Rishie's FITMENT RECIPE

[ARD MP5]

Hello Gentlemen.

I had posted this on the other board a very long time ago. But knowing how loyal people are to a single board I've come to find out that several are not looking into this. So here it is:

THE MATRIX: 3rd Generation Proto's

Mazda Protege5 fitment guide

215/40/17; 215/35/18
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7.0" +45 and higher
7.5" +48 and higher

205/40/17
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7.0" +42 and higher; Barely making it
7.5" +48 or higher, the +45 still worries me with this width on a 205.

Mazda Protege Sedan
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Can run 2 to 3 mm less offset than the Wagon. Appears to have a little more room under the fender. As we've got no problems with wheelguuruu's 19's at all.

BEWARE OF THE PASSENGER SIDE. IT will be the first to rub. hehe. Not as much negative adjustment on that side, even with camber bolts. Based on left hand drive. hehe.

Hope this helps everyone. Please feel free to call us as we will be stocking the real good ones, quality, appearance, weight, perfect fitment. Plus you'll get your forum/club deal and the sanctity of mind that the fitment has my blessing.

Be weary of the "local tire shop" as many have not done real time fitments prior to your consultation. Not even the manufacturers who create the fitment guide for the dealers have test fitted everything. It's based on patterns with fitments in the industry. Unfortunately, our cars veer off that line just slightly but enough to be very annoying and shitty when you just bought wheels that you were told fit only to have them rub.

We are a tuning shop and therefore specialize in certain performance oriented vehicles. Therefore do multiple fitments on the same vehicles with different wheels and so forth. We weigh them loaded and unloaded, tires and wheels. It's some good info to base your decisions on.

Thanks, Rishie

PLEASE READ IT SLOW AND TAKE NOTES. THIS IS A NO BULLSHIT POST. ALL OF THE INFO AND STIPULATIONS ARE INDICATED.

[rmedoc]

Ok Rishie, you seem to be the man when it comes to rims and tires. I have seen great answers to everyone's questions, and most of the people thank you for the answers.
So, I, being completely wheel stupid when it comes to sizes and stuff, looked at your last post, and am still a little confused, hoping you can help.
I want to buy the rims that are attached in the pic below. They are Excel DL-46's in a 17X7 size. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out which ones to get, when it comes to bolt patterns, offset, yada yada yada. Some guy (i wish I could remember his name, 'cause I would shoot him) said that if I want 16" rims, go with a 4 bolt pattern, and with 17" size, go 5 bolt. Is there any truth to this at all??
Ok, almost done picking your brain(hopefully this will help others as dumb as me, if there are any!) Also, what tire size do you recommend? 205/40/17's or 215/45/17's? My car is not lowered, but may decide to install an eibach lowering kit later.
Last question, I have heard that you have some of the greatest deals available for rims, and was wondering if you carry these, and how much the would cost me with shipping to Hawaii. I will not be buying them for a few more months, but I am trying to get an estimate on how much to save. The best I could find now was for $899 for the rims and tires, plus $125 shipping to good ol' HI.
Thanks for you help man, I really apprecaite it. Like I said, I am new to this whole thing, and just trying to learn as much as I can.
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/rmedoc/excel%20dl-46(silver).bmp

[rmedoc]

oops, lets try that post again
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/rmedoc/123.jpg

[ArkosP5]

Can you give us fitments for the stock 16" tires on a P5? I need new rubber soon, but won't be buying new rims.

[ARD MP5]

Thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately I'm out of town right now but when I return in less than a week i will get you some answers. Depending on the offset of the wheel you may or may not be able to fit it. I will have to look into this for you.

As for tire sizes the offset will depict whether or not you can do a 205/40/ or 215/40 but no 45 series.

Arkos, I can't remember if our stock wheel is 6" wide or 6.5" wide. If it is 6.5" wide you can upgrade to a 205/45/16. If not I would suggest remaining with the stock tire size of 195/50/16. Ask someone on the board as my car is not with me.

Later, Rishie

[ArkosP5]

Thanks Rishie :)

Anyone happen to know the width of the stock P5 tire?

Also, .. Rishie: when you get back in town, can you quote me some prices?

[StuttersC]

Originally posted by ArkosP5
Thanks Rishie :)

Anyone happen to know the width of the stock P5 tire?

Also, .. Rishie: when you get back in town, can you quote me some prices?

Um, I think they are 195s...Did you look at your tire??

[Sir Nuke]

Originally posted by ArkosP5
Thanks Rishie :)

Anyone happen to know the width of the stock P5 tire?

Also, .. Rishie: when you get back in town, can you quote me some prices?

the width of the stock tires are 195's

and the width of the stock 16" wheels are 6 inch.

[ARD MP5]

Yup, you sure can. Check out our MP3 at the SEMA show in Vegas. And yes we are a Volk distributor.

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=1005761&selected=112078

Rishie

[ARD MP5]

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=1005761&selected=112078

[Minus]

links didnt work :(

[ARD MP5]

We were missing a couple stickers at this time. The car looks a little different now.

http://www.overboost.com/images/!secretbox/ovb1/1007/DSCN7225.jpg

http://www.overboost.com/images/!secretbox/ovb1/1007/DSCN7224.jpg

Rishie

[Andres]

But they would fit ?

I love to do some hard-cornering, but hate to hear tires rubbing the car or things like that...
Is it possible to turn around corners hard with 19s and really low suspensions ???
Don't like air-suspensions...

Thanks in advance for the details in offsets, widths, and tire brand options and measurements. Preferably I would like to have ultra-lite forged wheels...

FEDE.:p

[melicha8]

Andres that sounds like a physical impossibility unless you plan to do some fender rolling and repositioning of the struts. 18s...19s can you tell the difference all that much?

[ARD MP5]

It's not impossible, but is also relative to what you consider to be really low suspension. Sean's MP3 is real low in my opinion and he's driven the shit out of that thing at that ride height. For testing purposes only though. :D

Remember that it's the rear of the P5 that is different. The fronts are the same. But who would want to buy different offsets for the front and rear. Well I would but that's just me. I'd want a thinner wheel track in the rear to get that f***r to rotate. hehe.

If you get the right offset it could work. You'd run a 215/35/19 obviously and can't slam your shit as much as a 17" or 18" wheel because you're an inch taller no matter what with the 19. But it's possible.

Give me an idea of how low you're talking. Measure from the ground to the front and rear of your sideskirt. I just want to hyptohesize this for shits and giggles.

There are 7" wide 19's now so that makes things quite a bit easier to work out. Still very limited but it'll all be there on the website in the next month. Woo Hoo. Finally a damn website. I probably should have caved in sooner.

Laters, Rishie:D

[BadDSM]

So will a 17 x 7.5" rim with 205/40/17's and a 45 mm offset fit my p5 ok?
I was only going to go with a 1.3-1.5" lowering spring.
Thanks,
Evan

[ARD MP5]

That's a real tough one. I can't give you an honest opinion other than it depends on what tire brand and model you run. I would assume that it wouldn't. It's one of those iffy situations which is why it's not posted in the recipe. Good job. You're the first to have picked up on that "hole", hehe. It's called the Unknown Zone of the recipe. hehe. However, if enough people try it we can gather the data.

Rishie

[ARD MP5]

I'll see if I can get one test fitted this week sometime. I'll use a Rota and just check it out.

[Andres]

First of all,

You're right Melicha8,,, from 18 to 19" it's not going to be so different anyway...
And Rishie, thanks a lot for your time and advice. The thing is that I want the car to sit with the tires some 1/2 or 3/4" inside the fenders, so you can barely see the rubber. That's the kind of look I want, but of course I want to corner hard.
I don't know if measuring the distances from ground to the front and rear will give a real answer since I'm not looking for a specific ground clearance but more for a certain wheel gap (a non-existing wheel gap for that matter...):p .
Now, some valuable data is that I will be installing 2 amps, a 12" sub and a fiberglass box for it, so there would be some extra 80 lbs all the time over the rear suspensions...

Now, I really wanted the new Rotary-Forged CenterLine wheels
Forged Center Line wheels (http://www.centerlinewheels.com/w_catalog/rpm.html)
An it looked nice they have 18" by only 7" wide wheels (black for my Lazerbluemica please...) but the offset doesn't fit your recipe Rishie, those are only +42 mm
So now I'm really confused... Those were the wheels I really wanted, they have them in black, and they're only an unbelievable 15.5 lbs a piece!!!! (amazing for a 18"...):cool:

So... I am looking forward for comments...

Thanks in advance for time once again!!!
FEDE.

