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madmerv
01-24-2005, 11:09 AM
I think not....... (wrc)

Super Matty P
01-24-2005, 11:17 AM
any car can be made to do that for a picture...i can make my p5 do it if you'd like.

crossbow
01-24-2005, 11:26 AM
The standard mazda 6 does that. Its called "lifting". Just lift the throttle in a turn and your rear end will kick out.

Btw that photo isn't the best way through a turn. Looks cool, and its fun to do, but not good technique. Some of the reviews have pointed out the car is incapable of performing a power on oversteer, and instead oversteer is controlled by braking or lifting the throttle in the turn, like every other FWD car on the market.

Necessity
01-24-2005, 11:28 AM
18x7 tires + 3600lbs = understeer

Also, that could have just been the awd moving power to the rear and horribly unsettling the car, as it's been stated as doing.

madmerv
01-24-2005, 12:04 PM
Give me a break, you guys :( I thought it was funny! I'd like to see the next couple of frames and see if he saved it. Could very well have been a setup for the camera, as he hasn't near enough opposite lock.

Thanks for the education on the fastest way thru a corner, crossbow.....

Necessity, is that a STRETCH 6, or is it like an SR71 (elongates at supersonic speeds)? I love the action shot of the car in the corner. Now I know why the SSB guys were all in Miatas and not Mazda6's at the Runoffs.

Necessity
01-24-2005, 12:17 PM
I'll have to find it, but someone posted the entire action shot. The driver corrected and finished the turn properly hehe.

Yeah - the pic is stretched a bit to keep it in line with the other. Full size is http://www.afterglow.nu/rotor.jpg

JCell
01-24-2005, 12:50 PM
i think it's a cool pic.....i'll never be able to do it in my pro because tires r too expensive

madmerv
01-24-2005, 02:15 PM
Yeah - the pic is stretched a bit to keep it in line with the other. Full size is http://www.afterglow.nu/rotor.jpg

Much better......I see you are hard on the binders :) What track are you running in that pix? Street tires or "R' compunds? Do you have a full sizze of the car in the turn?

Necessity
01-24-2005, 02:46 PM
That pic was at summit point - Going into turn 5. I was on Falken Azenis there, but I have r-comps as well for ViR. I have full size pics of the 6 in turns, but not that particular one.

Mikey444
01-24-2005, 03:48 PM
Am I just seeing things or are the front rotors on the 6 red due to the heat? I've seen that happen on a BMW once.

crossbow
01-24-2005, 04:43 PM
Necessity is the lord of braking. Just wait till I get my coilovers on...not even nes's electrical homing ball can save your ass!

Btw merv, i didn't mean to be offensive...i just get perturbed when people start showing off drifting as a sign of some sort of performance vehicle =/. I think its sad the scca has embraced it as a competitive sport. At least the tire companies are happy =/.

madmerv
01-24-2005, 11:02 PM
Btw merv, i didn't mean to be offensive...i just get perturbed when people start showing off drifting as a sign of some sort of performance vehicle =/. I think its sad the scca has embraced it as a competitive sport. At least the tire companies are happy =/.

I agree with you 100%. It's fun if you're just playing, otherwise it makes no sense to me. I've been doing track events since 1989 and road racing since 1995.

crossbow
01-24-2005, 11:29 PM
Ya I figured as such, from the nice spec miata sitting in your car info...which made it seem like I was insulting you, which wasn't my intention.

I don't really race myself, just try to hit cones...er i mean avoid them. So far I'm only partially sucessful. :) Look at the blue one run!

http://www.3dluvr.com/crossbow/autocross/oct/cross2.jpg
And yes...I'm aware you can fit a spec miata in my wheel gap. :) I'm waiting on my D2 coilovers to come in. Damn JDM importing takes forever sometimes.

Da 6
01-25-2005, 06:24 AM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/373000-373999/373599_166_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/373000-373999/373599_167_full.jpg
Eibachs at work...:)