My sentra is gone and a pretty STi replaced it.

[strongbear0]

Thanks to some asshole that doesn't know how to drive this is what my spec v looked like after it was rearended while my girlfriend was driving it. Ao long story short they totaled it and the next day I got my new STi.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc20b3127cce9d2fb74980ab00000016108Aat2zFi4bti

But also thanks to the same asshole I got the car of my dreams.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc20b3127cce9d28146da09300000016108Aat2zFi4bti
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc20b3127cce9d28146a21a400000016108Aat2zFi4bti

So now the motor build on the speed will not be happening but that's ok. I'll enjoy each car for what it is and maybe I can finish my motor build later.

Right now I can't wait till the 1000 mile break in period to be over on the STi so I can feel this baby move. It's just a tease now because everytime I start to boost it's time to let off or shift so I don't over rev it. But like they say, "Good things come to those who wait"

[Iggy]

If I were you, I would be sending that asshole a X-mas card and a thank you note.

[1sty]

Welcome to the club.


Whats the best way to tune a protege?
......get an STi :D

[Dexter]

Fuck yeah, thats awesome!

oh eat a dick craig :p

[low_psi]

Atleast something good came of it! Hope your gf is alright from the accident.

[1sty]

Fuck yeah, thats awesome!

oh eat a dick craig :p
Nope, I think I 'll go take a spin in my car tht runs mid 13's without me having to anything but sign for it
(hump)

[Dr.Sound]

lmao @ craig
dex is jelUs!

[Dexter]

boo! i run mid 13s...uh....all the time....yeah...stock.

[mspeed101]

Damn im glad you got the sti over the evo. The car looks sweet you gotta take me for a spin sometime.

[strongbear0]

If I were you, I would be sending that asshole a X-mas card and a thank you note.

I think I will do that. The only reason I could afford it is because I had no trade in this time and a big down. I am actually only paying 45 more a month for the STi.

[strongbear0]

Atleast something good came of it! Hope your gf is alright from the accident.

She is ok, except for a case of nasty wiplash. The guy was doing about 40mph and hit her hard enough to destroy the rear end and push her into another truck and destroy the front end. I am actually thinking about suing Nissan because the air bags did not deploy.

[strongbear0]

Damn im glad you got the sti over the evo. The car looks sweet you gotta take me for a spin sometime.

I will.

[mazdaowner123]

Man I'd be happy if I were you. If that CGM? Have fun!

~brian

[strongbear0]

Well this shit sucks. I got the call I thought I would. The dealership called back and said that the numbers would not work so I had to return the car. They did that next day BS where they call and say we can still do it but your payment will be higher. What BS I am so pissed, but you know I was all over that car on the way back to the dealer. So much for the break in period. I feel bad for the guy who buys it after me cause I was beating it all the way back to the dealer. Well I guess this means I will be buying a used evo or sti. We'll see.

[NRRfrogmanP5]

damn that sux

[GearSlammer]

im no lawyer, but i doubt you can sue for airbags not deploying UNLESS she was injured because they didnt go off. i.e. hitting her head on the steering wheel.
She is ok, except for a case of nasty wiplash. The guy was doing about 40mph and hit her hard enough to destroy the rear end and push her into another truck and destroy the front end. I am actually thinking about suing Nissan because the air bags did not deploy.

[redfyre]

Kinda makes me wish someone would total my P5...

[Iggy]

Well this shit sucks. I got the call I thought I would. The dealership called back and said that the numbers would not work so I had to return the car. They did that next day BS where they call and say we can still do it but your payment will be higher. What BS I am so pissed, but you know I was all over that car on the way back to the dealer. So much for the break in period. I feel bad for the guy who buys it after me cause I was beating it all the way back to the dealer. Well I guess this means I will be buying a used evo or sti. We'll see.

(omg) Thats has to be the worst case of blue ballin someone i have ever heard of

[vindication]

damn, I would track down the mailman with the x-mas cards if I were you now. lol
Damn that is like a kick in the balls x2.

