8th Gen Civic SI

[RODSCALIP5]

I guess its suppose to be unveiled on Thursday In Chicago. Anyone going to the Autoshow? Take pics and post

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/sipic06.jpg

[NRRfrogmanP5]

ill be there sat

[speed1016]

Hmmmmm any guesses on HP and look?

[vindication]

awaiting pics

[JCell]

Hmmmmm any guesses on HP and look?


i'm guessing they keep the hatcback and put the good 210 hp vtec-i engine

maybe fix that hideous front and remove/fix the shifter...

[RODSCALIP5]

Rumor is its a coupe with 200 hp, we will see on the 10th.

[Leppy]

I've heard rumors Honda's getting rid of all coupes for the US marketing making the 2 and 4 door hatchbacks aka JDM versions

[mikeyb]

I've heard rumors Honda's getting rid of all coupes for the US marketing making the 2 and 4 door hatchbacks aka JDM versions

Why would Honda do that? The 2 Door Coupe sells better then the 4 sedan and 3 hatchback SI.

[ProtegeES03]

Rumor is its a coupe with 200 hp, we will see on the 10th.

heard the same.

[Captain KRM P5]

mazdateam will be rolling deep at mccormick this weekend

[RODSCALIP5]

Heres another one, I am nor sure this is it. It looks like it has a red interior

http://www.msprotege.com/members/RODSCALIP5/8th%20gen%20civic.jpg

Link to another shot
http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151675

[01bluemp3]

i'm guessing they keep the hatcback and put the good 210 hp vtec-i engine

maybe fix that hideous front and remove/fix the shifter...

saddly it will have 80ftlb of torque

[Mr. Win]

yea i heard as well that its going to be a coupe. They hoping it sell very well. I hopinh something like the 93 with a pretty face lift.

[JCell]

saddly it will have 80ftlb of torque

with nos maybe....

[RyanJayG]

couldn't be any worse than the 7th gen imho

[JCell]

^^^worst shifter ever

they said it was made to look like the wrc cars.... i guess that's honda goal, to 'look' like real race cars

[RODSCALIP5]

mazdateam will be rolling deep at mccormick this weekend

Hopefully it will motivate them to make MS3 this year :D

[eting_pro5]

if the new Si gets the same 210 HP and 6 speed as the RSX-s, I'm gonna cry and the rest of my life will be ruined.

I vote for 200 HP and 5 speed

[Leppy]

Why would Honda do that? The 2 Door Coupe sells better then the 4 sedan and 3 hatchback SI.

i know, but it's one of the rumors i've heard from the local S2000 group.

[Autox MSP]

saddly it will have 80ftlb of torque

because the proteges with wicked torque are so much faster then hondas right?

[Notorious]

msp compared to si... then yes.

[Autox MSP]

msp compared to si... then yes.

RSX type S will walk a msp with out a turbo..... Also the engine and tranny is buttery smooth and reliable I can't say the same about the FS engine.

[RODSCALIP5]

More sneek peaks :D, doesnt look like its going to be to bad


http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-12510-243170-4053/untitled5sr.png

http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-12510-243213-4063/civic27xa.jpg

[Protege2K]

I like the little bit I can see so far.

[digitalricepape]

well they unveiled this spy shot. its supposed to be released in '06 but i dont know if its going to be the actual 8th Gen Si ..

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/news/2005/0114/civic.500.jpg

[ghost]

Lemme give you guys the rundown... 1.It will be a coupe 2. will sport the new Acura TL like headlights and will come with 4500 HIDs standard.
3. It will have the 6speed tranny and will sport an LSD. The motor will be the one on the NEW RSX-S the K20a3 that has 210hp and 143lbs of tourque at 7000rpm with a 9000 rpm redline. Vtech will hit at 6000rpm.

This car will use alot of the 2001-2004 rsx body since the RSX has been remodeled.

Oh and Jcell, and 01blueMP3....bring it anytime. Ill show ya 80lbs of tourque.

[Protege2K]

Hey Mike, my torque is bigger then yours. ;)

[ghost]

Hey Mike, my torque is bigger then yours. ;)

Yea but mine lasts longer....WOOT!

[Protege2K]

Yea but mine lasts longer....WOOT!
(argh)

[JCell]

"that's a lot of vtec!!!"

[Autox MSP]

by looking those sized rims and brembo brake calipers that car must be a concept. Honda has a tendency to bring out the concept model of production months before it hits the street. The new TL, RL, Ridgeline, Odyessy all came out couple months before as a concept before it hit the street.

[JCell]

how do u know they r brembo brakes? they could be painted calipers, just like the ones on the msp

[Autox MSP]

you see how massive they are?? they are lease 13inches. Painted gold, like the brembo calipers on G35/350z and STi.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/703000-703999/703046_22_full.jpg

[ghost]

"that's a lot of vtec!!!"

na its called ownage.

