cosworth parts?

[2004MZ3GT]

anybody have or seen these cosworth parts available from corksport?

http://corksport.com/main.php3?primNavIndex=0&mainURL=%2Fstore%2Findex.php3%3Fcat%3D293623

looks good for those of us wanting to remain N/A!

[dragonpr787]

looks pretty cool, good selection of susoension components. (rockon)

[melicha8]

Lucky motherfuckers, uhhh!

[SpicyMchaggis]

yeah really, where's my cosi parts?

[MidnightSpeeder]

Wow that intake manifold looks pretty damn sick.

AzMz3 - What do you think of it?

[tgv121281]

Guys, forgive me for my ignorance, but how does a new intake improve the performance? And by approx how much? I'm assuming there must be some good reasons to spend $700....

PS-I heard from some other people that Cosworth is quality stuff, this ture?

[2004MZ3GT]

generally if it is from cosworth it is pretty good.

[Mike R]

Cossies are the shit. Been building/tuning awesome ford products for years.

[2004MZ3GT]

they are claiming a 27hp over stock to 172 (duratec 2.3) with their manifold, intake and ecu reflash. they are also claiming a 200hp "stage 2" package, and a 230hp "stage 3" package

the "stage 2" package has cams, a 67mm throttle body, and a header, and a reflash.

no word on the "stage 3" package yet.


http://www.cosworth.com/


it's under sales -> d-power.

[mazdaspeedpower]

Let me tell you, if I was rollin a 3, and didn't wanna go turbo, I'd hit that. My mother, who does own a 3, is currently contemplating getting that intake mani...cause she wouldn't mind a bit more get up and go.

[2004MZ3GT]

I'm also guessing that there will be better gains on the mazda 2.3. I'm hoping for close to 200 at the wheels(rockon)(thumb)

[AzMz3]

Wow that intake manifold looks pretty damn sick.

AzMz3 - What do you think of it?


Word is they will have packages for the Mazda3. If anyone is wanting to do a compete N/A build without the guess work of mixing and matching parts...this is it. The intake manifold along should be on every serious modders Mazda3.
It is a good package, even all of the Focus tuners have said this is probaly the best streetable kit out there.

Even if they don't have Mazda specif kits we will still be able to use most of the parts with the help of the SCT.

[MidnightSpeeder]

I'm also guessing that there will be better gains on the mazda 2.3. I'm hoping for close to 200 at the wheels(rockon)(thumb)

Your hoping for the gains to be associated of the variable timing right?


tgv121281 - I believe the intake manifold feeds more air from the throttle body to the pistons.

On this note, wouldn't the larger throttle body be a shoe-in for the intake manifold to have it's greatest power gains? I couldn't see having the throttle body being small and a larger intake manifold. (this is if my explanation of the intake manifold is correct though.) (dark)

[tgv121281]

Why is it that this would be for N/A tuners? Wouldnt you see the same gains if you went forced induction? And if most of the gains are due to the larger throttle body, can you just get a larger throttle body rather than the whole mani? I'm confused so if some of these comments are off the wall just slap me right in check!

PS-2004mz-thanks for the input!

[mp3moose]

Oh suck! Why can't we get that??

[2004MZ3GT]

Your hoping for the gains to be associated of the variable timing right?





yup

[dragonpr787]

anybody know of any other companies developing turbo kits other than hiboost.com, for those who might be interested in forced induction?

[AzMz3]

Why is it that this would be for N/A tuners? Wouldnt you see the same gains if you went forced induction? And if most of the gains are due to the larger throttle body, can you just get a larger throttle body rather than the whole mani? I'm confused so if some of these comments are off the wall just slap me right in check!

PS-2004mz-thanks for the input!


It will be for all serious tuners, but if you are going the N/A route and want to squeeze every streetable HP/TQ out of it you will need that intake manifold.
Larger Throttle bodies are more for throttle response than making power.
Beside FI a throttle body seems to be the most noticeable mod to do...even on a stock car....In my opinion.

[deezntsz]

corksport is just using the focus cossie part cause it will bolt right on but will throw a CEL

[Airman Jack]

how do you know it'll throw a CEL?

[AzMz3]

how do you know it'll throw a CEL?
Because our stock intake manifold has the variable intake-air system. Which is controlled by the ecu and once you remove it, you will throw a CEL.

[deezntsz]

yes and Walter Marcy told me.

[Airman Jack]

ahhh good point, thanks for the info! :D

[deezntsz]

will be finding out more this weekend....

[tgv121281]

please keep us informed...

[deezntsz]

Just alittle update, went up to Marcy Motorsports this weekend to get fitted for the intake. So the ball is rolling, he will be getting back to me when the finished is done and sure will let everybody know. Don't know how long yet. The ass dyno felt some good gains though. About the cossie parts we will see more next time I go up there he should have them by then.

[MidnightSpeeder]

deezntsz - Could you possibly get some info on that Intake Manifold? Any help would be appreciated.

[deezntsz]

Don't much else till we fit it on hopefully next month but know that it does bolt right up and will throw the CEL that's why we need the sct tuner or cossie to make the kit available for us with a reflash like the focus.

[careveryday]

I just joined the forum today. I was from the **********************. I was interesting in the same cosworth intake manifold. However, there was nobody can answer my questions about fittings and performance. I found out that you guys are having disscussions about this intake manifold so I decided to join in. Now forgive me first but I do have some questions. what is a CEL? What elses do I need other than the intake manifold? Where can I get my ECU reflashed (corksport??) Is there anybody going to put the intake manifold on soon? My car is a 04 manual hatch with AEM CAI.
Thanks

[Dexter]

CEL = Check Engine Light

[deezntsz]

An intake manifold will do the best when used with the intake, header, exhaust, throttle body and tuning. Without the rest I don't believe you will see a huge difference but coupled together the whole system will flow much better which is why you need the tuning to get the most out of it by adjusting air and fuel.

[tgv121281]

did anyone ever find out if the CEL problem is gone???

[Badger Biker]

I am interested as well. getting rid of that plastic intake manifold would be nice ... but the CEL thing bugs me.

[tgv121281]

My thoughts exactly....I want things done right...no point in fixing up 1 thing, and causing another issue

[Da 6]

If CP-e can rid us 6's of the Fuel trim cel then I'm pretty shure cos could rig something up. Now with this intake mani...it kills vtcs but does it also kill vilm?

[AzMz3]

If CP-e can rid us 6's of the Fuel trim cel then I'm pretty shure cos could rig something up. Now with this intake mani...it kills vtcs but does it also kill vilm?

Cosworth is not hacks like CP-E and don't trick the ECU. What they do is almost the same as the guys on ebay selling 99 cent resistors. If Cosworth makes an intake manifold specifically for the Mazda3 it will come with a reflashed ECU just like the Focus. But since it will probally be a while before they do make one for the Mazda3, we will be able to use it only if we have the SCT tuner.
And what is VILM, I looked in my service manual and on the service cd and did not find it?

[deezntsz]

They are working on it so it will be ours someday. The focus one is barely for sale so we just have to wait. But until you have every other bolt on you won't really need it.

[goldwing2000]

And what is VILM, I looked in my service manual and on the service cd and did not find it?

I think he's referring to Variable Length Intake Manifold. It was a typo. Cut some slack.
Just FYI, Mazda calls their multi-chambered intake a VIS (Variable Intake System).

To answer the original question: probably. Since VIS is part of the intake manifold, it will probably be designed out for hi-po applications. You never know, though. It has its uses, so they may keep it.