[ARD MP5]

Well, SEan spoke with centerline at SEMA and we were told that we can perform the mod to get these to fit and it won't sacrifice the integrity of the lugnut seat. So you can get them but this is about a $200.00 additional charge.

So how much tire do you want to see? Half inch or what. I can figure it out then. The problem when lowered too much is that you'll rub in the front when you crank the wheel. So I don't know if you can have both. My P5 is totally border line.

[Andres]

Hi Rishie,

Can you take photos of your car's wheel gap + a side or angle view?
I would like to have a better idea of what you mean, maybe that's also enough for me...

And about this mod you mentioned for the CenterLines, is that some kind of Aluminum spacers?, or is some other mod CenterLine can perform to their wheels...?

Because I don't think they're gonna change their -I guess- extremely production process, to accomodate new Offsets...

Thanks once again for your help Rishie, and by the way, who is Sean?, because no one at least in this Forum has that Name...

Have a nice day (if that's possible on Mondays...)
Andres (FEDE).

[BadDSM]

Originally posted by ARD MP5
I'll see if I can get one test fitted this week sometime. I'll use a Rota and just check it out.

Ok thanks.
I am looking at a set of Rotas.
Are you trying to get some +48 offset 7.5" wheels from Rota to resolve this issue?
Please Email me some pricing on 17x 7.5" rota Sub Zero's for my P5.

Thanks again,
Evan

[Andres]

Hi Rishie,

I just checked another forum and discovered Inimical_01ES car and judging for what I saw on his web site (dude that's a cool car...!), that look would be what I'm looking for...
Just that I would like to use 18" wheels instead of 19"ers.
I also saw there one of your posts and now I get Sean is your partner... (too much work got me kinda slow duhhh). Does he post here also?.

So in the end my little research was quite fine since I was looking for these CenterLine Forged wheels in 18" by just 7" wide which seems to be great due the limitations you mentioned and the rubbing also Inimical_01ES talked about...

Now the thing is this "modification" you were told at SEMA... can you explain a little bit more, I'm really interested!.

Thanks to everyone for the help, and thank god this forum exists!!!!

Later,
Andrés.

[I_Vtec]

I want to drop my P5 with spoolin's springs. They offer a 2 inch drop. Will I be OK with 17x7 with a 45mm offset and wrapped with 205/45-17 tires. This stuff is confusing. Thanks for the help.

[HurricaneP5]

It would be nice if someone in the know (not me!) could put up a list of rims that do come in the correct offset for the P5....because it seems that everyone asks about rims and of course they're never the right size/offset according to the experts (not me!).....anyone??? :confused:

[ARD MP5]

I have that list and it will be published on our website very shortly. along with an inventory of those wheels. I am so sorry to have to do this and it's a PITA for me too. Cause I have to answer every question, but I'm doing it to protect the time I've invested into looking into these fitments.

thanks for your patience,
Rishie

[blackp5]

will rota slipstreams size 16"x7.0" w/ 45mm offset fit? also what size tires will work?

[ARD MP5]

that slipstream is a great fitment. Since you're local I can hook you up and take care of everything. Come by the shop and let me know what color you want. I'll be going over to Rota this week.

Thanks, Rishie

[Sir Nuke]

Originally posted by ARD MP5
that slipstream is a great fitment. Since you're local I can hook you up and take care of everything. Come by the shop and let me know what color you want. I'll be going over to Rota this week.

Thanks, Rishie

Rishie....does that mean we will be getting an up-date on the battles too?

[BadDSM]

Rishie,
Can you tell me if a 17x7" w/ a 5x114.3 bolt patten and a +50 offset will work?
Thanks,
Evan

[BadDSM]

Originally posted by ARD MP5
that slipstream is a great fitment. Since you're local I can hook you up and take care of everything. Come by the shop and let me know what color you want. I'll be going over to Rota this week.

Thanks, Rishie

Please let me know if you can get silver 17x 7.5" Rota Subzeros with a 48 mm offset when you visit Rota this week.
Looking to buy very soon.
Thanks,
Evan

[lamp3]

I'm looking to get a set of 17x7.5 tarmacs for my mp3. Whats the deal I've been hearing about having to have the inside of the wheels machined, and removing my cars dust caps?? How much of the wheel needs to be machined? Where can I have this done?

Thanx for your time guys,
Zach.

[low_psi]

just so you guys are informed on rota wheels i'll post this. this happened saturday in houston, at the event before the one i went to, at the same location.

This was posted on the Evolution list by James Rogerson:
"Today we had a Subaru with Rota (brand) Attack (model) wheels shear the rim away from the hub. All five spokes showed oxidation at least 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through from the inside. I checked the other wheels and found a fine crack on the inside of two spokes on one other wheel with my thumbnail. There is ALMOST NO VISIBLE crack. The crack is masked by the powder coating. One other Rota wheel has a raised line on the rear of the spoke that is discernable by thumbnail only. I'd advise anyone using these wheels to check them for cracks on the inside of the spoke about 1.5 to 2 inches out from the hub.
......... Wheel sheared in a 180 deg sweeper, typical Roger Johnson Nationals course."


please be sure to check your rotas often!!


now for my question. i've got the stock DX steelies with 195/55/15's on them. i want to get 205/50/15's but i'm not sure if they will fit. should i get 205/55/15's to ensure the sidewall can flex in if needed? equinox is running 205's on his p5 16's and i want to be sure i'm not gonna have to return my falkens.

[DooMer_MP3]

I'm going to give this a shot, knowing ARD doesn't know EVERYTHING and that he is very busy :). Anyhow, I'm going to buy some spool lowering springs (2" drop front and back). I have the stock MP3 17" wheels. When I get replacement tires later this spring, will I be able to go with 215/40R17s? Or is this too wide with being lowered? I appreciate any help from anybody.

Chris

[rowan]

I have 215/40's on my MP3 right now and they don't really seem to stick out any farther than the stock 205/45 tires. You should be just fine.

[DooMer_MP3]

rowan,
Thanks for the reply, but are you dropped at all? That would most likely change things.

Chris

[Sir Nuke]

Originally posted by DooMer_MP3
rowan,
Thanks for the reply, but are you dropped at all? That would most likely change things.

Chris

doomer...you should be fine.....I ask Rishie about this VERY SET UP a while back as I am headed in that direction....he said it was fine.....no problems rubbing at all.

[DooMer_MP3]

Sir Nuke,
Thank you for the response. So you're gonna go with the spool springs? They seem like an awesome deal. I know 215 vs. 205 isn't a very big difference, but I think it'll definitely be noticable (visually). Going to my 195 snow tires is definitely a difference :).

Chris

[Sir Nuke]

Originally posted by DooMer_MP3
Sir Nuke,
Thank you for the response. So you're gonna go with the spool springs? They seem like an awesome deal. I know 215 vs. 205 isn't a very big difference, but I think it'll definitely be noticable (visually). Going to my 195 snow tires is definitely a difference :).

Chris

I havn't made up my mind yet as EXACTLY what I am going to do with the suspension...but I posed the questions to the experts to find out what worked FIRST....no need to consider something if its not going to work....

[azeli73]

I'm looking at 17x7.5" (5x114.3)+45 w/215/40/17". I've lowered my ride with eibach springs. Would this work or would I need to go to a +48 to be safe?

thanks

[LittleRedWagon5]

Well the Fitment was right, I got 215/40-17's on Voxx FA rims, 17x7" .I also have lowered the car with H&R springs and everything fits just right, except for the passenger side rubs when going over large bumps or dips in the road. It doesn't bother me much, but I am going to switch to the Eibach springs so the rear of the car comes up as bit. Th lowering on the rear with the Eibachs is only 1.2 "s as the H&R's is 1.3 ". I'm hoping that should give me the neccessary clearence to banish the rubbing.

What does everyone think will it work ?

[BadDSM]

Originally posted by LittleRedWagon5
Well the Fitment was right, I got 215/40-17's on Voxx FA rims, 17x7" .I also have lowered the car with H&R springs and everything fits just right, except for the passenger side rubs when going over large bumps or dips in the road. It doesn't bother me much, but I am going to switch to the Eibach springs so the rear of the car comes up as bit. Th lowering on the rear with the Eibachs is only 1.2 "s as the H&R's is 1.3 ". I'm hoping that should give me the neccessary clearence to banish the rubbing.

What does everyone think will it work ?

Eibach Pro kits are lower in the rear(1.8" drop).