[Replica]

"that's a lot of vtec!!!"
My video lives!

[Protege2K]

na its called ownage.
Oh really?

[ghost]

Oh really?

talkin to the 2 trash talkers Greg. But, it would be a nice and close race, but in a few weeks I will be blown. Jackson Racing SC, with the Hondata K-pro at 11psi. Should take me to about 310-330whp and about 245lbs of tourque.

[JOS3]

well they unveiled this spy shot. its supposed to be released in '06 but i dont know if its going to be the actual 8th Gen Si ..

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/news/2005/0114/civic.500.jpg


this is actually the test mule for the next gen civic, not the si.

[Kooldino]

this is actually the test mule for the next gen civic, not the si.
eww

[Autox MSP]

the SRT4 would own all you guys. haha

[Notorious]

A Type S is not a Si though. My post was in reference to a Si.




RSX type S will walk a msp with out a turbo..... Also the engine and tranny is buttery smooth and reliable I can't say the same about the FS engine.

[Protege2K]

talkin to the 2 trash talkers Greg. But, it would be a nice and close race, but in a few weeks I will be blown. Jackson Racing SC, with the Hondata K-pro at 11psi. Should take me to about 310-330whp and about 245lbs of tourque.
LMAO. Oh man I remember you saying that you would just do a couple of bolt-ons. I guess that plan failed. ;) That's gonna be a damn fast car.

[Autox MSP]

A Type S is not a Si though. My post was in reference to a Si.

I'm talking about the New Si with the RSX S engine. Current Si isn't even considered a performance car. The last real Si was the 99-00 coupe.

[Familia323]

talkin to the 2 trash talkers Greg. But, it would be a nice and close race, but in a few weeks I will be blown. Jackson Racing SC, with the Hondata K-pro at 11psi. Should take me to about 310-330whp and about 245lbs of tourque.I swear that everyone who buys an RSX does this to it.... I have a friend in town that has this exact setup....

I'm sure by saturday we(mazdateam) will have plenty of pictures of the new civic..

[JasonMSP]

Found this over at Autoweek's website.


http://www.msprotege.com/members/JasonMSP/1.jpg

This concept and some preliminary specs torn from Honda two weeks before the Chicago show suggest it can, especially since the concept is “90 percent of what the production car will be,” according to a Honda source. Of course, we’re months away from a production version, and the proof is in the piloting, but the numbers are promising.

First, consider the 200-hp dohc i-VTEC engine, six-speed manual transmission and limited-slip differential. The current Si offers “only” 160 hp, a five-speed manual and an open diff. So the concept promises to be a better car right out of the box. The European Civic Si already has 200 hp, so if we want to get miffed about that, we have every right. But no other U.S.-market Civic—Si or otherwise—has ever offered as much manufacturer-supplied power or as many gears as this concept promises. And good news: That limited-slip diff means power won’t be wasted spinning the inside tire in the corner. Top it off with a suitable exhaust note, and Honda is halfway there.

[wongpres]

Below is a site with more pics from the Honda press conference at the Chicago autoshow this morning (I have the full set of studio shots but not privy to distribute them - and they'll be all over the web later today anyways).

The 8th-gen Civic is awesome and is a Mazda3 killer, with this Si in particular going to be the competition for a potential Mazdaspeed3.

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=327854

[goku4658]

Found this over at Autoweek's website.


http://www.msprotege.com/members/JasonMSP/1.jpg

This concept and some preliminary specs torn from Honda two weeks before the Chicago show suggest it can, especially since the concept is “90 percent of what the production car will be,” according to a Honda source. Of course, we’re months away from a production version, and the proof is in the piloting, but the numbers are promising.

First, consider the 200-hp dohc i-VTEC engine, six-speed manual transmission and limited-slip differential. The current Si offers “only” 160 hp, a five-speed manual and an open diff. So the concept promises to be a better car right out of the box. The European Civic Si already has 200 hp, so if we want to get miffed about that, we have every right. But no other U.S.-market Civic—Si or otherwise—has ever offered as much manufacturer-supplied power or as many gears as this concept promises. And good news: That limited-slip diff means power won’t be wasted spinning the inside tire in the corner. Top it off with a suitable exhaust note, and Honda is halfway there.

muuuuch better

[CRZbrussian]

dang that actually looks pretty cool, i wana see it hit the roads and see how t does

[gboromsp]

11psi on stock internals? Pushin it just a little aren't ya ghost? Anyway when you get it let me know, i've driven a jrsc prelude but never an rsx.




talkin to the 2 trash talkers Greg. But, it would be a nice and close race, but in a few weeks I will be blown. Jackson Racing SC, with the Hondata K-pro at 11psi. Should take me to about 310-330whp and about 245lbs of tourque.

