Mazdaspeed seats???

[bigj884]

is this a good deal on a pair of mazdaspeed seats with brackets.....will it actually fit the p5???

will anything else need to be purchased with these seats for it to fit???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33701&item=7952928862&rd=1

[Captain KRM P5]

those are actually generic knockoffs. nice knockoffs, and ones I want for my rx7. you'll need a seat install kit for our cars i think, or really good custom brackets.

[01bluemp3]

i have been lookin at them, if you get em lemme know how it works

[Protege52003]

they look nice and say they are universal fit? i know the stock seats out a MSP will fit onto the PR5. put some in mine back in Nov......

[bigj884]

so these are knockoffs?..........so do you think the would fit without any other purchases....if so what would i need to purchase to have them fit...

[t3ase]

*sigh* Must I repeat myself?

Why do people trust their lives to an offbrand seat from ebay just because it has a knockoff Mazdaspeed logo on it? It seems Matthew, Dexter and myself are the only people smart enought to realize a seat is a VITAL part of the car, especially in a wreck. I'm not about to put my life in some $200-300 bucket seat just because it looks cool.

You're a moron, in my opinion, if you do.

[Protege2K]

I would be highly concerned about safety in these seats. For $140 for two you have to wonder just how the quality is. I wouldn't want to risk it.

Edit: T3ase was thinking at the same time as me.

[t3ase]

If your life means that much to you, please go ahead and order them.

[t3ase]

I would be highly concerned about safety in these seats. For $140 for two you have to wonder just how the quality is. I wouldn't want to risk it.

Edit: T3ase was thinking at the same time as me.
word. I don't get it.

[Captain KRM P5]

*sigh* Must I repeat myself?

Why do people trust their lives to an offbrand seat from ebay just because it has a knockoff Mazdaspeed logo on it? It seems Matthew, Dexter and myself are the only people smart enought to realize a seat is a VITAL part of the car, especially in a wreck. I'm not about to put my life in some $200-300 bucket seat just because it looks cool.

You're a moron, in my opinion, if you do.

i need some education as to why these seats might be any better or worse over another or a generic pep boys racing seat? i'm lost here, honestly - what would you look for that determines quality and usability of a seat

[Lexusviper]

t3ase makes a very good point...the seats look hot and is a really nice price...but ya do have to think of the safety factor

[mp3moose]

They definately aren't tested to withstand crashes as they don't have the stamp of approval. I forget the the letter acronom that denotes this saftely stamp, but I sure as hell wasn't going to get a broken back just to have mazdaspeed stiching.

[Captain KRM P5]

They definately aren't tested to withstand crashes as they don't have the stamp of approval. I forget the the letter acronom that denotes this saftely stamp.

i honestly didn't even know such a stamp existed

[mp3moose]

Just save your money and buy a real, tested seat please.

[mp3moose]

Its not an actual stamp obviously, but they do an american test and european test. Almost nothing passes the US test if I recall, but the european test is quite complete and all the major brands pass it.

[mp3moose]

Sorry, I realize this isn't make a ton of sense, I am wicked tired. I'll find the testing info tomorow.

[Captain KRM P5]

Its not an actual stamp obviously, but they do an american test and european test. Almost nothing passes the US test if I recall, but the european test is quite complete and all the major brands pass it.

so you are saying the US test has more rigid requirements?

[Matthew]

ken there is a guy that has ebay seats and the slider broke. nuff said. just from someone sitting on it, then imagine a car crash.

[Captain KRM P5]

ken there is a guy that has ebay seats and the slider broke. nuff said. just from someone sitting on it, then imagine a car crash.

w00t, simply w00t. so then what brands - if any - are ones that are acceptable and how does one go about checking this shit?

[Captain KRM P5]

Aricjm15: some lady rearended his ford truck, pushed the bed into the cab
CaptainKRM: ok
Aricjm15: well the gussets in his seat, the part that makes the L bend you could say, bent to all fuck
Aricjm15: causing some bad back injuries
CaptainKRM: oh damn
Aricjm15: if it had stayed together he would not have had all the problems he did
CaptainKRM: so how then do you know what is safe or not
Aricjm15: who knows
Aricjm15: put on in a civic and have the guy drive backwards as fast as he can into a brick wall
Aricjm15: and if it breaks, no good

(cryhard)

[mp3moose]

Major brands will publish if they passed the saftey standards.

http://www.sparcousa.com/pseats_street.asp?id=95

There you can see the torino is TUV certified.

[Matthew]

ive heard of many crashes involving the fake or cheap seats that killed people. occasionally its in the news. i wish i had a link for you but i dont, sorry.

[Captain KRM P5]

Major brands will publish if they passed the saftey standards.

http://www.sparcousa.com/pseats_street.asp?id=95

There you can see the torino is TUV certified.

thank you

[mp3moose]

np

[t3ase]

think of it this way....

Would you take out your seatbelts and replace them with long pieces of fabric your Mother stitched together for you? No.

