corksports s-pipe

[sickboy]

Has anyone heard anything about this product and why has it been pushed back? Oh...and will it bolt up to any aftermarket downpipe?

[raydoh]

I have the complete corksport exhaust system. I also have a second resonater with front pipe for sale. (guitar)

[hazeXban]

But do u have a new DP(ALL The way to the turbo), or just a J-PIpe.

[sickboy]

yo raydoh.... is that corksport exhaust turbo back? if it is, how's it run and sound?

[raydoh]

yo raydoh.... is that corksport exhaust turbo back? if it is, how's it run and sound?
It is from the header all the way to the muffler and it is very husky. You can listen to it on the corksport website. They have a sound demonstration.

[raydoh]

But do u have a new DP(ALL The way to the turbo), or just a J-PIpe.

It is from the header to the muffler.

[DsourceMsp]

It is from the header to the muffler.

The header, huh? :confused: (uhm)

[Striker187]

no, corksport's is NOT a turboback. it bolts to the spring flange just after the j-pipe. i thought they had soundclips/pics on their website? check the exhaust thread too in the performance section though i think the links i posted are the same as the ones listed on their website.

btw, i wouldn't hold your breath on the downpipe....it's been in development for over a year....i seriously doubt it's ever gonna be released.

[wickedjra]

The header, huh? :confused: (uhm)

^^^^^^(rofl2)

[122 Vega]

It's actually been in "development" since a week after I bought my car(Jan of 03). They are kind of a joke. When I got my car, I offered to let them have it for two weeks or so to develop parts for it. They declined, but called me several times to ask if I would design an intake for them and how I thought the best way of making hard pipes was. The only reason they even have the exhaust out is because it was already made for the regular Protege. They will likely never have hard pipes out, and I am sure that they will never have a down pipe. Ben is no longer working there, so they don't even have an MSP to "develop" products on.

Save your money and get GHL. Or buy my CS exhaust and I'll get GHL!

Britt

[sickboy]

Corksports has a new picture of the s/j pipe and it looks like it comes in 2 parts. There's no price listed yet and it says it will be out in May. Check the site.

[jeffmsp]

by header i think he means where it connects to the stock S pipe (where on an n/a vehicle the header would end) If they do make the S pipe that would be great, but i wouldnt hold my breathe waiting on corksport, we represent a very small market to them (max.2000 units if everybody with an MS bought on) where as parts for a more common vehicle make more sense to them to create. I am sure they spent alot of time and R and D on the UNICHIP and it sold what like 20 units? (and the unichip IS a good product) so they may be hesitant to release anything else for the MSpro without knowing its worth their time.

[JHew84]

exactly, they probably dont put all their time into MSP development because of the lack of income it develops, so they probably just kinda work on stuff occasionally when they have a little spare time, also remember corksport is not a huge corporation like greddy, bosal, etc, they are a 2 guys in a garage type of operation (or at least were last time i knew about it) and probably have real jobs and use this as a fun second job...

either way, i dont like the way the GHL is designed, dont ask me why, but everytime i see it i just dont like it, the updated pictures of the CS design i liked, if it comes out in may, if i have the money i will buy it....

[Paul]

i called and talked to them the other day when i ordered my catback for my msp.
he said that the cold air intake and the downpipe will be released on may 1,05.
he said the expected price will be around $199.
that's all the info i got.
are they a bad company ? or what? someone pm me. i dont want to start anything on the forum

[jeffmsp]

$199 for a complete S pipe relacement sounds like a good price(i hope its 3"), maybe if they sell a bunch they will focus more on ms developement.

[JHew84]

i called and talked to them the other day when i ordered my catback for my msp.
he said that the cold air intake and the downpipe will be released on may 1,05.
he said the expected price will be around $199.
that's all the info i got.
are they a bad company ? or what? someone pm me. i dont want to start anything on the forum

no, they are a perfectly fine company, i ordered their power series exhaust and it was shipped to my door in no time flat, exellent quality, exelent chrome finish, i have also ordered MANY things from them in the past for other cars that i have owned, all top notch, all shipped out very fast, i would not hesitate to do business with them...

the only thing people are complaining about is that parts have been in development for so long, which is kind of understandable when you think about the parts not being developed, and how not very many of those units will probably get sold... 199 is a very good price, hell, for that and the intake your only spending a little more than most CAI's alone cose...