[Newf]

damn that's nice. l love the color too.

congrats

[mazdaowner123]

^lol someone didn't read the whole thread.

[FSDET]

Well this shit sucks. I got the call I thought I would. The dealership called back and said that the numbers would not work so I had to return the car. They did that next day BS where they call and say we can still do it but your payment will be higher. What BS I am so pissed, but you know I was all over that car on the way back to the dealer. So much for the break in period. I feel bad for the guy who buys it after me cause I was beating it all the way back to the dealer. Well I guess this means I will be buying a used evo or sti. We'll see.oh that sucks man. so how was the sti when u drove it hard ? u shouldve raced ur msp, u have the perrin fmic and other mods too right ? btw is that se-r spicy orange ? good luck and IMO i think the sti is better then the evo (atleast the boxer engine sounds better:))

[1sty]

Make me an offer, I'm broke :D

[Newf]

^lol someone didn't read the whole thread.

ummmm, yeah, I think I missed something there.


Oh well, it was a nice car while he had it :)

[MSP #167]

oh that sucks man. so how was the sti when u drove it hard ? u shouldve raced ur msp, u have the perrin fmic and other mods too right ? btw is that se-r spicy orange ? good luck and IMO i think the sti is better then the evo (atleast the boxer engine sounds better:))

nah i think its yellow



Sorry to hear bro about the sti, maybe you can somehow work it out.

[strongbear0]

oh that sucks man. so how was the sti when u drove it hard ? u shouldve raced ur msp, u have the perrin fmic and other mods too right ? btw is that se-r spicy orange ? good luck and IMO i think the sti is better then the evo (atleast the boxer engine sounds better:))
No point in racing the speed and the STi. It would have been no challenge, the sti was way quicker. The se-r was aztec red. I went ahead with a used evo. It's in the garage now. 9,000 miles and in damn good condition.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc23b3127cce9d2bec24689e00000016108Aat2zFi4bti

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc23b3127cce9d2bec2e689400000016108Aat2zFi4bti

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc23b3127cce9d2bec2c689600000016108Aat2zFi4bti

I am up on the air on which is better. The STi was brand new so the tires were perfect and the steering was perfect. The evo has 9000 miles and is a little more broken. The tires are worn a little and the suspension feels a little rougher. But as of now i will reserve my opinion.

[FSDET]

very nice..... ur garage has seen 2 hot cars in 1 day :)

[Jhova1012]

Damn that was fast...

[strongbear0]

Damn that was fast...

Yup, I move quick.

[ChopstickHero]

swweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
i love the colour

[spacemonkey]

Saw the STi...nice! New car smell is awsome he just got out of the dealer. Form what I heard hes keeping the STi Stock and moding the MSP.

Besides you see way to many moded STi's a Modded MSP will turn more heads and be more unique.

[txrxs]

reading is hard???

[strongbear0]

So after driving both and already knowing that performance wise they are like twins in every aspect, I feel I have a better car in the EVO. The STi has a far better interior, the evo has superior handeling, the STi has a lot more power down low, The Evo kills when ig gets up in the rpm's, The STi has a lot of room for improvement when it comes to braking, The evo stops on a dime. The STi felt faster because of the low end power but once the evo hits boost you know you are moving. The evo will hit sixty with just one shift, but the STi requires a second to third shift to hit sixty the same reason the EVO mr is slower 0-60 than the EVO VIII. The STi is very expensive to get power out of. The EVO is a tried and true design that has a lot of aftermarket support and the 4g63 can handel 350awhp on the stock turbo and 400awhp on the internals. I don't know if the same can be said for the STi. Both are awesome cars and have advantages over the other, but for me I feel the EVO is a better choice.

[mazdaowner123]

^lol someone didn't read the whole thread.

