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mikeyb
02-07-2005, 08:24 AM
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Nissan Altima SE-R
Tuner style for Nissan's high-volume sedan.

By Jim Hall • Photos by Kenny Nakajima
January 2005
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=6&article_id=1682

Nissan's new SE-R version of its popular Altima sedan gets thoroughly worked over for enthusiasts' tastes inside, outside, in the wheel wells and underhood.

Handsome charcoal-colored leather seats with red or gray "SE-R" badging on the inserts are the exclusive seating. Other notable interior features include drilled metal pedals, SE-R badging on the floormats and a new three-gauge cluster atop the center console displaying voltage, oil pressure and fuel information. All interior brightwork is now done up in black chrome, and the instrument panel, center console and three-spoke steering wheel have also been redesigned.

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What's immediately noticeable outside is the revamped, more aggressive-looking front fascia with its blacked-out (really more dark-grayed-out) grille and smoked headlight covers. And speaking of headlights, these get upgraded on the Altima SE-R to new HID xenons at no additional cost. The new 18-in. forged alloy wheels by Alcoa are real eye-catchers as well. The car's look in profile is enhanced by new side sill bodywork and the rear gets a decklid spoiler, nicely done aftermarket-like taillights, and larger-diameter chrome tips on the new dual exhaust. Paint is limited to five colors: Black, Blue, Silver, Smoke (a deep gray) and Red, the last a rich, deep color available only on the SE-R.

The suspension gets a makeover as well, with stiffer front and rear anti-roll bars, spring rates and shock valving. There are larger front brake calipers emblazoned with the SE-R logo. And the Altima SE-R gets big brother Nissan Maxima's larger, 12.6-in. brake rotors.

The engine isn't massively massaged for increased performance under the newly designed raised hood — in fact, it gains only 10 horsepower — but it does get a reworked ECU along with a tuned exhaust that delivers a more pronounced note that is just right for a factory-tuned sedan, not too tart and not too sweet. But the 3.5-liter dohc 24-valve V-6 (now at 260 bhp) was already entering the realm of making too much power for a front-driver to handle effectively (without the aid of traction control...more on this in a moment), even with the SE-R's 225/45R-18 Bridgestone Potenzas. Mileage is rated at 21 mpg city/ 27 highway with the manual transmission.

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The Altima SE-R has a bountiful standard equipment package, so much so that options are limited to a traction control/side airbag package ($800), a 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode (a no-cost option) and a choice of either Sirius or XM satellite radio ($400). Standard items include a Bose 8-speaker AM/FM/6-disc CD changer, a security system with remote keyless entry, air conditioning, cruise control and intermittent wipers.
The navigation system available in other Altima models is not available in the SE-R edition.

Our time behind the wheel was unfortunately brief, but we were able to discern that the suspension has been tuned quite well for real-world driving — firmed up just a bit in a straight line over the standard Altima and allowing for just a slight amount of body roll in the turns. And the new 6-speed gearbox's operation is sensational, its shift lever sliding easily and precisely through the gates. Design features that make this new gearbox work well, Nissan says, will eventually make their way into the standard Altima.

With a base price of $29,200 (not including destination and handling), Nissan's 2005 Altima SE-R provides tuner-inspired pizazz and a solid-performing engine/ silky-smooth 6-speed manual in a proven package — a definite next-car candidate for enthusiast drivers of all ages requiring four doors.

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Seems Road and Track really doesn't like this car!
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KpaBap
02-07-2005, 08:31 AM
you can get a 350z for less money, guess which one I'd pick...

also that's the STi and Evo price range, seems like too little too late

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 08:39 AM
you can get a 350z for less money, guess which one I'd pick...

also that's the STi and Evo price range, seems like too little too late

I really think Nissan Bombed this car! My Nissan dealer has 5 of them on their lot. My saleman told me that they've only sold one Altima SE-R. Look at other cars in its price range.

05 Legacy GT Limited
05 Outback SUS 3.0 R
05 Infiniti G35 295hp
05 MSP6

I really don't think this a competitor for the STi or EVO. If Nissan did a car like these it would be based on the next gen Sentra.

KpaBap
02-07-2005, 08:45 AM
it's not really a competitor to any car in it's price class :confused:

all the cars you mentioned are AWD (save the G35), and that's still RWD, don't know about you but if I was gonna spend $30k on a car it sure as hell ain't gonna be FWD...