[Paul]

$199 for a complete S pipe relacement sounds like a good price(i hope its 3"), maybe if they sell a bunch they will focus more on ms developement.
i think it was going to be 2.4" (60mm) is what i read in another thread

[Paul]

no, they are a perfectly fine company, i ordered their power series exhaust and it was shipped to my door in no time flat, exellent quality, exelent chrome finish, i have also ordered MANY things from them in the past for other cars that i have owned, all top notch, all shipped out very fast, i would not hesitate to do business with them...

the only thing people are complaining about is that parts have been in development for so long, which is kind of understandable when you think about the parts not being developed, and how not very many of those units will probably get sold... 199 is a very good price, hell, for that and the intake your only spending a little more than most CAI's alone cose...

awesome, thankx for making things clear. It was just i was reading the exhaust thread and a lot of people dont' seem to be too happy at the moment

[JHew84]

ya i noticed that too, luckily they are all P5 guys ;) lol j/k... overall i think the complaints with the P5 guys would have been there no matter what, its a full exhaust that is pretty open, its gonna be loud, i do think the fact that you have to bend an exhaust hanger is a little lame but oh well, that exhausts price tag is considerably cheaper than any other on the market for what you get, so i'm willing to deal with a few minor problems, and it seems like quite a few of them didn't read the warnings before installing it and DIDNT bend the hanger down so the muffler didn't rest on the bumper... regardless, i've had nothing but good experiences with them, and until i do i'll keep plugging their company :D...

thanks for getting an updated date, last i heard it was "sometime in 05" haha, may is a lot better :D...

[UnNaturalinc]

To clear things up....
Downpipe is the actual term for the part, it replaces both the 'J-Pipe' and 'S-Pipe'. It bolts from the turbo to the cat pipe or exhaust.

The one in development is 2.4", same size as the exhust system they make.

[JHew84]

any updates on this?

[UnNaturalinc]

I know the prototype 60mm pipe has been test fit at this point. All I happen to know at this point.

I'm currently working on adding the CorkSport product line to our website. :thumbs-up:

[JHew84]

cool, that might light a fire under their ass to actually start finishing the development on a lot of their products...

[Paul]

anyone know why it's not on their website anymore?

[Paul]

nevermind. chris showed me where it's at.
http://www.corksport.com/main.php3?primNavIndex=0&mainURL=%2Fstore%2Findex.php3%3Fcat%3D288105
I also asked about the intake compared to the injen or aem and this was his respone...
*****
its listed under the MSP parts. Are Intake will flow just as well as the Injen or AEM intakes. We dont have dyno
numbers yet on it. But should soon. I dont have a ETA when the Intake or IC pipes will be done. If you have
any other questions please let me know.

Thanks,
Chris.
*****

[kicker22705]

this is great, 2 downpipes being released within months of eachother. competition=great prices for us consumers.

[Paul]

who's making the other downpipe?

[122 Vega]

Mam

[Paul]

any release date? and will it work w/ the corksport exhaust?

[122 Vega]

Look at the MAM website, and yes probably with work with the CS Exhaust. But it is twice the price.

Britt

[UnNaturalinc]

$395 for a downpipe? :confused:


I have been informed the Power Series downpipe will be available and on the shelf in appx. one month time. I've seen the prototype in person, it looks great. MSRP on this downpipe will be $249. These will be 60mm, just like the Power Series exhaust systems and constructed with T304 100% stainless steel.

I've started listing the CorkSport 'Power Series' product line on our website. We will be taking pre-orders for these downpipes shortly for anyone interested.

[122 Vega]

Price keeps going up and up on these...Howbout a GB?

Britt

[UnNaturalinc]

Price keeps going up and up on these...Howbout a GB?


CorkSport is talking about offering a lower introductory price. I can look into doing some sort of forum discount on here, but I will need to speak with them first. I would prefer these to be on the shelf before we did that however.

I will also try to get some installed pictures of the complete downpipe and exhaust system.

[Rawyzf]

Do you know what the price will be for just the "S" part of the downpipe, not the J?

[kicker22705]

is the 2.4 inches the ID or OD???

[Drumfreak]

is the 2.4 inches the ID or OD???

It has to be the ID. I had my stock j-pipe off last night installing my no cel fix and measued the ID of the pipe. Just a hair under 2 inches on the stock pipe.

[UnNaturalinc]

Exhaust pieces are measured in OD.

[122 Vega]

I just measured my CS exhaust, it is exactly 2.25" ID.

Britt

[Paul]

i thought it was supposed to be 2.4"
either way my n/a sentra had a bigger exhaust :)

[UnNaturalinc]

i thought it was supposed to be 2.4"


Yes, that's OD.

[kicker22705]

eh the 2.25 ID seems a bit small, but i guess the airflo friendly design will make up for that.