[strongbear0]

Saw the STi...nice! New car smell is awsome he just got out of the dealer. Form what I heard hes keeping the STi Stock and moding the MSP.

Besides you see way to many moded STi's a Modded MSP will turn more heads and be more unique.

They pulled my loan on the STi and I had to return it, I beat the shit out of it on the way over to return it, then I went ahead and picked up a used blue EVO, look on page two for pics. As far as modding goes the evo has way too much potential to not mod. Until the warranty is up I will only do things that are simple to remove, tb exhaust, intake and maybe a couple of other little things, but after the warranty is up hello cams, cam gears, boost controller, exhaust manifold, intake manifold, ems and hardpipes. Hopefully that will get me around the 300awhp mark after all even if I get the mazdaspeed to 350whp it will still not grip and the best times are like high 12's. With a few simple bolt ons the EVO will run high 12's, and with 300awhp a lot quicker. We shall see how it works out.

[Kooldino]

That blue is nice man. Let's hope everything is cool with this one.

[strongbear0]

That blue is nice man. Let's hope everything is cool with this one.

There is no pulling this one. I financed this and was trying to lease the sti because it was so much more expensive. You have to have a much higher beacon score to get a lease instead of a loan. So I can go ahead and start doing my basic bolt on's till the warranty is up and then I can go crazy.

[FSDET]

why did u say the EVO is easier to tune ? i thought the sti was gonna be easier since it has a bigger displacement

[spacemonkey]

reading is hard???Thanks buddy you didnt have to be a dousche bag about it. I could do without the wise ass comment. Same goes to brianmcd.

Sorry, I didnt read the whole thread. I just wanted to comment on the guys new STi...didnt bother reading the thread.

Geeesh get the sand out of your cooch for god sake. And I wonder why I dont go on here and post anymore.(dunno) Honestly what is this? SRTforums? Whats with the Mazdaspeed Nazis...a Simple statment saying he got a evo should have done the job but no, we had to be wise asses. Just for you I wil analyse and read every single word in every single thread before posting, okay?


strongbearO just as good dont really see blue that much...I like it! See you around! I would definately love to see both cars at the next Mazda Meet.

BTW in your opinion do you think a SRT-4 can beat a 2004 EVO VIII from a roll? I have someone who would like to test that theory out. I know the 2005 EVO VIII come with ACD and AYC standard. Was wondering if it makes a huge difference when running in a straight line. If all goes well he'll test it out against a MR and 2004 EVO.

[JDM Sam]

An Evo modded rules.

[mspdfreak]

Welcome to the club.


Whats the best way to tune a protege?
......get an STi :DYeah, thanks man.

[strongbear0]

why did u say the EVO is easier to tune ? i thought the sti was gonna be easier since it has a bigger displacement

Because the 4g63 is a tried and true motor with a huge aftermarket community, the same can not be said for the STi. Not to mention with tb exhaust, intake, boost controller and ecu reflash the Evo will have 300awhp. That's 1500.00 and you get around 70awhp, not too bad.

[strongbear0]

An Evo modded rules.


Yes indeed it does.

[strongbear0]

Thanks buddy you didnt have to be a dousche bag about it. I could do without the wise ass comment. Same goes to brianmcd.

Sorry, I didnt read the whole thread. I just wanted to comment on the guys new STi...didnt bother reading the thread.

Geeesh get the sand out of your cooch for god sake. And I wonder why I dont go on here and post anymore.(dunno) Honestly what is this? SRTforums? Whats with the Mazdaspeed Nazis...a Simple statment saying he got a evo should have done the job but no, we had to be wise asses. Just for you I wil analyse and read every single word in every single thread before posting, okay?


strongbearO just as good dont really see blue that much...I like it! See you around! I would definately love to see both cars at the next Mazda Meet.

BTW in your opinion do you think a SRT-4 can beat a 2004 EVO VIII from a roll? I have someone who would like to test that theory out. I know the 2005 EVO VIII come with ACD and AYC standard. Was wondering if it makes a huge difference when running in a straight line. If all goes well he'll test it out against a MR and 2004 EVO.