[LittleRedWagon5]

All the sights i've visited have shown the eibach drop specs to be 1.2" in the rear and 1.4" in the front. Are there any springs I can buy to raise the rear up a little ?

[BadDSM]

Maybe they changed the design but they used to lower the rear more than the fronts if I remember correctly.
You could get ground controls or the mazda speed springs(1").

[LODI3QTR]

GOT A LARGER PIC OF THAT INTAKE???????(huh) :eek:

[low_psi]

would a 15x6" w/ offset: 45 and a 205/50/15 rub on a protege?

[savaho]

LittleRedWagon5 , why don't you just roll your rear fenders? It isn't hard to do and it'll save you money. Having only 7" wide wheels, you shouldn't be rubbing all that much. Raising the ride height by a fraction of an inch is not going to solve your problem. Changing out your springs is a costly and unnecessary move which will yield no real gains. Take your rear wheels off and tap the rear fender lips (inner lip) up gradually with a hammer.

[MYFBPEX00]

Originally posted by mx3ownzj00
would a 15x6" w/ offset: 45 and a 205/50/15 rub on a protege?


you should have no proble. I had a set of 17x7.5 Subzeros with a +48 offset and 205/40 tires that got no where near rubbing

[Minus]

hey rishie or anyone else,
i have bought some spoolin' lowering springs and as you know its a 2" all around and im wanting to throw some 19"s up under my mp3 still on the tockicos that it came with. will i have any problems?? would i still be able to squeeze off the 7.5" wide wheels or would i need to get less width? and my last question is, would a 215/35ZR19 work on m y mp3?

[SpeedFreak]

Rishie, quick question. I would like to stuff some 15" or 16" by 8" wheels under my 2002 Pro. DX. If I lower it at all it will only be around an inch. Would this be possible? I currently have 16" by 7" wheels on it now with by my measurements approx. 50 to 52mm of offset. There's only about 1/2" to 3/4" of clearance between the inside of the tire and the struts in the front, but no rubbing yet anywhere. If this is possible do you have any wheels in this size that would work? If so could you link me to some pics. You seem to be the guy to go to for wheels, heard lots of good things. Thanks.

[Cheese]

I am looking at getting the ASA EM9 :: 16x7 rims, and using the stock 195/50R16 83V M+S tires which came on my P5 untill i can afford better tires... The reason i want to go with the 16''s is because i do plan on lowering my car eventually and do not want any rubbing (plus this way i can use the same tires i already have)...

I guess my question is this, since i have not been able to find out as of yet what the offset is for these tires, would anyone happen to know if i will encounter any problems with these...

also, i have found a place online that sells them for $119/each with a shipping of $65 for all of them, which comes out to about $540... Would you happen to know of anywhere in the San Jose California area (i noticed RND is in this area also) that sells these tires for a comparable price? Everywhere else i have seen them online sells them for around $175 ~ $200 each...

and just out of curiousity; how much would RND charge to mount the tires on the rims and install them?

Thank you for your help!

[savaho]

cheese, I looked at those wheels and I'm sure you won't have any problems with rubbing. They aren't deep dish or anything so you should be ok. Nice wheels too.

EM9 (http://adaptivestrategies.com/ASAmotorspo.html)

[joka1]

rishie...
one quick question......i have a protege es with ground control(3 in drop) and i want to put 18x7.5 on it.....will it fit and i know the bolt pattern but what offset should i use? i am willing to roll my fenders also to go lower!! any suggestions are greatly appreciated!! is my car dropped 2 in on the stock 16's http://members.cardomain.com/joka1
thanks

[IMAX]

Two quick questions.

1. The Mazda Speed Protege is running 215/45/17, would your current fitment recipe work with the 45 series tire on a P5?

2nd question, Do you or anyone know if the RH Evolution CP8R rims come in a 5 lug pattern, with the correct offset to fit the P5? My research has turned up nothing but blanks...

I just came from a new car owner orientation meeting at the dealership I bought my car (Rick Case Mazda, in Gwinnett Co., GA) & I'm getting my finances straight to start working on my P5.

Any info you all can provide, will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Here's a pic of the rim. It weighs 12.5lbs...

[ARD MP5]

Yes it would hypothetically. I would however stick to a 205/45/17 on the P5 if looking for more ride comfort. I don't know why, just that's what I would do. It's one of those things that just makes sense in my twisted wheel and tire junkie mind after so many years of doing this.

I think it's cause that's what the MP3 had. ANd the MSP has more power so I can understand why they would change the tire size.

Rishie

It works cause i run a 215/40/18 and that's the same in the 17" size. So go for it bro. No fitment problems. Just lose some "off the line" jump. It's cool at higher speeds though. Less shifts on teh freeway at full throttle to get to that speed. hehe.

THE CP8R is a 4x100 wheel only from all the research i've done. sorry bro. get some volks man. I can hook you up on those and IMHO they're way better than the RH's and Racing Harts. Another, I don't know why things. But just Know.

[IMAX]

I was afraid of that. I'll have to take another look at the Volks. The only thing that caught my eye was the LE37T's & the GT N1's. Do they come in silver? I'm still looking around. I'll let you know if I see something else. Again Thanks...

[ZG77_OzZ]

What sizes will work?
Lug pattern,Rim size, tire size?

[03P5]

And I'm looking around at different rims, and I've read the fitment guide and have a couple of other quesitons.

First, with a 17x8" rim support a 205/40/17 tire. Or is the tire too narrow. How about a 215/40/17.

Second with that 17x8 rim fit our cars with a +50mm offset? Or is 8" just too wide?

Thanks,

Ryan

[ARD MP5]

The 8" is too wide. Might work in front with coilovers but not in rear. That width will support that tire but barely. However the wheel is too wide so it's pointless.

Sorry, Rishie

I have FD3S 16,8 +50 wheels Sean and I will use in the front of the Proteges and the stock 16,6 protege wheel in the rear.

[rowan]

16x8 +50 ?? There is really that much extra clearance inside towards the strut?

[YellowMP5]

Will the 17x7 40mm offset rim work on a protege5?
and what kind of tires should i get with those rims?
And yes, i read the guide but i am stupid :)
and what does the offset mean?
does the rim with a lower offset stick out from the car or too much "inside" the wheel well?
Thanks Rishie.

[ARD MP5]

That wheel should not work in most cases. Even with the thinnest tire available a 205/40. We've had rubbing issues. I'm very sorry as that is a very commonly seen fitment.

Ya there's enough backspacing on the P5 just barely. I haven't test fitted with the tire but we're sure it will work. The FD wheels are like 14lbs and the protege5 wheel is pretty light too around 16lbs. I'll probably just run the Azenis 215/45/16 all around. Most likely will get the Rota slipstream for the rear in the 7" width.

Later, Rishie

FD wheel front and Rota slipstream rear. Like I car what it looks like on the track. lol.

[03P5]

So is there anyone on this board who's narrowed or shaved some offset off a rim to make it fit?

There's a company here in Vancouver, called Green's Auto, that has done wheel modifications/repairs for 50 years, and they can widen and narrow rims, and I imagine machine off 2-3mm to change offset.

What backspacing would a 19x7 need?

I really like some Konig wheels ( 18's in black opal ) but they are all 18x7.5 with 45mm offset, and it would rock if this shop could just shave 3mm off the hub to make them fit.

Rishie, you hear of this being done?

Thanks,

RYan

[03P5]

Another question, hopefully will get answered, can the offset become too much?

I found some 5x114.3, 17x7's with 50mm of offset. Is that too deep for this car ( in the wrong way ), ie will it rub againt the inside of the wells?

[BadDSM]

http://www.geocities.com/abaddsm//MazdaProtege5.html

:)

[rowan]

You can go up to +55 mm offset on a 7" wide wheel without rubbing on the suspension. (That is the stock size of MP3 and Mazdaspeed wheels).

[Laser5]

Rishie,
I am looking at 18" RH Evolution GT5's.
1. Do they come in the correct offset?
2. Can you get those, and if so how much for a package.

Thanks in advance.

Eric

[RPMjchris]

My daughter just got a silver Protege'5 and we both love it!

She needs wider tires, so....

What is the stock (16") wheel width, and what is the widest tire you've seen work on it? 205/45-16? Been looking at the Yokohama AVS ES100.

We don't want to change the overall diameter too much.

Hook us up!

[rowan]

205/50/16 will fit best.

[YellowMP5]

www.whalentire.com
has a good tire width/height/revolutions calculator.
select a car and then choose different tire models/sizes and you will see which other sizes come closest to the stock. its an easy way to pick a tire when getting different rims.
for 17" rim on a p5, the best tire size looks to be 215/40.
and like rowan said, 205/50 is better than 205/45 for a stock 16 inch rim.