[jeffmsp]

its the loss of the cats that gives it the gains

[kicker22705]

^^^ haha yep. i guess its true when they say less is more.

[RenzoMSP]

Do you know what the price will be for just the "S" part of the downpipe, not the J?(mswerd)

[YayArea420]

Do you know what the price will be for just the "S" part of the downpipe, not the J?

Subscribing, I would like to know this as well.

[UnNaturalinc]

You guys are creating a lot of confusion for yourselves on these parts.

Quick/basic info: PLEASE READ
Down-pipe: (turbo car specific part) Bolts from turbo to main cat (or to mid-pipe). Generally replaces a pre-cat (does not remove either cat on the Protege)
Mid-pipe: Bolts between down-pipe (or pre-cat) to main exhaust system. Usually removes the main cat. (a normal design mid-pipe on the Protege would eliminate both cats)
Cat-back: Bolts to main cat (or mid-pipe) and replaces all the pipe to the back of the car.

The Cork Sport Exhaust System bolts directly to the down-pipe. It is not a catback.

(Edit-) The Apex downpipe is not an actual down-pipe. That would be more considered a mid-pipe that replaces part of the down-pipe. It does half the function of a down-pipe and the full function of a mid-pipe. With this piece, I have not seen a way that will allow you to replace the upper portion of the factory down-pipe (S-Pipe).


The Power Series Downpipe replaces the factory cast pieces, it does not remove any cats.

The Power Series Downpipe is a two piece pipe. The pieces will not be sold separately from it.

[Paul]

damn dyno days is going to be before the downpipe and intake come out. any chance i can get one sooner?

[YayArea420]

The Cork Sport Exhaust System bolts directly to the downpipe. It is not a catback. *Can someone confirm if the Apex pipe replaces both cats? They are calling that a downpipe, correct? (I want to make sure I have all the correct info before I 'define' any further)


If you get the one with no cats then yes it does take both of them out. If you get the catted one you will only have 1 cat. It replaces the "J" pipe and the mid pipe and bolts up to the cat-back.

I was just hoping that I would be able to buy just the power series "S" pipe and not the "J" pipe since I already have the Apex DP.

[Rawyzf]

*Can someone confirm if the Apex pipe replaces both cats? They are calling that a downpipe, correct?

Yes...the Apex "DP" replaces 1,2,3,4,5. Where as the Corksport Exhaust replaces 5,6,7.

Vibrant Exhaust or Apex DP and Cat back exhausts replace 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.

Thus...all owners of non Corksport exhaust don't need the 1,2,3,4 section, just the part before that.

Hope this makes some sense.

-Ryan



http://www.msprotege.com/members/Rawyzf/5416810.gif

[UnNaturalinc]

Yes...the Apex "DP" replaces 1,2,3,4,5. Where as the Corksport Exhaust replaces 5,6,7.

Vibrant Exhaust or Apex DP and Cat back exhausts replace 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.

Thus...all owners of non Corksport exhaust don't need the 1,2,3,4 section, just the part before that.

Hope this makes some sense.




Dang, you beat me to posting that diagram... I just coulndn't find it. :)

Thank you for the added information. I recently purchased the domain www.protegespeed.net to put this and a lot of other info in a more public type place.

[kicker22705]

well at least w/ the 2 piece design allows for flexibility for current exhaust owners. if it were 1 piece then it would only work for corksport and perrin owners which start after the J.

[Rawyzf]

I keep that on hand, as this has come up a few times now :).

Can you explain why Corksports DP will not work with the Apex or Vibrant exhaust?

Do the 2 parts of CS's DP seperate at a different point than the stock DP?

If not, then they should work..?

Dang, you beat me to posting that diagram... I just coulndn't find it. :)

Thank you for the added information. I recently purchased the domain www.protegespeed.net (http://www.protegespeed.net/) to put this and a lot of other info in a more public type place.

[Paul]

the vibrant exhaust includes the j-pipe. the corksport exhaust does not. that's why.

[dirtysouth_msp]

Yes...the Apex "DP" replaces 1,2,3,4,5. Where as the Corksport Exhaust replaces 5,6,7.

Vibrant Exhaust or Apex DP and Cat back exhausts replace 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.

Thus...all owners of non Corksport exhaust don't need the 1,2,3,4 section, just the part before that.

Hope this makes some sense.

-Ryan



http://www.msprotege.com/members/Rawyzf/5416810.gif

Well put. Many people refer to the 2 parts of the downpipe as the s-pipe and the j-pipe. It's not hard to tell them apart, pretty obvious (j-pipe is number 1 in picture). In order for the s-pipe portion of corksport's downpipe to work with Apex, Vibrant, etc. it has to have the right flange on the bottom (same as stock), and that flange will have positioned in the exact same spot as the bottom flange on the stock s-pipe. If this is the case, Corksport will sell alot more of them for sure. I'll buy one, even though I won't be using the j-pipe portion.