The new mr is slower than the 03 Evo. The six speed gear box slowed it down. Do a search and look at 0-60 times and you will see the new one is slower than the 03 from 0-60 and then it gains around 100 just like the STi and the evo. Evo is faster 0-60 but the STi will trap higher in the 1/4 because of the gearing. I mean if you look at a side by side breakdown of the evo and sti from 0-120 it looks identical, but equal money put into mods will yeild much bigger gains on the evo. Here is a good look at the evo vs. srt-4 (http://www.car-videos.com/performance/view.asp?ID1=227&ID2=268) . Look at the 100ft all the way up to 1.5 mile times. The evo wins every one except for the 1.5 mile time, which it looses by .03 of a second, and the srt-4 traps higher in all of them after a quarter mile. The srt-4 very well may be able to beat and evo from a roll but the evo was designed for 0-60 times not rolling starts, not to mention the fact that when I hit a turn the srt-4 will be dust. So winning a race when it is conditional is not really winning I could say lets race 0-60 through the twisties and I can probably take most cars, but in a straight line those same cars will beat me, not to mention when I drop 3k into the evo the srt-4 will be toast. With the evo around 350awhp 0-60 times will drop down to the 4.2-4.0 range and 1/4 mile in mid to low 12's. That's right up there with the z06 and viper.

[goku4658]

I could say lets race 0-60 through the twisties and I can probably take most cars, but in a straight line those same cars will beat me.
Its obvious you own a MSP. :p

[mazdaowner123]

I know the 2005 EVO VIII come with ACD and AYC standard. Was wondering if it makes a huge difference when running in a straight line.
No USDM Evo's have AYC, 05's get ACD.

~brian

[strongbear0]

Its obvious you own a MSP. :p

And an Evo VIII too. Did you read the whole thread?

[Newf]

I am so jealous right now, I'm not even commenting in this thread no more :)

[nrcooled]

It's in the garage now. 9,000 miles and in damn good condition.


I am up on the air on which is better. The STi was brand new so the tires were perfect and the steering was perfect. The evo has 9000 miles and is a little more broken. The tires are worn a little and the suspension feels a little rougher. But as of now i will reserve my opinion.Just an FYI you only have about 2k more miles on the stock advans. they are super soft and wear out very fast. I just went with Dunlop FM901s and R-compounds for the track.

The suspension is more harsh in the Evo and has nothing to do with being "worn" The evo is a much less "refined" car then the STi but will reward you when pushing the car. I love my Evo and although I really like the STi I would not trade. Maybe I should get an STi too?

Welcome to the world of AWD!!!(cool)

Edit: Make sure you get a boost controler on that Evo. Evos have no topend stock because of the boost taper. You can get rid of this by removing the boost control selinoid and running a simple MBC set to 20psi (19psi tapering to 15psi is stock) As long as you get an ECU flash to ensure proper A/Fs you will be set to go kill most anything on the street or track. Just make sure that you get the flash and don't run anything over 24psi because the stock big 16G won't like you for very long.

With just a TB (stock cat), Intake, MBC, and Dyno Flash I am making 259hp 270lb/ft. On the same dyno stock Evos were making 215-220hp (very stingy for a Dynojet)

Have fun

[mazdaowner123]

Have you driven an STi, Bakari? I'm wondering what your take on the handling of each. Also, have you had anything break on your evo? I've heard the STi's are more bulletproof. I <3 both cars, but I think I'm saving up for an STi eventually.

[strongbear0]

Have you driven an STi, Bakari? I'm wondering what your take on the handling of each. Also, have you had anything break on your evo? I've heard the STi's are more bulletproof. I <3 both cars, but I think I'm saving up for an STi eventually.