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 08:52 AM
it's not really a competitor to any car in it's price class :confused:

all the cars you mentioned are AWD (save the G35), and that's still RWD, don't know about you but if I was gonna spend $30k on a car it sure as hell ain't gonna be FWD...

AWD is an option on the G35 that puts its price over $30k. I own one of thoses $30K cars that I listed. Believe me I would rather have the 05 LGT over the Altima SE-R.

KpaBap
02-07-2005, 08:52 AM
The Audi A4 1.8T Quattro, BMW 325i sedan and Mercedes-Benz C240 are at that price point as well. Now that I look more into it, the Altima SE-R makes even less sense.

They should have instead focused on giving us a twin-turbo 350Z or somesuch :D

M=SP^2
02-07-2005, 12:38 PM
I saw this car in person and the bodykit looks very good, as do the rims. Otherwise I agree with everyone else, much better options in that price range.

Super Matty P
02-07-2005, 12:46 PM
looks nice but too little too late. Why not put the 3.5L in the sentra??

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 12:52 PM
Yea I started a thread a while back about this car...It's nice but you can get nicer for the money, plus it's not a light car by any means.


Wheels are cool, interior is cool, kit is cool. It's actually a nice car.....but it needs one thing bad, a discount.

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 01:21 PM
The Altima SE-R has one thing going for it. Its HP numbers. Look at the others like the BMW 325i(184hp 2.5L inline 6), MB C230 Sedan/Wagon(189hp 1.8L SC 4cyl), MB 240(168hp V6), MB C230/320 Coupe (189hp 1.8L SC 4cyl and 215hp 3.2L V6), Audi A4 1.8T(170hp turbo 4cyl), Subaru Legacy GT(Sedan/Wagon)/ Outback 2.5 XT Wagon (250hp 2.5L Turbo 4cyl Boxer), Subaru Legacy 3.0 R/Outback 3.0 R Sedan/Wagon (250hp 6cyl boxer), Volvo S60/s70 2.4(168hp 5cyl) and 2.5 T AWD(208hp turbo 5cyl), Lexus IS 300 (215hp 3.0 inline 6cyl), Saab 9-3 Linear, Arc, and Aero(175hp/220hp 2.0t turbo 4cyl),

The only 2 cars that do better in hp numbers are the Acura TL (270hp 3.2L V6), G35 Sedan/Coupe/G35x(280hp auto or 298hp 6spd 3.5L V6).

Super Matty P
02-07-2005, 01:22 PM
I'm saving my pennies for the new G35 GT-R.

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 01:23 PM
looks nice but too little too late. Why not put the 3.5L in the sentra??

It won't fit! Nissan had a very hard time getting the QR25de in the B15 chassis. Thats why the 2.5LE, SE-R, and Spec V have a crappy turning radius and the 2.5LE and SE-R have a outdated slushbox the Auto from the Altima 2.5 would not fit into the Sentra.

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 01:27 PM
I'm saving my pennies for the new G35 GT-R.

That will be alot of Pennies. You will need a Brinks armored truck to go buy the GT-R.

Super Matty P
02-07-2005, 01:27 PM
well, it doesn't hurt to dream!

MikeyB. what info do you have (other than the SCC preview) of the GT-R?? heard anything new?

Super Matty P
02-07-2005, 01:29 PM
That will be alot of Pennies. You will need a Brinks armored truck to go buy the GT-R.

I've heard $42-45 for the GT-r from a nissan spokeman quoted at an autoshow. In all honesty I could write a check for that. If it's $50K+ then I'll think about it but the only other car i'd want for under $50K would be the new 550hp "Shelby" with the GT engine, tranny. (whip)

goku4658
02-07-2005, 01:35 PM
its official, i really don't like the wheels

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 01:46 PM
well, it doesn't hurt to dream!

MikeyB. what info do you have (other than the SCC preview) of the GT-R?? heard anything new?

Matt P, I really haven't heard anything about the GT-R. When I was still working at the Nissan dealer there was talk about the GT-R will have either the 4.5L V8 or a TT VQ35. I still think it should be sold here as a Nissan not a Infiniti. Yes its going to a based on the G35 Coupe.

Another rumor I heard was Nissan is looking at a Coupe and Convertible versions of the Altima.

Super Matty P
02-07-2005, 01:49 PM
OT- I hear the GT-R will be a G35 otpion package. basically just engine upgrade and new body kit. Hense the lower price point. They are re-using the AWD system currently available but the engine is said to be de-stroked to 3.0L or 3.2L with twins...450bhp - 6pd manual - AWD....can't knock it when it has all that AND infinity build quality.