[TheJohnny]

I'm just curious as to the price on this sucker... i mean MAM is coming out for one as well, this should be good, can't wait to see CS's.... looks good on the website...Nice!!

[poboxjosh]

I think i heard 249 somewhere although its not posted on Corksport site

[TheJohnny]

I think i heard 249 somewhere although its not posted on Corksport site

I do believe that the MAM will be cheaper...

[Paul]

corksport is looking around $199 for the downpipe when it's released

[Rawyzf]

(bang)

not what I was asking...I know that much.

I just want to know if the top part of the CS DP will mate like dirtysouth_msp said.

-Ryan


the vibrant exhaust includes the j-pipe. the corksport exhaust does not. that's why.

[Paul]

(bang)

not what I was asking...I know that much.

I just want to know if the top part of the CS DP will mate like dirtysouth_msp said.

-Ryan
oh sorry, that i'm not sure of.

[kicker22705]

maybe this photoshop pic will help for those who are still confused.

[UnNaturalinc]

MAM's website says $395, it's on the front page.


*please read the posts before asking questions.

[JHew84]

I do believe that the MAM will be cheaper...

its already been stated that the MAM peice will be over 300, corksport has maintained around 200, its not going to fall on price, its going to fall on pipe size i'm sure, MAM will have a bigger pipe and CS will have a smaller pipe, but be cheaper...

[UnNaturalinc]

MAM will have a bigger pipe and CS will have a smaller pipe, but be cheaper...

MAM's is 2.5", CS's is 60mm. That's like a 3mm difference.

[kicker22705]

ya the size is hardly a factor b/t the two. mam is also coming ceramic coated. i dunno what else is different but the website says its being launched tomorrow (MAM's), so hopefully we'll have more info.

[Paul]

anyone know if the mam midpipe will work w/ the corksport catback?
http://*******************************/cart/product_info.php?products_id=202

[UnNaturalinc]

anyone know if the mam midpipe will work w/ the corksport catback?
http://*******************************/cart/product_info.php?products_id=202

The Cork Sport exhaust system is not a catback. It does not bolt to the cat, it bolts to the downpipe.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99590&page=4&pp=15

[UnNaturalinc]

New Product Thread (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1618791#post1618791)

[chwood]

The Cork Sport exhaust system is not a catback. It does not bolt to the cat, it bolts to the downpipe.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99590&page=4&pp=15

yes, but will the MAM midpipe work with the Corksport downpipe?

I would think yes as MAM is can bolt up to stock S/J and Corksport can bolt up to stock midpipe?

or am I totally off...

[UnNaturalinc]

The names that people use for these parts is what makes things confusing...... :-/

The CorkSport 'Power Series' Downpipe will bolt to stock exhaust or the CorkSport exhaust system. That is all that has been tested, and all I can confirm. With that said, many things 'should' fit. But it has not been physically tested. :)

[chwood]

The names that people use for these parts is what makes things confusing...... :-/

The CorkSport 'Power Series' Downpipe will bolt to stock exhaust or the CorkSport exhaust system. That is all that has been tested, and all I can confirm.

cool - gotcha.

I was speculating a little with the CS-stock mid + MAM-stock dp = CS + MAM equation.

That is the combo I was looking at is why I ask.

[StreakinOraNgeX]

$395 for a downpipe? :confused:


I have been informed the Power Series downpipe will be available and on the shelf in appx. one month time. I've seen the prototype in person, it looks great. MSRP on this downpipe will be $249. These will be 60mm, just like the Power Series exhaust systems and constructed with T304 100% stainless steel.

I've started listing the CorkSport 'Power Series' product line on our website. We will be taking pre-orders for these downpipes shortly for anyone interested.Ok this thread is a little confusing so correct me If im misintepreting things but, corksport, horsepowerfreak, AND Mam are producing downpipes right? Or the corksport and hpf the same one? Anywayz the mam downpipe is NOT SELLING FOR 395, My coated s=j pipe will be $190 just to clarify things, so its not more expensive. Im surprised no one has cleared this up already.

[UnNaturalinc]

Ok this thread is a little confusing so correct me If im misintepreting things but, corksport, horsepowerfreak, AND Mam are producing downpipes right? Or the corksport and hpf the same one? Anywayz the mam downpipe is NOT SELLING FOR 395, My coated s=j pipe will be $190 just to clarify things, so its not more expensive. Im surprised no one has cleared this up already.