I think not. I have not heard about a lot of problems with the evo but I have heard about tranny problems with the sti. I thik it is because the sti has low end torque and it hits harder down low and puts mor stress on the drivetrain. The sti felt so fast through the gears and down low but when I shifted it it hit real hard when the power kicked in. They are just totally different not to mention the sti was so much more than the evo. I would have spent 10k more on the sti. That's 10k I can put into the evo and I will kill sti like nothing.

[nrcooled]

Have you driven an STi, Bakari? I'm wondering what your take on the handling of each. Also, have you had anything break on your evo? I've heard the STi's are more bulletproof. I <3 both cars, but I think I'm saving up for an STi eventually.
Comparing Evo -> STi:

I have ridden in a few STis but have never asked to drive one. I feel with a cars like these it's not proper to take someone's for a "joy ride". To just take a STi for a stroll around the block is pointless, I would need to flog one to get a good idea of how the car handles. I have been in one STi where we were getting on it hard and the car handled very well. The feeling that I got reminded me of the 6.5 TME where it will do what you tell it, when you tell it, but the car won't "tell" you what it's doing. Kind of a vauge feeling.

My opinion on my Evo:

13k and no problems from my baby. I have had it modded since the break-in period ended and have loved every minute. The car has seen a few track weekends and auto-x and has been nothing but beauty. The opinion that I have gathered from my evo is that it is the most responsive and communicative car that I have ever driven. The car is pure with no electronic gadgetry to interfear with YOU driving. Just mechanical goodness in every turn and pure power when shooting off the apexes.


Reliability:

The majority of the problems with the Evo comes from drag racing. The t-case was not made to withstand 350+hp and 1.6sec 60' times. The xfer case was made to stand up to auto-xing and roadracing by the bucket full. Most of the t-cases die because of the open limited slip in the front. When launching the car hard you can get some wheel hop that will eventually kill the spider gears in the front slip. After the slip falls apart, the pieces will go through the t-case and kill that too. (about $2700 including labor or $1200 for t-case alone)

Also the clutch was designed to slip to avoid american idiots, that waste a car like the Evo drag racing, from killing the drivetrain. After a good number of hard launches your clutch will be toast and will begin slipping. My clutch is still beauty and I have had no problems with it. As long as you use the Evo for what it was designed to do you won't have any issues.

Brianmcd - You will enjoy whatever car you choose but I would suggest that you, being a auto-xer, look very hard at the Evo. Lt. Dan took my Evo out for an auto-x session and set fast time of the day with four (4) people in the car!!!!

[Black Majik MSP]

Well this shit sucks. I got the call I thought I would. The dealership called back and said that the numbers would not work so I had to return the car. They did that next day BS where they call and say we can still do it but your payment will be higher. What BS I am so pissed, but you know I was all over that car on the way back to the dealer. So much for the break in period. I feel bad for the guy who buys it after me cause I was beating it all the way back to the dealer. Well I guess this means I will be buying a used evo or sti. We'll see.
Which dealer did this to you? The same thing happened to my old boss when he bought a Black MSP (he had it for 5 days). He had to return it & got a Laser Blue P5 instead. I got the idea to get the MSP from seeing his car.

[strongbear0]

Which dealer did this to you? The same thing happened to my old boss when he bought a Black MSP (he had it for 5 days). He had to return it & got a Laser Blue P5 instead. I got the idea to get the MSP from seeing his car.

Bob dance subaru outside orlando. I actually got a tresspass order put against me cause I told the salesman I was gonna fuck him up. He called my house right before I had to take my girl to a doctors appointment and told me I had to ring the car back right then. I told him I don't jump when you say jump and he said he was gonna send a repo man. I said "you are a piece of shit and I will kick your fucking ass if you threaten me". I am not a small guy, 6'5" and 240llbs ask spacemonkey and mspeed101 they know me, needless to say when I arrived at the dealership after thouroughly beating the sti on the way there the cops were waiting for me. The guy hid in his office and cried to the cops like a little baby. When he brought back my downpayment he was close to me and I actually thought about slapping him, but the cop was there andI didn't feel like going to jail. Instead I went and saved 10k on a car that I like better and I got the oppertunity to drive both of them. And now I can say something that I didn't think I would be saying anytime soon, "that in one week I owned both an STi and an EVO."