[dream merchant]

hey guys, im new to the forums and its a ood thing i read the fitment guide... i was about to buy a set of 18x7.5 +40mm offset wheels with some 225/40-18 tires...

i was told by the e-tailer that these would fit on my '02 Protege 5 without problems... judging by the fitment guide i could have been in for a big headache.

i only considered these 18s because of the tire size, im not to crazy about going with a 215/35-18 so its looks like i may be going with some 17s, i saw on that link that was just posted by Yellow that some 205/45-17s would fit but i didnt see that size in the guide above...

the reason im considering that size is because the overall diameter is listed as being 0.59" taller than the stock tire diameter..

[YellowMP5]

215/40/17 is only 0.09 taller than the stock 16" with tires.
its the closest match to stock.

[inlineracing]

I am looking to get Rota SubZero's 17x7.5 with a +48 offset. The tires will be yokohama ES100's 215/40/17. My Protege5 is lowered with the eibach pro-kit 1.4 Front 1.2 Rear. Please post any thoughts on this setup (fitment, looks, ride......). They will be steel gray with a poliched lip on a silver P5.

Thank you
(Plan to order today/soon)

[hawaiiannights]

Question: Will the stock MP5 tires fit on an aftermarket 16x7 rim?? I'm not sure how wide our stock rims are.

[YellowMP5]

stock rims are 16x6.
i think it should fit but don't take my word for it.

[hawaiiannights]

What is our tire size? If anybody knows off hand...the stock tires that come with our cars.....thanks in advance!

[rowan]

Why don't you read the sidewall?

The stock tires will fit on a 16x7 rim. It will look a little stretched but it's fine.

[hawaiiannights]

Thanks...Our rims are 6 or 6.5 ??

[Reitrof]

16*6

[speed-dog]

Does anyone make a 3 spoke alloy for the MP5. 7" or 7.5" x 17" with a +45 offset?

[dream merchant]

3 spoke... hmm notthat im aware of... i favor wheels with more spokes, like 6 to 7 or so so that it hides more of the brakes and inner wheel well etc.

[Cheese]

Originally posted by hawaiiannights
What is our tire size? If anybody knows off hand...the stock tires that come with our cars.....thanks in advance!

195 x 50 r16

but just by looking at the side of your tires, you should have been able to figure that one out....

[walight01]

discounttire swears that my stock p5 wheel is 7" wide, i know its not b/c the 215/40 i put on don't touch the ground all the way around. anyways, my front tires wear really bad on the inside, almost like the are rubbing, is this possible? i have stock suspension.

[PhatTrax]

Anyone know what the offset is on the Tenzo-R RS-5's?

[walight01]

how much would a set of 17" battles with tires run me???

[DrummingFrenzy]

Ok, so I've asked this question but I seem to get differing opinions. Since I don't want to purchase wheels and tires only to find that they don't fit, I'm going to ask you Rishie. Will this fit my car with out rubbing and without effecting my turning? I will have eibach springs on there as well.

I have a Protege 5

18's with a 45mm offset

215/35/18's?

[TurboBunny]

215/40/17; 215/35/18
-------------
7.0" +45 and higher
7.5" +48 and higher

205/40/17
-------------
7.0" +42 and higher; Barely making it
7.5" +48 or higher, the +45 still worries me with this width on a 205.


I'm trying to understand this fitment recipe before I place our order for some tires...

The recipe states 7.0 +45 with 215/40 tires seems to work fine, but then 7.0 +42 with 205/40 is said to be "barely making it"....

I would think that it would be the opposite considering the fact that the that the 215 tire is 10 mm wider than the 205 (extending 5 mm more towards the fender than the 205) and the difference between the offsets is only 3 mm.

I know it's only 2 mm...but I want to make sure I don't run into any rubbing issues if I go with a 215/40/17 tire on a 17x7 +45 rim.

I apologize in advance if my logic is screwed up here, but I just wanted to double check :)

Thanks!
J.J.

[rowan]

If it's a 17x7.0 rim, then go for a 205/45/17 tire for the safest fit :) A 215 won't really sit properly on a 7.0" wide rim anyway.

[TurboBunny]

rowan..i agree completely...but we want a little more sidewall :(
Sometimes an extra 4mm of height makes a difference ;)

Dallas roads SUCK....

[DrummingFrenzy]

Originally posted by DrummingFrenzy
Ok, so I've asked this question but I seem to get differing opinions. Since I don't want to purchase wheels and tires only to find that they don't fit, I'm going to ask you Rishie. Will this fit my car with out rubbing and without effecting my turning? I will have eibach springs on there as well.

I have a Protege 5

18's with a 45mm offset

215/35/18's?


Any help on this?

[ARD MP5]

Sorry guys,

I don't check this thread very often. The offset will be dependent on the width of the wheel.

For a P5 in 7.5" width you will need a +48 offset. If the wheel is 7" wide you should be able to get away with a +45 offset.

Most 18" wheels are 7.5" wide so I would assume it might not fit.

You can run either the 215/40/17 or 205/45/17 on the 7" width. Either of the two will work fine. Well within tire mfg specs.

PEace, Rishie

[DrummingFrenzy]

Ok now I'm even more confused. So you're telling me that if my wheel is 18x7.5 that it will not fit on my car without rubbing? What can I do besides rolling the fenders to get this wheel on my car? It sounds like you're saying that you can't get an 18 inch wheel on a PR5 without rubbing. Is this correct?

[TurboBunny]

He is just stating that you need an offset of 48 or higher on a 7.5 inch rim or an offset of 45 on a rim that is 7 inches wide

The rim you have inquired about is 18" +45...he is also assuming that your rim is 7.5 inches wide (because that's a common 18" width)....that means it will be 3mm closer to the fender than he recommends, which also means that you are probably going to rub...

-J.J.
"still wants to see if his logic is correct 6 posts above"

[rowan]

205/45/17 is the safest fit and will also give you a reasonable amount of sidewall.

Your question about your logic with an extra 5 mm of tire vs. 3 mm less of offset can be accounted for by considering the profile of a tire and how it curves over from the sidewall to the tread. Because most tires have at least a slightly rounded shoulder, it tucks up and in a bit and makes the left over 2 mm of spacing a non-issue in most cases.

How's that?

[ARD MP5]

Drumming,

Here it is real simply. To your post 6 posts above. It will not fit if your wheel is 7.5" wide. As i've stated. You have failed to provide me with all the specs of your potential wheel. I've provided you with all the info for you to make the decision.

If the wheel is 7.5" wide and a +45 offset it will not work with a 215/35/18. I've done this before without any luck. Now Nitto released a 205/40/18 I believe. I haven't tested with this so I can't say.

If your wheel is 18" and 7" wide with +45 offset it should work under theory. It will ultimately come down to your tire selection.

Rishie

[DrummingFrenzy]

Ok, I understand now. Please excuse my all of my questions Rishie. I'm not being dense, but I'm new to all this rim and tire size mumbo jumbo. I'm still learning. Thank you for your help and patience!

I'm going with the 17x7 to be safe.

[ARunto]

Will a 17x7.5" wheel with 45mm offset and 215/45/17 work on a MSP without rubbing?

[ARD MP5]

Yes, that Rota should work. Are you buying them used? It will work with the 40 series. Haven't tired the 45.

Rishie

[TurboBunny]

Originally posted by rowan
205/45/17 is the safest fit and will also give you a reasonable amount of sidewall.

Your question about your logic with an extra 5 mm of tire vs. 3 mm less of offset can be accounted for by considering the profile of a tire and how it curves over from the sidewall to the tread. Because most tires have at least a slightly rounded shoulder, it tucks up and in a bit and makes the left over 2 mm of spacing a non-issue in most cases.

How's that?

Rowan, thanks for the response, and I'm not trying to start a flame war, but what if these tires were "tucked" so that the fender would extend over half of the sidewall? The "shoulder" would be past the fender and into the wheel well....

I would think that the 2mm would make a difference.

Also to take this a little further, Rishie states that a 215/40 on a 17x7.5 +48 will not rub, but a 205/40 on a 17x7 +42 is barely making it....both of those rims would be the same distance from the fender, but the 215 is a wider and taller tire (granted it is also on a wider rim).

I feel like we are getting mixed information here... i know it's just the words "barely making it" that are upsetting....but Rishie, how true are those words?

Does barely making it mean that I won't have any problems or that I will probably rub if the car were to be drastically lowered with 215/40's on my 17x7 +45 rims?