I sell CorkSport (manufacture) product here at HorsepowerFreaks (retail). Sorry for the confusion.

[msp3710]

Well Guys I Know That Hiboost Has A Downpipe For $150 With Lifetime Warranty And Just Made An S-pipe FOR $45+SHIPPING..

[UnNaturalinc]

Well Guys I Know That Hiboost Has A Downpipe For $150 With Lifetime Warranty And Just Made An S-pipe FOR $45+SHIPPING..

I couldn't find it on their site.

[msp3710]

Yes The Downpipe Is Already On Their But The S-pipe Is Not.. I Just Talked To Juan Today About It.. He Is Going To Send Me Pics Of The S-pipe..

[Paul]

but will it work w/ the corksport exhaust?
w00t w00t my dp comes in tomorrow!

[msp3710]

I'm Almost Positive That It Does.

[Spooled]

That looks so much like the stock MSP j-pipe. What's the size? What's it made of? Looks like painted cast iron.

[msp3710]

2.5 inches..

[msp3710]

i will have pics of the s-pipe just waiting on juan..

[Paul]

got my corksport s pipe in :)

[YayArea420]

got my corksport s pipe in :)

How does it look?? Is the quality good?

[UnNaturalinc]

This is kind of an old thread... Here is a current one with installed pictures.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103922

[TiGrayMsp716]

I'm waiting on ups..... mine comes in today

[YayArea420]

This is kind of an old thread... Here is a current one with installed pictures.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103922

Oh, thanks man!!!

[Paul]

it looks good but i'm concerned because i didn't get any gaskets or hardware.

[YayArea420]

it looks good but i'm concerned because i didn't get any gaskets or hardware.

Wow that sucks. Does it cost extra to get all the required hardware?

[Paul]

i doubt it, i emailed chris and just waiting for his response

[Paul]

i doubt it, i emailed chris and just waiting for his response
EDIT: I just got my response and he said that the gaskets are all metal so we don't need new ones

[TiGrayMsp716]

what about the bolts... are they reuseable? I heard that some people had problems with the bolts off the turbo with the GHL turboback.

[Paul]

He said to reuse them as well. The only thing besides the J and S pipe that will change is the gasket from the J pipe to the exhaust which is included.
Someone let me know if they find out what size stock bolts are used so that I can go buy stainless steel ones.

[Spooled]

I'm really bummed I didn't get in on the first batch. Now it's a race between CS and MAM to decide which I get. They both look really nice, although I've only seen teeny tiny little pics of the MAM one.

[YayArea420]

EDIT: I just got my response and he said that the gaskets are all metal so we don't need new ones

So this might mean that you can use the S-pipe with the Apex J-pipe. With the apex j-pipe you reuse the metal gasket as well. So I am thinking since no replacement gasket is needed I bet it could fit, but I don't want to spend $250 and have it not work.

[Paul]

So this might mean that you can use the S-pipe with the Apex J-pipe. With the apex j-pipe you reuse the metal gasket as well. So I am thinking since no replacement gasket is needed I bet it could fit, but I don't want to spend $250 and have it not work.
i just emailed Chris and asked him for u

[Paul]

So this might mean that you can use the S-pipe with the Apex J-pipe. With the apex j-pipe you reuse the metal gasket as well. So I am thinking since no replacement gasket is needed I bet it could fit, but I don't want to spend $250 and have it not work.
he said that it hasn't been confirmed yet. I will try to put my "J" pipe on tomorrow to my stock "S" pipe. So if that fits then it should fit on the apex right?

[YayArea420]

he said that it hasn't been confirmed yet. I will try to put my "J" pipe on tomorrow to my stock "S" pipe. So if that fits then it should fit on the apex right?

I think you might have my question backwards. I need to know if the CS S-pipe will fit the stock J-pipe. If it fits then it should fit the Apex J-pipe. I can't thank you enough for trying it. So many people have asked, but no one has ever had a straight answer for us. So thanks again, it is appreciated.

[UnNaturalinc]

I think you might have my question backwards. I need to know if the CS S-pipe will fit the stock J-pipe. If it fits then it should fit the Apex J-pipe. I can't thank you enough for trying it. So many people have asked, but no one has ever had a straight answer for us. So thanks again, it is appreciated.

Nothing has been tested or verified with fitment beyond stock and CS exhaust with the CS downpipe.

[Paul]

^^exactly.

[wicked]

this is buggin me,I'm getting tempted to just say F it,and buy the S pipe,and if it doesn't fit my apex 3",I will make it.