[JasonMSP]

And now I can say something that I didn't think I would be saying anytime soon, "that in one week I owned both an STi and an EVO."
I don't think many people can say that. Oh well sucks about the STI, but I think the Evo is a better choice.

[strongbear0]

I don't think many people can say that. Oh well sucks about the STI, but I think the Evo is a better choice.

Thanks

[Sushi-Monster]

on a personal note, when comparing interiors from the evo to the msp which do you think is better??? Besides the seats that is... And compare it to the STi.... In my opionion, the STi interior makes out interiors look like 2nd rate...

[mazdaspeedpower]

with the STi beating the piss out, how much fun was launching the car:D. also, good choice with that colour on the used EVO, very nice indeed. I think it's prolly best they took the car back, since you got to a) beat the piss out of it, b)get a better car(not much better, but a tiny bit overall) c)threaten to 'fuck up' some pissant salesperson d) get a car that the MSP was styled to look like.....sweet man, sweet

[strongbear0]

on a personal note, when comparing interiors from the evo to the msp which do you think is better??? Besides the seats that is... And compare it to the STi.... In my opionion, the STi interior makes out interiors look like 2nd rate...

The msp doesn't have the nicest interior. The STi was nice on the inside but I like the way the evo feels better. It might not be as refined, but if I wanted refined I would buy a bmw or mercedes.

[strongbear0]

with the STi beating the piss out, how much fun was launching the car:D. also, good choice with that colour on the used EVO, very nice indeed. I think it's prolly best they took the car back, since you got to a) beat the piss out of it, b)get a better car(not much better, but a tiny bit overall) c)threaten to 'fuck up' some pissant salesperson d) get a car that the MSP was styled to look like.....sweet man, sweet

It was fun to launch and hit it through 4th.

[1sty]

why did u say the EVO is easier to tune ? i thought the sti was gonna be easier since it has a bigger displacement
There is almost no tried and true setup for the STi yet. Its a totaly new motor and is run by a computer only slightly less anal retantive then the mazda protege's.

Most intakes loose power from the car pulling timing. Other don't add anything. At best there is an unmeasurable horsepower gain. Only the Injen and K&N systems seem to be getting EM support but aren;t really showing gains.
Many free flowing exhuast cause major boost creep and possibly engine explosion.
Front mount intercoolers just aren't neccessary to make a difference until alot higher horsepower levels are obtained. Ther has been alot of street driving performace increases reported but nothing measured again.
Many of the EM's are having small set backs. The TurboXS system has a violent switch between the ECU and the piggy back. Vishnu has the same issue now and again. Blown coils are being commonly reported on standalone cars. Like always, many custom setups don't survive very long.

[Mallard]

Really? That's sounds odd to me. There's a shop outside of Columbus that is claiming no problems with their tuning of an STi. Here's the post they made on a local forum.


I thought I'd post a few numbers from one of our local customers. He has an 04 STi with boltons only and has been very pleased with the torque and power he is achieving at the wheels. The motor is tested extensively for signs of mechanical failure but we have found none yet. We've performed quite a few checks on plugs, compression tests, etc. and the car is running strong. It has had the mods for about 4~6 months now and still running great. He's had it to the track but is a self admitted poor drag racer. He's almost into the 11's now. http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/smile.gif One setback he had with this power was bending the rear endlinks from launching so hard.
Anyways, the mods are as follows. Tuning was all done in house on our Dynapack AWD dyno. These numbers are his best so far, but we are having him in on this weekend to dyno again (for free) because his boost was wavering badly. I believe he had a specific variable setup wrong on his boost controller. It is veryh likely he will achieve more torque; the whp may stay the same:

TXS UTEC with Remote Map Selector
TXS Full Turboback
GTS Exhaust Manifold and Uppipe with Jet Hot 2000
Walbro GSS342
Ultimate Racing Fuel Rails and 780 cc Injectors
TXS Front Mount
TXS Short Ram Intake
Quantum Racing Race TGV System
AVO 500 HP Turbo
1 Step Colder Plugs
Kartboy Shifter

The car right now has a completely stock longblock and clutch. He likes to slip the car a lot between gears (when not using the two step) and we can tell the clutch is about ready to go, but it is amazing that it has held up so far.
He is about ready to install a swirlpot, Aeromotive external pump, Aeromotive inline fuel filter, twin plate clutch and a few other things in anticipation of the built motor, ported heads and more boost. We've warned him about the strength limits of stock internals but he has opted to push it pretty far to find out for everyone what the car can handle with careful tuning and modifications. The car achieves peak torque at 4500 rpm and peak horsepower is at 6200 rpm. As I said, the numbers may raise this weekend when we take a look at his boost controller.
We'd been warned by a few shops that the valves may start lifting off the seats with much over 20 psi and cause misfiring, etc. We made this comment know to the customer but he felt he'd give it a go anyways. http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/smile.gif We did encounter misfiring a little bit farther up in boost (21 or so) and thought we'd hit the brick wall but with some fresh plugs (and replacing a coil) the power came back and pulled cleanly. He later raised the boost again. Note that he is currently at 23.5 psi on CAM2 110 octane leaded gasoline for the 440 TQ / 447 HP runs. Please note that he runs the car all the time; it isn't a "three pulls and it pops" motor or something that he doesn't do very often. More often than not, he runs CAM2 in the car for his daily driving. He also has a Shell 93 pump gas map at his fingertips with the Remote Map Selector, but the CAM2 is like crack. http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/smile.gif
On a side note, the Subaru's really gain time by using the two-step between shifts; especially at this level. I've had WRX's pick up 0.4+ seconds with a big turbo. He has seen similar results with the AVO500 on his car.
Anyways, I hope some info has been helpful. I'd be glad to answer questions. I thought mods might want this in Proven Power Bragging or something of that nature but I've shared the info for technical reasons as to what we've been able to achieve with the STi. We have another STi about ready to hit the streets with a fully built Axis Power Racing motor and clutch/flywheel on top of this (and some other stuff). He should be grabbing a Hydra when they release as well.
Watch our site for pics of this and other cars and their dyno sheets, etc.

Thanks for viewing,
Bryon
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[1sty]

Its been one of those 2 sided story deals from what I am finding. One is the story people are posting about, then the other is what people will actualy tell you face to face. Online I have yet to see someone mention some of the problems I have mentioned, in person its a different story. This happens in all car segments. People are either aligned or overly proud of what they have purchsed so they will not be honest about the issues they have had. I have experienced this several time in the mazda community aswell. Everyone praises a vendor online but go to a meet and its a TOTALY different story. You find out that the car ran like ass or not at all or was constantly reworked not to mention cost ran way over expectations and expectations where anything but met. Obviously, I am not aware of that car or the people involved directly so I can;t comment. However I have noticed a 3 month lag between similar large undertakings and there total sell off or destruction.

[Mallard]

However I have noticed a 3 month lag between similar large undertakings and there total sell off or destruction.
Haha, yeah that seems to happen around here.

I LOVE MY PROTEGE....someone buy it please, i'm parting it out.

didn't mean to threadjack, Enjoy the EVO. They are a blast to drive, but if you don't know how to drive fast properly (on a track or a spirited back raod adventure), be careful! That car can also get you in over your head quickly. I've seen it happen.