I will be going with Continental Extreme Contact tires if that makes a difference...

Don't mean to rock the boat :)

-J.J.

edit: This is for a P5 by the way.

[ARD MP5]

The problem is that Rowan and I know this can't be an exact recipe due to minor differences in real world wheel and tire section widths.

Minor differences in tire stretch will also make a differenece. This recipe has come from actual experience in the ARD P5 wheel seatch for the past 3 years.

Barely making it means there might be subtle spacing differences between chasis'. I didn't and don't take your questions as a flame. I too was there once. Forunately I've been doing this for quite some time and had the resources to sell the wheels that didn't fit.

It could also vary by how much camber you run with the 7, +42. I just don't recommend it as an ideal fitment. Oddly the 215, 7", +45 will fit.

You would think a +40, 205/40/17 would fit cause it should have the same frontal spacin as a 215/40/17, but it doesn't. It's some weird shit. So you just gotta take the recipe for what it is cause it rides that fine line so well.

With regards to the lowering aspect, it is the same to me when the car is loaded with 5 passengers. The recipe works for lowered vehicles or stock ones.

I ran the recipe both ways. Sedans have more rooom too. They follow a more conventional fitment.

Hope that helps. I just do em and they work. I tried the logic thing and gave up.

[rowan]

I will be going with Continental Extreme Contact tires


Good tires. You will enjoy them!
If you're getting the 215/40/17 and want a 7.5" wide rim, play it safe and hold out for a +48 mm offset.

[TurboBunny]

Rowan, actually, these would go on a 17x7 +45....still think i'm safe?

[speedline]

Does anyone know if the stock 16x6 mazda6 rims with +50 offset will fit on my p5, that is lowered approx. 2".


Please help !

[rowan]

TurboBunny ... I haven't been visiting the site too often. Did the tires work out?

speedline: those specs are the exact same as the P5 stock wheels. so .....

[TurboBunny]

We ended up getting the 215/40's.....
The car hasn't been lowered yet so I can't say for sure if they will rub or not....

We should either have the TEIN SS's or JIC's within the next few weeks. So we'll let you know....will probably need to roll the fenders though.


Originally posted by rowan
TurboBunny ... I haven't been visiting the site too often. Did the tires work out?

speedline: those specs are the exact same as the P5 stock wheels. so .....

[rowan]

Hope it makes it without rolling ... :|

[dajiggalo]

I've been looking into a set of Ro_Ja Formula 5 wheels for my Mazdaspeed Protege in 17x7 with 215/45zr17 tires.... the correct bolt pattern is available (5x114.3 mm) but the offset is 42+ ...... I know the stock offset is 55+.... with a 42 offset, it would push the wheels 13 mm further from the hub (I think?). Has anybody here on the board have any experience with 17x7 wheel with a 42 offset?
Thanks in advance

hawk

[MACEY]

Rishie,

I read earlier a little about the centerline wheels and since I have a set sitting by here is my question. If they have a 42 mm offset and it is a 17x7 inch rim with 205/40 tires, will this fit my 2003 MP5? I know you said barely earlier but is there a tire combo that would be better? Because I like the polished look and weight I want to get these rims, but since I don't want to roll fenders will anything work with these rims?

Thanks for any help
Marcus

[PR5Matt]

What offset should I get to run a 215/45/17 on an MP5?

[Squrily_P]

Ok well I am new here if u cant tell I have a 2003 pro sedan es and I have 18/7.5 +45 with 235/40/18 from before i bought my car and I tried them before I found this site and the back strut suport sits on the tire when I put it on the ground. So my question is will going to a 215/35 give me enough room or do i need to sell my rims. The car is at stock height right now untill snow melts then i will put on coil overs

[TurboBunny]

That tire size is almost 20 mm wider and has a sidewall that is almost 20 mm taller.....

So take a look at what you've got and ask yourself, "if my tire was 20 mm shorter and was 10 mm further away from my strut support, would this rim/tire combo work?"

If you think it would, then 215/35's SHOULD fit in there.

I do not think the RIM width or offset is an issue here when it comes to rubbing the "strut" support...I'd be more worried about rubbing your inner fender....

A pretty good tire calculator can be found at:
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Good Luck!
J.J.

[PR5Matt]

I want to put a 215/40/17 or 215/45/17 tire on a 17x7" rim with 40mm offset. Will this be okay? It looks like it will work to me, although the taller 45s are a little iffy... Wish I had MSP struts...

[BlueWolfCry]

no it will not unless you roll the fenders

[pancake75]

Can someone please explain a bit what offset is? All this stuff just confuses me unless it's already posted somewhere else.

[BlueWolfCry]

got this from discounttire.com

The offset of a wheel is what locates the tire and wheel assembly in relation to the suspension. More specifically, it is the measured distance between the hub mounting surface and the center line of the rim.
A positive offset occurs when the hub mounting surface is on the street side (the side you see) of the center line of the rim. Most factory rims will have this type of offset.

[BlueWolfCry]

http://www.discounttire.com/images/wheelOffsetIllustration.gif

[PR5Matt]

I am more worried about rubbing the strut. I am looking at a 17x7 wheel with a +42 or +43 offset and a 215/40.

[rowan]

You won't be anywhere near the strut unless you start to go higher than +55 offset.

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

so with a 215/40/18 on an mp3 what offset do i need? this is confusing as hell.

[BlueWolfCry]

this is for 215/35/18

if your rim is 7.0" thick you need +45 and higher
if 7.5" you need +48 and higher

for a 215/40/18, you might what 1 or 2 mm more

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

so i need like a +50?:confused:

[BlueWolfCry]

im pretty sure 50 will work, but pm rishie to be sure

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlueWolfCry
im pretty sure 50 will work, but pm rishie to be sure [/QUOTE

rims with a +50 are prolly gonna be hard as hell to find]

[PR5Matt]

Alright, I am looking at buying a Rota Battle in 17x7.5 with a +48mm offset and using a 215/40/17 tire on a stock height MP5. Will it work?

[BlueWolfCry]

rims with a +50 are prolly gonna be hard as hell to find

yeh i know, if you go with 215/35/18, a 48 will work, which a bit more common, good luck

[BlueWolfCry]

Alright, I am looking at buying a Rota Battle in 17x7.5 with a +48mm offset and using a 215/40/17 tire on a stock height MP5. Will it work?
yes, that fits the recipe

[PR5Matt]

Actually, I was looking at the 5x100. The 5x114 is +45

[BlueWolfCry]

the p5 has a 5*114 bolt pattern, 5*100 rims will not go on

[PR5Matt]

Originally posted by BlueWolfCry
the p5 has a 5*114 bolt pattern, 5*100 rims will not go on

Yea I know. Darn it!!!! Thought I had found the right ones at last!

[RyanJayG]

is your car lowreed, or do you plan on lowering it? and if so, how much. +45 could be good enough for you on a P5 but it depends on the drop.

also, do you often put 4 or 5 adults in the car? weight is a major contributor to +45 offset wheels rubbing too

[PR5Matt]

I don't haul a lot, and I don't plan on lowering at all. If I do it will be only 1.5" max.

[slamdp5]

My 18s fit both 5X114.3 and 5X100 so just ask when you call.

[RyanJayG]

then a 215/40/17 tire on a 17 x 7.5 +45 offset should be fine then...

I have an MP3 with 215/35/18 +45 offset, and I am VERY low, but the sedan has a touch more clearance than the P5. besides if you don't lower at all, then even if you do rub it will be very little, and very rarely. only when you corner hard with weight in your car

[ARD MP5]

Here it is again:

Protege5:

17,7 with 215/40/17: +45mm or higher
17,7.5 same tire: +48 or higher

18,7.5 with 215/35 or 40/18: +48 or higher

Sedan: 5 lug can have 3mm less spacing

So 7.5" wide can run +45 offset, or go to +48 and run a 225/35/18 for example.

Sedan: 4 lug

You guys are the luckiest and should be able to run standard +40mm offsets. The difference comes from the varying depth of the rotor "hat" between the 4 lug and 5 lug.

The difference on the MP3 and Protege5 comes from the lesser clearance in the rear fender on the P5.

Peace, Rishie

[gjmoreo]

so will 17X7.5 5-114.3 38

or

17X7.5 5-114.3 42

fit an Mp3?

[StuttersC]

If I undertsand correctly, the +42 will, if you roll the fenders.

The +38, not a chance...

[gjmoreo]

thnaks .. are the stock RH's 17x7 or 17x7.5?