[JCell]

i like it, but it's not for me, any interior pics yet?

[ghost]

11psi on stock internals? Pushin it just a little aren't ya ghost? Anyway when you get it let me know, i've driven a jrsc prelude but never an rsx.

Na internals are good to 400hp with good tuning on the S. You are more than welcome to drive it Jason.

[Roywhitep5]

First, consider the 200-hp dohc i-VTEC engine, six-speed manual transmission and limited-slip differential.

wtf? where does that put the rsx? maybe those rumors of the rsx being discontinued are true

[Autox MSP]

RSX is moving up market around 30k to fight the G35 and 3 series coupes.

[LapisBlueProteg]

the new civic is hot!

[mikeyb]

RSX is moving up market around 30k to fight the G35 and 3 series coupes.

If thats the case, Acura needs a V6 and RWD. I really don't think this will happen. Honda killed the CL and that competed with the g35 and 3 series coupes.

[RODSCALIP5]

TSX will have a coupe and sedan. RSX is ghost.

[ghost]

wtf? where does that put the rsx? maybe those rumors of the rsx being discontinued are true

The RSX will soon have the ITR 240whp engine, LSD, and Final drive. The interior will be Recaro designed, and will be the upscale version of the civic. Just like the TL is the accord Type-R in Japan.

[Roywhitep5]

RSX is moving up market around 30k to fight the G35 and 3 series coupes.

the rsx needs something amazing done to it. like awd or more vtec. you can never have too much vtec

(bow) VTEC

[ghost]

RSX is ghost.(eekdance)

[mikeyb]

TSX will have a coupe and sedan. RSX is ghost.

TSX Coupe? It would basically be a CL with 200hp 4cyl.

[ghost]

RSX is moving up market around 30k to fight the G35 and 3 series coupes.

If you get the type-S with the A-Spec pakg it will take ya into the 29000 range already.

That will include.

Bodykit
High wing
Lowered adjustable suspension
17" gunmetal rims and 17/45/225 Yokohama tires
Titanium Interior Accent

[ghost]

Here is some good info guys.

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=216316

[RODSCALIP5]

Good thing is, the wifes Civic Sedan is bye bye for one of these and the P5 stays :D

CIVIC Si CONCEPT PRODUCT REVEAL

VOG: "Ladies and gentlemen...the Civic Si Concept..."

Here it is. The future of Civic, and Civic performance.

Although this is just a concept vehicle, it gives a very strong indication of where we're headed with the new Coupe and Coupe Si in terms of styling and the overall package.

It's 90 percent of what you'll see when the production models debut later this year.

It's an advanced new look that speaks to the more emotional, aggressive and fun-to-drive nature of the new Civic.

Of course, the Si is about more than just the styling. That's why this concept boasts a 200-horsepower 16-valve DOHC i-VTEC engine, the most powerful motor we've ever put in a U.S. model Civic.

Of course it is a little too early for you to test drive this car, but we thought we would give you a taste of what it would sound like .....Not the kind of engine note that you expect to hear from a 4 cylinder Civic... huh?

Helping to put that power to the ground is a crisp close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission along with a limited slip differential for improved launch traction and cornering performance.

The Si Concept also boasts 18-inch, high performance rubber and four-wheel disc brakes with four-piston Brembo calipers.

2006 will mark the 20th anniversary of the Si in America. And the 2006 Si Coupe will remain true to the legacy of the Si, delivering a new level of performance to the Civic lineup.

Although it's too early to get into all the details, I can tell you one thing for sure. This new Si will be fast, fun and full of what makes Civic, a Civic.

Now, as you all know, the performance aftermarket has played a big part in the image of Civic with young buyers and performance enthusiasts. After all, it was Civic that was there at the birth of the compact performance trend some twenty years ago, and Civic that still holds the largest share of this market today.

So, as part of our marketing efforts for this new Civic lineup and for the Si in particular, we look forward to taking a big role in the event that serves as the epicenter of the tuner market, the annual SEMA show in Las Vegas.

I am pleased to announce for the first time here today that Honda will be participating in the 2005 SEMA show as Vehicle Manufacturer of the Show, a first for any Japanese manufacturer ... and the Civic is taking center stage as the Official Vehicle of the Show.

As part of this effort, we'll make SEMA the venue for the world debut of the new Si in November. It's the perfect place to showcase this new Si and to tell the world of performance tuners and aftermarket sellers how excited we are about this new Civic.

We look forward to sharing more details of the Civic Si and the total Civic lineup with you in the months to come.

Thank you for your attention this morning.

