wher the questions comes, i heard from sum ppl that the J-SPEC 2.0 FS-ZE intake camshaft could also be installed as an exhaust camshaft, is this true and also if done would there be any problems?

    thx for all the help

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    What I've read here on the forums is that you put in the JDM FSZE intake cam, and you can use your old stock intake cam as an exhaust cam. You just have to get your stock intake cam "re-pinned" 180 degrees. Supposedly the stock intake and the Mazdaspeed exhaust cam have the same specs, just 180* off. It means your car is going to be down for a while, but I think that's better than spending the extra $$ on an exhaust cam you really don't need.

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    cool thx, yeah i kno a guy in school with msp and he was sellin me his spare exhaust cam for $120, since i'm knew to this i dint kno if MSP exhaust cam was good for my 2.0 and if i had to do anythin extra to it.
    do you have any idea about SR MotorSports Adjustable CamGears and Eibach EVS Spring Kit
    http://corksport.com/store/category/...9p-engine.html
    would they be good upgrade with JDM cam, and one more thing .... after all this installed is there any fine tunning required?? once again srry for any n00b questions.


    thx a bunch

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    just use the search option you'll find out lots of things. i believe the stock cams are the same in the msp, but who knows. just do a search you'll be bound to find the tons of threads with this subject



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    yeah i found the thread with helpful info, i was only sayin i dint know back than but i wish i was ..... $120 for MSP exhaust cam wasn't much i think



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    Oh and it isn't exactly 180 degrees between the intake and exhaust cam pins. I don't know the number offhand, 178 or something.

    I have the FS-ZE intake cam.. was it worth buying 450 dollars of air tools to install? Probably not. Would I do it again? Doubt it. Only time will tell though, I haven't ever dynoed my car so I have no clue if it netted any gains.

    For now I'll assume I'm 100whp.

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    a guy at local shop told me he would to the install for 200, that for intake and exhaust cams and cam gears.... too much ??? or seems right??? 240 including valve springs


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    That's not bad at all. A lot cheaper than the route I went (buying all the air tools just to take off the crank pulley). I mean if you want to go all out with NA mods it is a piece of the buzzle. Does that price include repinning your intake cam to be an exhaust cam? Does it include checking valve lash also? I haven't had the valve lash checked but since the FS-ZE cam basically just has a longer duration and that's it, it should be a problem. Eventually I want to get my car in to a shop (it has never been in to a shop in it's life) to just make sure everything is good.

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    repinning not included in price, but i figured i would check with the guy in school if he still has that MSP exhaust cam to sell it to me 4 like $100, since i cant afford to be too long w/o a car so i would just take it to the shop with all the parts rdy for install, what kind of diff did u notice after install?? i plan to go N/A all the way for now too, i allrdy have some bolt-ons and for the future this is what i plan on

    J-Spec 2.0 FSZE intake cam
    MSP exhaust cam
    Adjustable Cam Gears
    J-Spec 2.0 FSZE Pistons(10.4 to 1) or SR MotorSports Pistons (10.7 to 1)
    complete pulley set
    Intake mani (from ken)
    High Flow converter
    Better fuel pump
    Some fine tunning (whateva that is lolz)
    and ????????


    hey quick question, perhaps u kno, ok after the intake and exhaust cams are installed along with adjustable cam gears is there anything else required...u know like tunning and adjusting so they work well together which would create more HP and of-cours more safer for engine...or it's just basic remove the old install the new?
    thx for the help bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_StreetGlow
    repinning not included in price, but i figured i would check with the guy in school if he still has that MSP exhaust cam to sell it to me 4 like $100, since i cant afford to be too long w/o a car so i would just take it to the shop with all the parts rdy for install, what kind of diff did u notice after install?? i plan to go N/A all the way for now too, i allrdy have some bolt-ons and for the future this is what i plan on

    J-Spec 2.0 FSZE intake cam
    MSP exhaust cam
    Adjustable Cam Gears
    J-Spec 2.0 FSZE Pistons(10.4 to 1) or SR MotorSports Pistons (10.7 to 1)
    complete pulley set
    Intake mani (from ken)
    High Flow converter
    Better fuel pump
    Some fine tunning (whateva that is lolz)
    and ????????


    hey quick question, perhaps u kno, ok after the intake and exhaust cams are installed along with adjustable cam gears is there anything else required...u know like tunning and adjusting so they work well together which would create more HP and of-cours more safer for engine...or it's just basic remove the old install the new?
    thx for the help bro

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    You'll probably net some gains just from having the cams installed, but the real beauty of adjustable cam gears is taking the car on the dyno and advancing or retarding the timing on the cams to see where the car performs the best. I'm talking out of my ass of course because I haven't done this myself. This is why you see a lot of people with cut valve covers with the cam gears exposed though, it allows quick tuning.