[Emode]

i think 7
pretty sure

[gjmoreo]

hmm ... i always thought it was 17.7 .... ru sure?

[Emode]

?

7 inches wide?
isnt that what im saying?

[gjmoreo]

oops .. imeant to say 17x7.5 ... (7.5 wide)

[Emode]

maybe it is,
it wouldnt be the first time i was wrong.

[PR5Matt]

I Pmed Rishie about what wheels he sells, and what he is selling the for ($), but I haven't gotten any response.

[BulletProofDan]

Can someone tell me if this is to extreme?

17x7.5 +55 offset or +43 offset. I assume from all the previous post the +43 is out of the question.

My other choice which I know will work is 17x7 +49 but wanted a 7.5" rim. Thanks In Advance.

[gjmoreo]

Originally posted by PR5Matt
I Pmed Rishie about what wheels he sells, and what he is selling the for ($), but I haven't gotten any response.

I PM'ed him weeks and weeks ago and still no response ... this is the 3rd time he has not gotten back to me ... must be too busy .. and I am looking to spend good money too.

[BlueWolfCry]

he is busy as hell, contact his partner, mp3skaternc

[StuttersC]

Originally posted by gjmoreo
oops .. imeant to say 17x7.5 ... (7.5 wide)


The stock MP3 wheels are 17x7 with a +55 offset...I was thinking to have a wider track, I might get 10mm wheel spacers and run a slightly wider tire on the stock rim.

That would be another option than trying to find 17x7.5, because those are hard to come by in the correct offset.

[irishthugs]

Anyone
Hey I have 18's with +45 offset and nitto 215/35/18's how much can i lower it and still have no rubbing

[rowan]

18 x ?? .. how wide are your rims?

[SOSPEED]

Originally posted by ARD MP5
Here it is again:

Protege5:

17,7 with 215/40/17: +45mm or higher
17,7.5 same tire: +48 or higher

18,7.5 with 215/35 or 40/18: +48 or higher

Sedan: 5 lug can have 3mm less spacing

So 7.5" wide can run +45 offset, or go to +48 and run a 225/35/18 for example.

Sedan: 4 lug

You guys are the luckiest and should be able to run standard +40mm offsets. The difference comes from the varying depth of the rotor "hat" between the 4 lug and 5 lug.

The difference on the MP3 and Protege5 comes from the lesser clearance in the rear fender on the P5.

Peace, Rishie



What about an MSP?? I plan on lowering my car with ion springs. They lower the car 1.7 in the front and 0.6 in the rear.

The rims i want to get are 17 X 7.0 with a +42 offset and running 215/45 tires. Do you think i will have any problems??

[BlueWolfCry]

sedans are all the same unless you're 4 lug, so msp/mp3/es is the same, you will rub with a 45 profile, 40 would be better, as the recipe suggests. and like it says, a 42 mm offset will work because sedan has 3 mm more spacing than p5

[BlueWolfCry]

ok i have a question now, 225/35/18 will work on sedans if its 48 or more offset, i have a four lug (even more space) so will 225/40/18 possibly work? thanks in advanced

[SOSPEED]

so what if i take out the plastic fender well cover?? Would it rub then??

[slamdp5]

SOSPEED, you should be quite fine. I am running 19X7, +45 and dropped 2" on a P5 and I have yet to scrub. I think I made it okay because the wheels I got are only 7" wide. I am running 215/35 though so I feel the road. I love it:D

[BlueWolfCry]

Originally posted by BlueWolfCry
ok i have a question now, 225/35/18 will work on sedans if its 48 or more offset, i have a four lug (even more space) so will 225/40/18 possibly work? thanks in advanced

[rowan]

225/40/18 is damned big ... like an inch bigger than stock. You might rub regardless of what offset wheel you're using. And it should go on an 8" wide wheel in the first place. I don't think you'll have much luck fitting those.

[P54DRIDE]

sorry, but what is the bolt pattern on the protege5???

[StuttersC]

Originally posted by P54DRIDE
sorry, but what is the bolt pattern on the protege5???


5x114.3 mm...

[P54DRIDE]

Thanks. I really appreciate it.

[dream merchant]

thought id ask...

i have a 02 Pro5 and was looking at a set of 17x7.5s but they only come in a +42mm offset.

my car is lowered with a set of eibachs (prokit).

will these be ok running something like a 215-45-17 or a 215-40-17 or is the offset just not enough? i do have access to a machine shop so that i can have them milled down by about 3mm but i want that to be my last resort... if i even decide to go that route...

[BlueWolfCry]

they will not fit, milling it down or rolling will do the job, i dont recommend though, its best playing it safe than sorry and deal with the problems

[StuttersC]

And the 215/40 is a better size, closer to stock than 215/45...

[Metal MP5]

I just brought back my P5 and exchanged it for an MSP and i wanted to know if i could keep my winter tires ?

they are 195/55/15 ... i don't know about the offset, but they regular protege tires so i'm assuming they would work. But the salesguy was not sure if the bolt pattern or offset was the same or not.

anybody ?

thanks

[SOSPEED]

Ok i got a new one. I want to go wider. How about a 225-45 17 X 7.0 w/50 offset with a 1.25'' drop.. Will it fit????

[hukster00]

will 15x6.5 38+ fit msp ?

[YelPro03]

OK, so I have a question about the the stock rims that come with my 2003 P5. I know they are 16 inch rims with a 5-bolt pattern (of course) but what are the other important characteristics like width, bolt spacing, offset... or even weight if anyone ever bothered to weigh them. Thanks.

[silverturbozoom]

i dont know if anyone have already asked this but whats the MAX tire width....im looking into getin 18s but the Volks im looking at start out at 7.5"....will it still fit?

[BlueWolfCry]

OK, so I have a question about the the stock rims that come with my 2003 P5. I know they are 16 inch rims with a 5-bolt pattern (of course) but what are the other important characteristics like width, bolt spacing, offset... or even weight if anyone ever bothered to weigh them. Thanks.
non chrome ones are 16 lbs

[BlueWolfCry]

i dont know if anyone have already asked this but whats the MAX tire width....im looking into getin 18s but the Volks im looking at start out at 7.5"....will it still fit?max tire width with a 18 is 215, 225 if you have a higher offset, but on hard turns you will rub with 225, 7.5 is fine with 215

[eepr5]

is a 47 offset close enough not to make big problems with 7.5 inch wheel on a P5? I can't find much regarding this, since it seems most wheels are coming in 42,45,or 48, and i remember previous posts talking about how 45 was just a little too close so move to a 48.

[BlueWolfCry]

what size rims are you talking about and what size tires would you like to run on?

[eepr5]

what size rims are you talking about and what size tires would you like to run on?
18x7.5 with 215/35/18 toyo fz4s

[YelPro03]

non chrome ones are 16 lbs So I gathered that the stock rims are 5-114.3 bolt pattern. Does anyone know what the offset is?

[whitemp5seattle]

Hey all,

ok I'm really not good with all the technical stuff. Can you help me out?

I have a friend who's gonna sell her 17" Enkei RF1's and she said she'd give 'em to me for $100 (rims only). Sounds like a great way to get rid of the stock rims and get bigger rims (current stock ones are 16" I think).

Here's the thing: I'm not sure if her 17" RF1's will fit my 2003.5 protege5. Does anybody else have those rims on their car? Or does anybody know if they will fit? I don't have the car lowered yet, but might in the near future...

Thanks!
Jeff

[clownphish]

Hey, I'm looking into some ADR Visions and the specs are as follows:

17x7 5x100/114.3 offset 48

Would I use 215/40/17's or 205's? Also, how well will this fit? On the recipe on the first page it says +45 and higher for 17x7, just making sure. Thanks for any input you guys can give me!

ADR Vision link to wheel (http://www.adrwheels.com/wheels/?sfID1=12&sfID2=30)

[BlueWolfCry]

Hey, I'm looking into some ADR Visions and the specs are as follows:

17x7 5x100/114.3 offset 48

Would I use 215/40/17's or 205's? Also, how well will this fit? On the recipe on the first page it says +45 and higher for 17x7, just making sure. Thanks for any input you guys can give me!

ADR Vision link to wheel (http://www.adrwheels.com/wheels/?sfID1=12&sfID2=30)both will fit nicely, so it's up to you, i'd go with the 215, wider and not that much more expensive

[BlueWolfCry]

Hey all,

ok I'm really not good with all the technical stuff. Can you help me out?