Please come on up and take a close look at the Civic Si Concept.

http://www.altspace.com/civic/Honda_Si_Concept1.jpg

[vindication]

it almost looks like this concept crx. i guess this crx isn't coming out?
http://www.streetracersonline.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_crx_kit.jpg

[Autox MSP]

If you get the type-S with the A-Spec pakg it will take ya into the 29000 range already.

That will include.

Bodykit
High wing
Lowered adjustable suspension
17" gunmetal rims and 17/45/225 Yokohama tires
Titanium Interior Accent

The A-spec is a over price accesorized econobox. Anyone that pays 30k for one is either stupid or has money to burn. RSX is already over priced at 24k.

[ghost]

The A-spec is a over price accesorized econobox. Anyone that pays 30k for one is either stupid or has money to burn. RSX is already over priced at 24k.

I would have to agree. I have the Aspec, but lets say I got hooked up WOOT!!!

[eting_pro5]

Question: Does the RSX currently have an LSD?


Opinion: The Si is a little too slab-sided for me; The production model will probably have some door trim to fix that up. There is too much distance between the rear wheel well and the deck. The spoiler connecting to the trunk in the middle is too Pep Boys. Production will probably fix that too.

Other than that it sounds pretty sweet. I guess I've been looking at this the wrong way...It'll just be a more affordable RSX.

[daperspeed]

Its an improvement. But not good enough. Try again Honduh.

1. No turdbo
2. STILL no double wishbone suspension..thats what made the old Si so sweet
3. No LSD...or does it?
4. Its kinda ugly IMHO

The fact remains is it probablt can't outperform the MSP (other than straight-line), SRT-4 et al..all 2003 cars. This is a 2006 car afterall.
Ill stick with an MSP on upped boost and my EVO thank you very much.
:)

[Jhova1012]

Hmmm... I'll have to look out for those in a few months. Time for that GIAC ecu.
But what I want to know is how much do they weigh? The Civics sure as hell have not been getting lighter over the years. Wasnt the 02 Si hatch pushing 2800lbs?

So... yeah... what happens to the rsx now? Pretty much SOL unless honda finds a new awd drivetrain and some torque?

[Familia323]

I saw it in person yesterday at the Chicago Auto show and I have to say it does look pretty good. Although I really doubt that they are gonna keep the calipers as big as they are...
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Familia323/DSC02216.JPG
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Familia323/DSC02218.JPG
hand print..
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Familia323/DSC02217.JPG

[Protege2K]

Is that a CF hood or just painted black?

[misbehave]

Some more pics:

http://www.world.honda.com/news/2005/image/4050210/02.jpg
http://www.world.honda.com/news/2005/image/4050210/03.jpg
http://www.world.honda.com/news/2005/image/4050210/04.jpg
http://www.world.honda.com/news/2005/image/4050210/05.jpg
http://www.world.honda.com/news/2005/image/4050210/06.jpg
http://www.world.honda.com/news/2005/image/4050210/07.jpg

[misbehave]

I know the 2 cars have so much differences, but I can't help thinking this next SI looks so much like Scion tC.
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Scion/100377589/028725-E.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Scion/100377589/028726-E.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Scion/100377589/028736-E.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Scion/100377589/028737-E.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Scion/100377589/028738-E.jpg

[Scott D.]

Huh, looks wayy better than the current Si, those things look like minivans. That CRX concept looks badass.

[Familia323]

The hood is just painted black...

[spike blue]

ok thats going to be my next car for sure

[JOS3]

that crx is NOT a concept. it was a photoshopped pic of an insight.

the new civic si is very nice. i saw it with familia323 at the chicago auto show. i doubt they will keep the brakesor wheels and im sure they will 'tweak' a few lines on the car.

[spike blue]

that crx is NOT a concept. it was a photoshopped pic of an insight.

the new civic si is very nice. i saw it with familia323 at the chicago auto show. i doubt they will keep the brakesor wheels and im sure they will 'tweak' a few lines on the car.

what you mean "tweak" a few lines of the car???

[Antoine]

It looks like a tc that's been working out...and what's with all the hype? I'm sure it's a competitive ride but the 90's are over....there are a lot of other choices now...

[misbehave]

It looks like a tc that's been working out...and what's with all the hype? I'm sure it's a competitive ride but the 90's are over....there are a lot of other choices now...

Not much choice in that price range if you want a coupe. Unless you count domestic.

[Slider]

My mom just got an 05' Civic SI, she loves it!

[eting_pro5]

My mom just got an 05' Civic SI, she loves it!

It's the perfect way to ween them off minivans!

[JOS3]

what you mean "tweak" a few lines of the car???

meaning it probably wont look as aggressive as the concept. maybe close, but not quite.

[spike blue]

oh i see