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 01:51 PM
OT- I hear the GT-R will be a G35 otpion package. basically just engine upgrade and new body kit. Hense the lower price point. They are re-using the AWD system currently available but the engine is said to be de-stroked to 3.0L or 3.2L with twins...450bhp - 6pd manual - AWD....can't knock it when it has all that AND infinity build quality.

YA HEAR THAT TOYOTA !!! BUILD THE FUCKIN' SUPRA!!!!!(whip)

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 01:52 PM
YA HEAR THAT TOYOTA !!! BUILD THE FUCKIN' SUPRA!!!!!(whip)

I don't think they will!!!

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 01:54 PM
I don't think they will!!!

I agree....I was talking to a GM for a toy dealer, good guy, and he said it was on then off, then on, then off.....

Super Matty P
02-07-2005, 03:00 PM
supra = rich girls car

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 03:09 PM
supra = rich girls car

lol Dude no way....that car was beefy when it was out. It wasn't a "cute" car at all......maybe in white. The TC....yea kinda girly petit small cute car.

Super Matty P
02-07-2005, 03:25 PM
unless you had a 3rd gen supra twin turbo with a 5spd it's a chick car....same as a mustang. I like mustangs but they are mostly girls cars.

vindication
02-07-2005, 03:29 PM
last I read not too long ago, the skyline was coming here in like 2007 or something like that and the supra was coming also but I forget when(V8 option as well for the US).

I've seen the Altima SE-R at the dealer when my dad bought his titan a few weeks ago. it is definitely a hot car but too expensive for it imho.

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 03:40 PM
unless you had a 3rd gen supra twin turbo with a 5spd it's a chick car....same as a mustang. I like mustangs but they are mostly girls cars.

My definition of a girl varies from yours.....big loud V-8's don't seem cute and girly to me. The beetle, Miata, TC(kinda), VW Cabrio, any 4 cyl automatic....are more girl speed.

mikeyb
02-07-2005, 05:13 PM
My definition of a girl varies from yours.....big loud V-8's don't seem cute and girly to me. The beetle, Miata, TC(kinda), VW Cabrio, any 4 cyl automatic....are more girl speed.

Hey watch it with the 4cyl automatic are more girl speed! Both of my cars are slushboxes! And I had a 04 Miata 6speed!

Just giving you crap!

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 05:22 PM
Hey watch it with the 4cyl automatic are more girl speed! Both of my cars are slushboxes! And I had a 04 Miata 6speed!

Just giving you crap!

LOL
I'd take an 04 MAZDASPEED miata, but in black or red....the white or lighter colors are ...umm....a bit fem.

There are 2 dudes, older guys...like late 50's, with white miatas. It's just funny watching them drive. They are all smiles which ic good they are happy....but man dude.....those little 13inch tires......lol. Well they look like 13 inch steel wheels.

KpaBap
02-07-2005, 05:47 PM
Call me crazy but I'm secure enough in my masculinity to drive a "gay hairdresser's girly car."

Hopefully, one day you will grow up and realize that there are better things to worry about than what some other guy thinks about you or your car. Cause I sure as hell am not trying to impress other guys. Are you?

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 06:00 PM
Call me crazy but I'm secure enough in my masculinity to drive a "gay hairdresser's girly car."

Hopefully, one day you will grow up and realize that there are better things to worry about than what some other guy thinks about you or your car. Cause I sure as hell am not trying to impress other guys. Are you?

I never used the word gay. I just think they are cute cars and I don't want a cute car, I want a cool one......and yes actually guys like cars, so when you got something with some balls, guys take a look and say "hey nice car" has nothing to do with taking it in the ass. Just getting a thumbs up from a bud.

KpaBap
02-07-2005, 06:04 PM
So we agree you buy a car as a status symbol/fashion statement then. Cool. Not my cup of tea.

flat_black
02-07-2005, 06:20 PM
Miata's rock... They're the only remaining inexpensive, entry level, RWD, 2-door sports car.

But at any rate... The Altima SE-R sure looks pretty neat. =) Not my type of car, though.

II-Savy
02-07-2005, 08:23 PM
So we agree you buy a car as a status symbol/fashion statement then. Cool. Not my cup of tea.

Dude I have an electric blue sedan with a big wing and large wheels. Everyone looks at the car. So um yea...married, one kid...no chicks I need to impress any where. I like the comments, questions, and some thumbs up.(cool)