Why take out a stock seat that has been specifically designed to keep you safe in accidents and replace them with products of unknown quality/origin? I can assure you none of the vendors on ebay have the money, facilities, nor desire to crash test any seat they sell.

Sparco, Momo, Mazda all do. They make customer safety a huge aspect of their business. eBay vendors make colored and bold headlines a huge aspect of theirs. You make the call.

[Captain KRM P5]

think of it this way....

Would you take out your seatbelts and replace them with long pieces of fabric your Mother stitched together for you? No.

Why take out a stock seat that has been specifically designed to keep you safe in accidents and replace them with products of unknown quality/origin? I can assure you none of the vendors on ebay have the money, facilities, nor desire to crash test any seat they sell.

Sparco, Momo, Mazda all do. They make customer safety a huge aspect of their business. eBay vendors make colored and bold headlines a huge aspect of theirs. You make the call.

i hear ya, clay. i honestly just had no idea there were such regulatory agencies or testing for stuff like this.

[t3ase]

i hear ya, clay. i honestly just had no idea there were such regulatory agencies or testing for stuff like this.
eh, of course there is. they do crash testing of everything from vehicle structure to airbag timing/angle and field to trigger deploy/seat structure.

[Matthew]

forum is helpful again. truthfully im glad you saw this thread then ken. i would love some inexpensive seats, but ive seen too many stories. then i saw that guy who said someone who was too heavy broke his sliders :omg:

[SciFiMan]

i need some education as to why these seats might be any better or worse over another or a generic pep boys racing seat? i'm lost here, honestly - what would you look for that determines quality and usability of a seat

Seat's are just like a helmet. Sure, it fits your head fine but does it have the Snell sticker? When a factory seat or a real name brand, you know that the parts were spec'ed by an engineer that understands metal strength, fatigue, etc. and used a CAD program to add strength points and make sure the mounting and brackets will sustain in a crash. Is the metal frame the correct type of aluminum or steel, or is it just thin walled junk? Computer TIG welded in a $15M factory or just some dollar a day wage 14 yr old overseas doing the assembly? Personnaly, I wouldn't buy anything off eBay unless it was non-attached accessories like air freshner or cell phone holder. Nothing to do with life safety systems such as brakes, engine bits, etc.

[bigj884]

ok i see the light now.....so do they make an actual mazdaspeed seat that looks like this........is there anyway i can purchase the REAL mazdaspeed seats froma dealer or something.....if they do make it?

[Protege52003]

ok i see the light now.....so do they make an actual mazdaspeed seat that looks like this........is there anyway i can purchase the REAL mazdaspeed seats froma dealer or something.....if they do make it?

just look for someone on the board selling their seats. what kind do you have in your P5? if you have leather, maybe they would trade with you. thanks how i got mine.......

[t3ase]

corksport.com has authentic Mazdaspeed seats but unless you're ready to drop $1800 for a pair, I'd say stick with Sparcos.

[t3ase]

just look for someone on the board selling their seats. what kind do you have in your P5? if you have leather, maybe they would trade with you. thanks how i got mine.......
think he meant Mazdaspeed aftermarket seats, not MSP seats.

[Zoom-Zoom03]

http://www.***************/rides/albums/sponsored/msoCBF17.jpg

http://www.***************/rides/albums/sponsored/mso57D83.jpg

I spent 8 hours bolting these to the stock brackets, they are more solid than the stock seats, they maintain the stock seat belt, in the same stock location with the same stock mounting hardware.

[t3ase]

I'm sorry but I seriously highky doubt that they are more solid than the stock seats. They may feel that way as you're just sitting there but throw a few G's of force in an accident.

[II-Savy]

http://www.***************/rides/albums/sponsored/msoCBF17.jpg

http://www.***************/rides/albums/sponsored/mso57D83.jpg

I spent 8 hours bolting these to the stock brackets, they are more solid than the stock seats, they maintain the stock seat belt, in the same stock location with the same stock mounting hardware.

Nice seats.......and I'll take your work for it. They look more solid. Very cool.(guitar)

[Dexter]

The real Mazdaspeed seats are expensive as hell... last time I checked, probably like 3 grand for a pair.

[Dexter]

i still dont understand why someone would by those seats. i mean, i dont mean to knock you, but they are blatently fake. So if you are buying it just for the Mazdaspeed stitching, you shouldve just had some sweatshop kid come over and stitch to your stock seats. *shrugs*

[t3ase]

I'm not knocking the purchase.. I like the seats and applaud you for your new toys. I'm just highly against putting my life at high risk any time I'm in the vehicle just for a cosmetic modification.

[ZeroAccess]

bah, at 100+mph it ain't gonna matter
I say get them and no matter what don't use the brackets that they come with
I mean in all honesty its the brackets I would think that would fail.
if your a diehard everything has to be perfect person then use different brakets and reinforce the seat brakets that attach the back with the ass part.