    Also, why the MSP exhaust cam? It is the same exhaust cam you are running in your car. If anything, you'd want the MSP intake cam or any FS-DE intake cam. That's the one you are going to get repinned to exhaust cam specs anyway. I have one sitting in my garage eventually planning for the same thing. The shop will need to know the stock exhaust cam specs to do the repinning though as it isn't 180 degrees off.

    I think I'll send my car to a good import shop (I have no idea where/if there is one near me) and have them repin the intake cam to exhaust cam specs, and install it and a new timing belt and then just check on everything with the engine and car in general to make sure everything is all set for going high mileage (I'm at 62500 right now).

    Oh and here's some info from theMAN's Protege FAQ (http://web2.airmail.net/theman/protegefaq/):

    Quote Originally Posted by Protege FAQ
    Intake cam duration
    230° @ 0.003"
    Intake cam opening
    2° BTDC
    Intake cam closing
    48° ABDC
    Intake cam lobe height
    43.700mm (1.7205")
    Intake cam base circle
    35.052mm (1.380")
    Intake valve lift
    8.6487mm (0.3405")
    Exhaust cam duration
    230° @ 0.003"
    Exhaust cam opening
    48° BBDC
    Exhaust cam close
    2° ATDC
    Exhaust cam lobe height
    43.225mm (1.7018")
    Exhaust cam base circle
    35.052mm (1.380")
    Exhaust valve lift
    8.1737mm (0.3218")
    Valve overlap
    Maybe that is enough info for the shop to see about repinning? I'm not really certain.

    Oh here is some more info regarding the FS-ZE intake cam too if you haven't already read it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Protege FAQ
    If you are talking about aftermarket cams, then no, none are available.
    Don't give your hopes up however. If you own a car with a 1.8 or 2.0 liter
    engine, you can get a factory intake cam from the JDM FS-ZE engine (which
    has a lift of .341 and the duration 210° @.050). A short run of MazdaSpeed
    exhaust cams was also recently made available for that engine and has a lift of
    .341, and the duration of 210° @.050. The early version of the MazdaSpeed
    exhaust cam (FS9P-12-440) supposedly performs better (by about 1-1.5%
    @6000rpm) than the revised version. A TSB was issued in Japan concerning
    stalling/idling issues under cold engine and/or cold weather situations and thus
    the exhaust cam timing had to be reduced slightly in order to decrease over-
    lap from 17.5° to 10.5°.
    Note that the stock intake cam has
    lift of .341 and a duration of 198° @.050.
    while the stock exhaust cam has
    lift of .322 and a duration of 200° @.050.
    Part numbers as follows:
    FS-ZE intake cam: FSH9-12-420

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    cool thx for info bro, wow i din't know that MSP exhaust cam is same as the one in 2.0, i used to think that MSP exhaust cam was a bit more aggresive,, interesting

    so do you think it would be fine for now if i just keep the one that i have in there and just install intake cam and cam gears, and later on i just get stock cam re-pinned for exhaust cam or do i have to do it at the same time i get new intake cam installed.

    thx again

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    u know if u go to pep boys or some place like that most of them let you rent tools for free..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_StreetGlow
    cool thx for info bro, wow i din't know that MSP exhaust cam is same as the one in 2.0, i used to think that MSP exhaust cam was a bit more aggresive,, interesting

    so do you think it would be fine for now if i just keep the one that i have in there and just install intake cam and cam gears, and later on i just get stock cam re-pinned for exhaust cam or do i have to do it at the same time i get new intake cam installed.

    thx again

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    hmm somehow I missed this post months ago haha. In case you haven't already done it.. yeah, it's fine to just have the cam gears and intake cam installed and then do the exhaust cam later, but if you are doing it yourself you can save yourself a lot of headache and do it all at once.

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    still havent, but will soon.... had three tickets to pay off..damn pigs, I mean cops. and also i had to get new tires and rims so that sat me back a bit as well ... right now i'm waitin for next gb on rr udp and also I wanna drop in the mam catless midpipe and after that i'll be dropping in gears and cams, and i'm also gonna save and get new valve springs....after that's in place i'll go with microtech to help take advantage of evrytin...lets see how far NA will take me


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