[redrims]

Well this shit sucks. I got the call I thought I would. The dealership called back and said that the numbers would not work so I had to return the car. They did that next day BS where they call and say we can still do it but your payment will be higher. What BS I am so pissed, but you know I was all over that car on the way back to the dealer. So much for the break in period. I feel bad for the guy who buys it after me cause I was beating it all the way back to the dealer. Well I guess this means I will be buying a used evo or sti. We'll see.Dodge did the same BS to me when I got my SRT4, even with my nice down payment. Oh well, I enjoyed it for the couple days I owned it (evil).

Congrats on the EVO and sweet color too (cool)

[strongbear0]

Dodge did the same BS to me when I got my SRT4, even with my nice down payment. Oh well, I enjoyed it for the couple days I owned it (evil).

Congrats on the EVO and sweet color too (cool)

Dealers love to do that BS then try and get you to pay more. I said fine I got to drive it and you can have it back now and I'll go buy an EVO, no big deal.

I am enjoying the EVO. I ordered my tb exhaust, hks cams, fidanza cam gears, walbro 255 fuel pump, arp head studs, gauges, boost controller, turbo timer, injen intake w/upper intercooler pipe. All that stuff and an ecu reflash should have me seeing somewhere around the 320whp mark. Then in a couple of months it's fmic w/lower ic pipe and maybe aem ems and that should put upwards of 350whp and closer to 400whp. Just the aem ems alone on these cars with a good tune will yeild around 50-75whp. It's amazing how this thing responds to bolt-ons.

[goku4658]

like whoa!

[redrims]

like whoa!My words exactly...!!!


Your making me want an EVO...please don't do that.

[nrcooled]

Just out of curiosity, what are you building the Evo for?

[mazpro]

nice list, how much did that list set you back? and are you going to do a dyno before and after everything, I would like to know the difference.

[murph1379]

The biggest reason I bought the MSP was how light on its' feet it feels, the responsiveness of the suspension. It felt light like my 2200lb civic did, but much stiffer, and much faster.

Riding with a friend in his STi in autox, and driving another friend's tuned 2.5RS in autox gave me a definite feeling of weight, like someone else said it feels much more disconnected. They move like hell, and the AWD is like the ultimate stupidity correction device, I like that. =] The kick in the pants when he got on the gas was the only time I've been glad I was wearing a helmet in autox!

If what people say about the EVO is true it seems like that'd be the car more of us MSP owners would prefer, with the lighter feel and more communicative handling. I definitely see more experienced autox drivers choosing the EVO over the STi, they say it's due to the more adjustable camber. I just hope for their sake that Mitsubishi stays in business!

[strongbear0]

Well everytihing went in today without a hitch. Except fof the fact that my exhaust didn't show up, I got the o2 housing and downpipe but the cat back and cat delet pipe didn't show up. I will be going to a dyno day tomorrow and will be getting a custom tune and tweek the cam gears a little to try and get the idle to be a little better. If I can work a deal with the guy I will throw it up on the dyno and see what it does, the tune alone is gonna cost me 350.00 and after all these mods and christmas I am a little strapped for cash. Hopefully I can work a deal so I can see the whp numbers on this beast. I'll update this post tomorrow with the results.

[strongbear0]

Just out of curiosity, what are you building the Evo for?


It's being built as a good reliable street driver. I am shooting for 350-400whp and a nice reliabe car.

[strongbear0]

nice list, how much did that list set you back? and are you going to do a dyno before and after everything, I would like to know the difference.
I can't do a before dyno run because all the parts are already in, but I can tell you that the average EVO put down around 230 to the wheels. I will try and get it on the dyno tomorrow after I get it tuned.

[StreetUnit]

Where did you get all those amazing parts??? I bet you got a great deal along with some fabulous customer service!!!

[FSDET]

im guessin **********

[strongbear0]

Where did you get all those amazing parts??? I bet you got a great deal along with some fabulous customer service!!!

I got all these parts from some homeless guy in downtown Orlando. J/K

Thanks Cullen