I have a friend who's gonna sell her 17" Enkei RF1's and she said she'd give 'em to me for $100 (rims only). Sounds like a great way to get rid of the stock rims and get bigger rims (current stock ones are 16" I think).

Here's the thing: I'm not sure if her 17" RF1's will fit my 2003.5 protege5. Does anybody else have those rims on their car? Or does anybody know if they will fit? I don't have the car lowered yet, but might in the near future...

Thanks!
Jeffi couldnt find any specs, if you could find them, i'd be happy to help

[BlueWolfCry]

5 lug sedans can fit 225/35/18 with a +48mm offset. so that would obviously work for a 4 lug correct? and if so, what if i did a 225/35/17 with a +48, would that work? thanks in advanced

[clownphish]

both will fit nicely, so it's up to you, i'd go with the 215, wider and not that much more expensive
Yay! I finally found rims for my car that will actually fit! Photochop time!

[Akisan2]

Yay! I finally found rims for my car that will actually fit! Photochop time!
ok so 48+ offset would fit nicely...but doesn't that make your wheels go quite inside? How does this offset affect your vehicle's performance and any worries on tire wears? Does anyone have this particular offset with either the 205/40's or 215/40's and had any problems?

[clownphish]

Hmmm... I don't know the answer to that question but I sure would like to know as well. From what I've been told that will work on the car pretty well but I don't have personal experience to draw from.

[eepr5]

well, the stock wheel offset is 50, but your adding to the width of the wheel by 1 or more inches, so with 48 the centerline of the wheel is closer to the center, but the outside edge of the wheel is farther outside that stock.

[2k3 PrO RiDa]

does anyone know if 18's with a +45 offset on 215/40's would fit on my dx without any rubbing?? I was thinking about dropping it maybe 1-1.5 inches all around.

[BlueWolfCry]

they will not rub if under 7.5 inches in width
does anyone know if 18's with a +45 offset on 215/40's would fit on my dx without any rubbing?? I was thinking about dropping it maybe 1-1.5 inches all around.

[2k3 PrO RiDa]

they're 7.5" wide

[MACEY]

Probably wrong place but this discussion eems to be visited by so many. Anyway I am looking for a lightweight 17" black rim that is 200 bones or less if possible with the correct offset. Any ideas are apreciated as this is harder than it should be to locate.

Marcus

[Iconoclast]

rishie-

hyper 5zr 3piece in the 20'' size

at planetperformance.com they have a break down.

im getting the sheetmetal work done soon
and adapters, since i cant bring the car in till i get the rimz, help me please

which is the proper=5x112,114.3, or 120

which offset= +12, +25, +31, +44, +57

i might go with the 8.5's if not the 8's.

thanx for your help

[BlueWolfCry]

Probably wrong place but this discussion eems to be visited by so many. Anyway I am looking for a lightweight 17" black rim that is 200 bones or less if possible with the correct offset. Any ideas are apreciated as this is harder than it should be to locate.

Marcus5Zigen FN01R-C 17" is 16 lbs and comes in black. prices vary but should not be over 200.

[BlueWolfCry]

5 x 114.3

+57 with a 20", you will have to adjust the fenders to prevent rubbing
an 8.5 will not work as well as an 8. either one will require massive fender adjustment and thin ass tires. i suggest using 20s only at shows.

rishie-

hyper 5zr 3piece in the 20'' size

at planetperformance.com they have a break down.

im getting the sheetmetal work done soon
and adapters, since i cant bring the car in till i get the rimz, help me please

which is the proper=5x112,114.3, or 120

which offset= +12, +25, +31, +44, +57

i might go with the 8.5's if not the 8's.

thanx for your help

[MACEY]

Thanks for the help and if anyone knows of any others I appreciate the info.

[MACEY]

I know Rishie is busy, but how do I contact him to make a buy if he indeed has the lowest price. i am ready to buy if that makes a difference. I am just trying to find the lowest price.

(group) Marcus

[rowan]

Telephone is probably the most sure way of contacting anyone at AutoRND at the moment.

[ARD MP5]

Many times I do not have the lowest price, but I've been willing to provide information to the community that is invaluable and from the graciousness of my heart. I would appreciate it if you would take into consideration the sanctity of mind we have to offer you should you need wheels that fit without problems.

thanks, Rishie

Pm or email:

sales@autornd.com

[low_psi]

so a +42 would push the wheels out towards the fenders more than a +50 right? i'm just trying to get a wider track then stock.

[StuttersC]

so a +42 would push the wheels out towards the fenders more than a +50 right? i'm just trying to get a wider track then stock.

Yes, they would...

[low_psi]

Yes, they would...
you rawk like no otha!

[1ofdfew323]

hey guys i need ur help on this....i plan on buying this rota gt3 ( gab replicas) 16x7 5x114.3 i dont know the offset but anyways i have tein lowering springs and i like how my mp5 is sitting on the stock wheels. here's the q?

will this rims fit on my p5 w/ no modification? i.ex. boring the center hole w/ dremel etc...

wut would be a good tires that would look low pro and at the same time wide when looking at the car from the rear, and not too much fender/wheel gap. well, atleast 1/2 inch gap. will the 215/45 fit rite?

oh, btw rishie can u give me a quote on a wheel package for that gt3 and the tires too...pm me w/ that tho. thx!

[BlueWolfCry]

if the offset/width/size/etc of the rim is the same as stock and the tires are the same size as stock, your car will sit the same. gt3 will fit as long as the offset is proper
hey guys i need ur help on this....i plan on buying this rota gt3 ( gab replicas) 16x7 5x114.3 i dont know the offset but anyways i have tein lowering springs and i like how my mp5 is sitting on the stock wheels. here's the q?

will this rims fit on my p5 w/ no modification? i.ex. boring the center hole w/ dremel etc...

wut would be a good tires that would look low pro and at the same time wide when looking at the car from the rear, and not too much fender/wheel gap. well, atleast 1/2 inch gap. will the 215/45 fit rite?

oh, btw rishie can u give me a quote on a wheel package for that gt3 and the tires too...pm me w/ that tho. thx!

[gentleminh]

want rims, but now sure of Size & fit

got a 2002.5

i want either 17s or 18s
but i'm gonna get the TEINs springs, which are about 1.8 inch drop in the front and 1.5 or so in the rear... now.. does anyone know about this? like what size tires do i get if i get 17 or 18" rims?? i can't do with rubbing, and i dont want my tires to look like this... / / \ \ =\ help..? i need #'s!!

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[BlueWolfCry]

1st post of this thread tells you your options
want rims, but now sure of Size & fit

got a 2002.5

i want either 17s or 18s
but i'm gonna get the TEINs springs, which are about 1.8 inch drop in the front and 1.5 or so in the rear... now.. does anyone know about this? like what size tires do i get if i get 17 or 18" rims?? i can't do with rubbing, and i dont want my tires to look like this... / / \ \ =\ help..? i need #'s!!

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[ARD MP5]

If running a 16x7.0 wide wheel please run a +43 and higher. This is relative to tire width as well.

Rishie

[99toppro4u]

ne one know if some 18x7.5 with a 40mm offset fit a 99 pro LX?

[Matthew]

dont bother without doing some modifications. you would need like +43mm offset just for 17x7.5 or so with average tires.

[Murda]

18x7.5 - 5x114.3
+45mm Offset
225/40R18

Would this work on a P5? Seems borderline or worse to me.

[rowan]

Skinny up them tires and you'll might just be in business...

[BlueWolfCry]

225s are too wide, the offset needs to be 48 or above to prevent rubbing
18x7.5 - 5x114.3
+45mm Offset
225/40R18

Would this work on a P5? Seems borderline or worse to me.

[bazooka joe]

is a 45 offset an abbrevation for 450? my wheel invoice says:

18x7.5 5-100/114 450

[bonesmp5]

i followed the guide --- :) got me some 17x7 @ +45 215/40/17

will know in a few days if i rub -- getting lowered :)

[rowan]

is a 45 offset an abbrevation for 450? my wheel invoice says:

No, 45 actually means 45. ( measured in millimeters )

[bazooka joe]

No, 45 actually means 45. ( measured in millimeters )
thanks!

[Padre]

Is there any way to make 17x7.0 / 40's fit the Pro5?

[BlueMP5Dave]

Not really

[BlueWolfCry]

5 mm spacers and possibly roll fenders, i sugest just selecting another set of rims, there are alot out there. not worth the trouble..
Is there any way to make 17x7.0 / 40's fit the Pro5?