Therefore you get a decent looking seat IMO with the safety that you did.

[mp3moose]

The brackets aren't the problem although, those seem pretty shitty. Its the make up of the actual seat that breaks on impact. This is what will break your back in two. And how often are you at 100+mph? Even at a spirited drive you shouldn't be touching 100.

[t3ase]

The brackets aren't the problem although, those seem pretty shitty. Its the make up of the actual seat that breaks on impact. This is what will break your back in two. And how often are you at 100+mph? Even at a spirited drive you shouldn't be touching 100.
Exactly. It's the shell construction that you have to be worried about. If i recall correctly, Mazdaspeedgirl's hubby or someone was in a Miata that rolled in which the only thing that saved him was the seat.

[SpeedyPR5]

Exactly. It's the shell construction that you have to be worried about. If i recall correctly, Mazdaspeedgirl's hubby or someone was in a Miata that rolled in which the only thing that saved him was the seat.

Without a doubt. You don't want to mess around with this key piece of safety equipment. It's a pain that they're so expensive, but it's because it's not a trivial part on the car.

[[kijimuna]]

i don't know what you guys are talking about, but the seats aren't going to save you from anything. your seat belt is going to take all of the punishment.

[Lexusviper]

out of curiosity does anyone actually know of someone who was in an accident where these seats failed

[vicpd_simon]

so ture man. how many Type R stuff are out there man. Just go for the expensive because expensive must be good stuff.

[FunkyBuddha]

']i don't know what you guys are talking about, but the seats aren't going to save you from anything. your seat belt is going to take all of the punishment.

Ebay seats...like t3ase says are just there for the people who get suckered into the flashy prices and big banners.

Your seatbelt, seat, and airbags go hand in hand to ensure the most safety is provided in the event of a crash. If the seat fails and disintegrate in an accident..then what's the point of a seatbelt when you're not in the correct seating position to provide the most restraint? Whats the point of the airbag since your head's not in the direction of the steering wheel anymore in a head on collision because your seat just put you through the windshield?

[Glauconite]

they're great cheap seats..... IF you're putting them on for a show.. but seriously.. like budha said.. everything goes hand in hand.. seat belts and air bags are there to lessen/minimize the injury!!!!
PERSONAL THEORY: if you hit something infront, your first reaction would be back&head against the seat so you wouldnt go face flat on the steering.. then bam, the joint on the seat breaks, so you're lieing down in less then a second.. and the force on you would only go forward.. basically your knees would be stopping you from flying out, NOT the seatbelts... well enjoy the rest of your life...

just my ¢2..

[t3ase]

']i don't know what you guys are talking about, but the seats aren't going to save you from anything. your seat belt is going to take all of the punishment.
you are a complete fool if you seriously think that.

[t3ase]

so ture man. how many Type R stuff are out there man. Just go for the expensive because expensive must be good stuff.
*finds the "english mother fucker" pic*

[Dexter]

seat belts connected to the bracket on the seat. the seat belts connected to the bracket on the seat. the seat bests connected to the bracket on the seat and the world keeps on turning.

[t3ase]

For those in doubt, I'd suggest watching some of those crash test videos while paying attention to the seat itself.

[latinking]

anybody can infact bolt "racer seats" into a car. so what makes you different???? just like ever other car out there. strive to be different and grab the edge. for about 1200.00 you can get your interior done custom.
you won't have cool racing seats like every car out there but a interior that
stands out.... plus there not safe and not street legal in some parts... (gun)



For those in doubt, I'd suggest watching some of those crash test videos while paying attention to the seat itself.

[tunersteve]

out of curiousity, do they make a device that plugs into the side airbag harness if you decide to replace the stock seats with aftermarket ones. I was looking at a set of Cobra Sidewinders to replace the stock ones, and figured if i take out the stock ones, then i would get either a CEL or airbag light. Worst case, if they dont make such a thing, then ill settle for new upholstery, but make sure that the airbag will still work correctly. I know you cant cover them with anything and im sure theres probably some feature in the side that has to be the same.

[Zoom-Zoom03]

After some carful examination of my seats;(I think that I may be one of the only people install these, definatly the only person to attach them to stock brackets) I am taking them out this weekend and putting the stock ones back in, the reason is because the new seats are attached the bottom brackets which are only attached to the bottom portion of the stock seats, the stock brackets are not ment to support the full seat. I am turning these seats in to two high quality office chair that will we able to sustain crashes of up to 200MPH, well at least on NFS underground. I will tell you all, I put them in I have look at the brackets that come with the seats, and I tried to install them in the safest way possible, they don't work, DO NOT INSTALL, ONLY BUY THEM IF YOU ARE MAKING OFFICE CHAIRS. By the way I might sell one or both of the office chairs if the price is right.

[Protege2K]

Sounds like you need to make a badass GT4 cockpit. ;)

[t3ase]

while i'm sure it sucks hardcore that you didnt end up using them, i'm positive one day you'll be glad you didn't.