Redline MT 90 Tranny Fluid

[Rawyzf]

Just an FYI,

Cullen at *************** is now carrying Redline MT 90 for the MSP's. Good deal on it too, $36 shipped for the 3 quarts needed. (Actually only 2.9 qts are required)

It's hard to find this stuff in stores locally, only a few places carry it and they are usually out of stock.

www.*************** (http://www.***************/)

-Ryan

[daedalus]

thanks for the heads up... i still have to purchase mine. now i know where to get it.

[projektmsp]

is this equivilent to gm or pennzoil synchromesh?

[daedalus]

yea.... only better. ACtually there is a lot of debate on which is better. I have used both and found that redline holds up much better and provides a better feel than synchromesh. Just my humble opinion.

[FBI14]

What section is the Redline under...Cant find it

[StreetUnit]

http://www.***************/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SU&Product_Code=MT-90&Category_Code=MSPEngine

Happy New Year guys...

[goldstar]

is this equivilent to gm or pennzoil synchromesh?
Red Line MT-90 is a synthetic manual transmission oil; Synchromesh is a mineral oil.

[garretts77]

Red Line MT-90 is a synthetic manual transmission oil; Synchromesh is a mineral oil.
Synchromesh is semi-synthetic. At least that is what it said on the bottles...

[speedcicle]

I use mobil one full synthetic gear oil, that stuff is great. Trans has never been smoother.

[FSDET]

cool. how often does this need to be changed ? i had 11k when i changed it now im almost 30k

[garretts77]

The change interval in the FSM is 30k miles...

[Reitrof]

speedcicle,

I tried that 1st before going to Redline. The Mobil did not do much over the stock fluid. Found a much bigger improvement with Redline.

[goldstar]

Synchromesh is semi-synthetic. At least that is what it said on the bottles...
Only in their dreams. The problem is an oil can be legally advertised as "synthetic" or semi-"synthetic" if it is made from hydrocracked petroleum base stocks or combined with such stocks. Additionally, an oil need not disclose its constituent base stocks. True, 100%, fully synthetic oils are derived either from Polyalphaolefins (PAO's) or Polyol ester base stocks. Unless an oil specifically states this, assume that it is NOT a fully synthetic oil, or even a semi-synthetic oil, even if it says so.

For example, Red Line specifically states that it is derived 100% from Polyol ester stocks, Mobil 1 states that it is PAO based with some ester added in and Amsoil is also PAO based. These are safe choices for those who want to use fully synthetic oils. Looking at Synchromesh's data sheets, I don't see any mention of PAO or ester base stocks in its composition.

02 DX Millenium Red

[garretts77]

Sounds like you know a lot more about this than I do. All I can say is that it says "semi-synthetic" on the bottle, and every shift feels better than it did stock... It was a very worthwhile upgrade IMO. I am not saying it is better or worse than any other fluids, only that it feels much better than stock...

[goldstar]

All I can say is that it says "semi-synthetic" on the bottle, and every shift feels better than it did stock... It was a very worthwhile upgrade IMO. I am not saying it is better or worse than any other fluids, only that it feels much better than stock...

I'm sure it was a worthwhile upgrade and that it does feel better than stock. Hydrocracked mineral oils are far superior to straight run mineral oils and I have no doubt that Synchromesh is an excellent example of this type of oil. I was only trying to point out that just because it is labeled as semi-synthetic does not mean that it actually contains hydrocarbons derived from PAO or Polyol ester base stocks. Someone intending to buy a fully synthetic or a fully synthetic blend might want to steer clear of Synchromesh for that reason.

If Synchromesh were not sold as a semi-"synthetic" oil, I'd have no quarrel with it. A number of people in the industry state that semi-synthetic is largely a marketing strategy. Putting the label synthetic on an oil, regardless of its constituents, enables it to be sold at a higher price than its production costs merit, since PAO and Polyol ester base stocks are much more expensive to produce than even hydrocracked petroleum base stocks.

02 DX Millenium Red