[Giallou P5]

wassup people. intrested in buyin rims these are the bolt patterns

5Lug 17x7 5x100
5Lug 17x7 5x4.50

both have an offset of +42mm, the motegi cahrt said that they woudl fit, what do u think

[goku4658]

I bought new wheels (from Rishie) and want to run winter tires on the stockers. I know Blizzaks come in 17's, and I was wondering if they would fit? If they do, would they also fit on a MSP with lowering springs like Eibach Pros, Sportlines, Teins, Ion, or Goldlines? Thanks to anyone who can give me answers!!

[BlueWolfCry]

p5 does not have a 5x100 bolt pattern. its 5x114.3 i THINK. the 42 offset will not fit correctly and will rub.
wassup people. intrested in buyin rims these are the bolt patterns

5Lug 17x7 5x100
5Lug 17x7 5x4.50

both have an offset of +42mm, the motegi cahrt said that they woudl fit, what do u think

[BlueWolfCry]

they will fit as long as the new tire's size is the same or lower than the stock tires. a 17" tire will fit a 17" rim


I bought new wheels (from Rishie) and want to run winter tires on the stockers. I know Blizzaks come in 17's, and I was wondering if they would fit? If they do, would they also fit on a MSP with lowering springs like Eibach Pros, Sportlines, Teins, Ion, or Goldlines? Thanks to anyone who can give me answers!!

[JrTekSilverP5]

I MUST HAVE 19's!!! what is the PERFECT OFFSET and width should i get...
http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?wheelbrand=Motegi&wheelmodel=FF+7+%2D+Gloss+Black

[JrTekSilverP5]

better pic...
http://www.inetlocate.com/inetlocate_upload/927/2378.jpg

[JrTekSilverP5]

oh yeah... im also dropped on Eibach Pro-Kit Springs and I already know ima have to roll my fenders...

[JrTekSilverP5]

quick chop... i think it looks hot...

[BlueWolfCry]

+48mm or above and a 7 inch width. im unsure if 7.5 will work or not. but you will rub anyways with 7, not very much, but you will. slammedp5 has 19x7 rims, contact him for some info.

[JrTekSilverP5]

rishie told me they had...

19x7.5 +48 or +50
215/35/19

on there p5... No rubbin...

[triplexkustomz]

Ok I have hydraulics on my car and I was looking at buying a 17x7.5 with a 50 mm offset. I have 205/40's will it be much difference as apposed to my mp3 wheels??? Thanx

[lasermp5]

Hey. I wanna get some REV model II 17x7.0 42mm offset. Going to have some kind of drop in the future too... be it an eibach prokit, or teins. I'm pretty sure this isn't going to work, correct? If it will, I wanna order these wheels ASAP. http://store.yahoo.com/speedandstyle/revmodeli.html - 4th wheel down. I know the 18x7.5 work because ghost has them on his car... however I would like 17s for a better ride and no rubbing issues after the drop. Thanks.

[Sir Nuke]

Hey Laser, those wheels COULD work, the deciding factor is the size TIRES you put on them. IF You put a 205/40/17 on they...they will fit...BARELY....if you want to put a 215/40/17 on they....they will rub, you will need at least a +45 to go with 215's.

you can find this very information in the very first post of this thread....

[daonly1around]

Im planning on getting the Konig Next 18x7.5 and was wondering what tire size i could do with eibach springs installed

[BlueWolfCry]

for an LX a +40 mm offset will work

[rustychops41]

Oh great and powerful Maja Rishie, an autocross 15" wheel question: I solo II in my '02 DX (4 lug), lowered with MP3 (Racing Beat actually) springs, on 15x6 Miata alloys with a 205/50-15 Azenis. I want to go to 15x7 wheels, lightweight of course. Seems like most of them are +38 offset, take it or leave it. Will I rub my fenders? The car is often loaded down pretty good, but I do have street wheels/tires.

[BlueWolfCry]

most likely yes, you will rub. 40 mm is the maximum in 17x 7/7.5 for the 4 lug, but i'm not sure about 15. although smaller rim, it is still a 7 inch wide wheel and with the tire, the diameter of the whole wheel/tire is SUPPOSED to be close to stock diameter.
Oh great and powerful Maja Rishie, an autocross 15" wheel question: I solo II in my '02 DX (4 lug), lowered with MP3 (Racing Beat actually) springs, on 15x6 Miata alloys with a 205/50-15 Azenis. I want to go to 15x7 wheels, lightweight of course. Seems like most of them are +38 offset, take it or leave it. Will I rub my fenders? The car is often loaded down pretty good, but I do have street wheels/tires.

[ARD MP5]

The 4 luggers don't have the spacing issues the 5 lugs do. The 4 lug guys can follow conventional honda fitments. You lucky son of a guns. In other words, you have nothing to worry about. Esp with 15" as your tire width will most likely be a 205/50.

Laters, Rishie

[Midnight22]

will the centerline rpm 42 mm offset work for the msp? or do i have to special order the 50 mm offset?

[BlueWolfCry]

42 wont fit, but you dont need 50mm. depending on the width of the rims, 45mm-48mm can be ok.
will the centerline rpm 42 mm offset work for the msp? or do i have to special order the 50 mm offset?

[ARD MP5]

For sedans a +42 will work on 7" width. What diameter and width. Please keep in mind that offset questions mean nothing without knowing the width of the wheel.

Thanks, Rishie

[StuttersC]

I thought the Centerline RPMs only came in 17x7 and a +42 offset.

[Padre]

I want to get Konig Troubles 17X7 with 45 offset on a lowered p5 using eibach pros. Will I rub?

[MP503]

I just bought some BBS RX for a good price. Size is 17x7.5 with a +45 Offset.
My car is lowered with tein springs. What tire size do you reccoment.

[BlueWolfCry]

215/40/17

[BlueWolfCry]

no


I want to get Konig Troubles 17X7 with 45 offset on a lowered p5 using eibach pros. Will I rub?

[Lenny]

I have an 02 p5 w/ eibach prokit. Will a 17x7 with 225/45/17 work... or do I need to go w/ 215/45/17 what's the offset I need +45 or +48?????

Thanks
Matt

[Brian MP5T]

Subscribble! My Shizzle.

[MSP Chris]

How much for a set of 4 of these. 16 * 7 btw not 17's

http://www.enkei.com/HPSpecPAGES/rpf1Specs.html

What tire size would go along with it as well?

[low_psi]

If running a 16x7.0 wide wheel please run a +43 and higher. This is relative to tire width as well.

RishieSo if I run a +40 offest, what's the widest tire I can fit without rubbing on a sedan? 225/50/16's would have rubbing issues I'm sure. 215's are hard to come by in 16" diameter, so would that mean I'd be stuck running a 205wide tire?

[Rickman]

DAMNIT! I can't find any freakin wheels. All the ones I like have a stupid +40 offset.

[bonesmp5]

this was the same f**in problem i had ---- sux azz
then i found a cool set -- but holyf**in (wow) -- it was 3800 bucks -- i was like wtf -- anyways ill keep my generics for now :(

DAMNIT! I can't find any freakin wheels. All the ones I like have a stupid +40 offset.

[Cloudland]

If running a 16x7.0 wide wheel please run a +43 and higher. This is relative to tire width as well.
Rishie
Hi Rishie and all,

saw some volk se37 at a local place: 16*7, offset +42.
will they fit on my sp20 (protege 5) with 205/45/R16 Toyos without rubbing? thanks!

[Rickman]

Ok, I'm a newb about wheels, but if I really like a set of wheels with a +40 offset is it as simple as buying wheel spacers to make them fit ok?

Like these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7934700608&category=42614

And if it is that simple, what's the reccomended amount of offset to add to a +40?

[Cloudland]

Ok, I'm a newb about wheels, but if I really like a set of wheels with a +40 offset is it as simple as buying wheel spacers to make them fit ok?
afaik, wheel spacers will only make it worse.

try search "wheel offset spacer" etc, U'll find out more, like this one:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38412&highlight=wheel+offset+spacer

[BlueWolfCry]

wheel spacers will be ok, but alot of us don't like them because it shortens the bolts on the hub. you just need to add 5mm to each wheel well to compensate the 45mm you're supposed to get.
Ok, I'm a newb about wheels, but if I really like a set of wheels with a +40 offset is it as simple as buying wheel spacers to make them fit ok?

Like these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7934700608&category=42614

And if it is that simple, what's the reccomended amount of offset to add to a +40?

[2k3 PrO RiDa]

Does anyone know if 17" rims with a +40 offset on 205/40 tires would rub if i lowered the car with tein s.tech springs? Whats maybe the lowest i could drop the car?