aem or injen hurry please

[Greenbread]

im gonna order it tommarow. amd or injen intake. they both seem great. aem says there the best and have some great technology. and injen says they have the fastest and great technology. which one would u recomend. i have a 2.3 Manuel

[Matthew]

whatever is cheaper, cause you wont notice a difference.

[Mr. Win]

^exactly

[NRRfrogmanP5]

injen just cause!

[pdhaudio83]

no difference. really.

[TuRbOtEcTicS]

Injen is the best....top end power!

[garretts77]

How is Manuel anyways? Haven't seen him around lately...

[TuRbOtEcTicS]

How is Manuel anyways? Haven't seen him around lately...
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! I think his with pedro and pablo...J/K

[nulldaddy]

Personally like the quality of injen. Have owned both.

[Greenbread]

Personally like the quality of injen. Have owned both.
but either way im getting a pretty much similiar product

[Da 6]

anyone know if CP-E is making an intake for you guy's? the 2.3 6 and 3.0 6 have one out just checking if anyone from beltsville was asked for prototyping one? they have a maf customizer and piping way bigger than both intakes you mentioned and also prevents the fuel trim cels by retuning the fuel map. only thing is that it runs in the $600. 2.3 6 manual dynoed 149whp with it.

[AzMz3]

anyone know if CP-E is making an intake for you guy's? the 2.3 6 and 3.0 6 have one out just checking if anyone from beltsville was asked for prototyping one? they have a maf customizer and piping way bigger than both intakes you mentioned and also prevents the fuel trim cels by retuning the fuel map. only thing is that it runs in the $600. 2.3 6 manual dynoed 149whp with it.


Thats is a big "NO" as they can't even get better gains than AEM or Injen with the Maf Customizer crap.
And they don't retune anything...more like trick!

[Da 6]

our prototype tester did adjust the map. the 2.3 showed lil gains vs V6 application cause the v6 ran pig rich and anything over like 4k would throw a cel with any intake. you also have a larger diamater pipe. I didn't see a kit or any mentioning of it on their site. Just asking if anyone was intrested to contact them at www.cp-e.com (http://www.cp-e.com) thats all :) I needed to "trick" the maf cause I got cels like crazy with both aem short ram and cai mod. Cels for intake slightly detuned the timing (not as much as no cat cels). after resetting the codes the car acceled way difrently.

[AzMz3]

our prototype tester did adjust the map. the 2.3 showed lil gains vs V6 application cause the v6 ran pig rich and anything over like 4k would throw a cel with any intake. you also have a larger diamater pipe. I didn't see a kit or any mentioning of it on their site. Just asking if anyone was intrested to contact them at www.cp-e.com (http://www.cp-e.com) thats all :) I needed to "trick" the maf cause I got cels like crazy with both aem short ram and cai mod. Cels for intake slightly detuned the timing (not as much as no cat cels). after resetting the codes the car acceled way difrently.


CP-E is just a hack way of tuning. And they were not the first to try something like this. But hey if you think it works, I'm sure it is people like you that keep the tornados in business.

[Da 6]

just removing the cel makes me happy... with cel I pulled 17's

[tgv121281]

I'm a rookie, but aem was the only one to show a dyno. Per the number it increases 6.5hp & 10.1lb ft tq

[Matthew]

yea, maybe on a good day.

[AzMz3]

yea, maybe on a good day.

Are you stating it won't make those gains? I have yet to dyno but I'd bet they were right on if not more.

[Matthew]

id bet my paycheck they arent. especially if they mean whp. unfortunately you just dont make that much power with just an intake.

i dunno, maybe they are being completely honest but most times companies inflate their numbers or tweak the shit just right doing other minor things to squeeze every hp to advertise.

[AzMz3]

id bet my paycheck they arent. especially if they mean whp. unfortunately you just dont make that much power with just an intake.

i dunno, maybe they are being completely honest but most times companies inflate their numbers or tweak the shit just right doing other minor things to squeeze every hp to advertise.

Well the Ford Focus with the similar 2.3L is making slighly better gains than that with just an intake. And the car AEM used is a member on another site. And there is nothing to tweak as of yet.

[Matthew]

hey, if you say so

[tgv121281]

Again, just a rookie-but I'm gessing they are ref. to HP not WHP...anyway...I really appreciate everyones opinion and suggests, but seems like it boils down to what YOU like. That said I'm goin going w/ AEM, and also Borla catback. Ordering from ptuning....couple of questions...how do we use our discount? does anyone know of a good shop to install the exhaust in Miami? And do you guys think that 12-15whp & 10-12lb ft tq are realistic numbers from both these mods together???

[Da 6]

not to kick anyone but aem also said that the 2.3 6 gained 12WHP from the short ram I have in the closet. The shor ram only gave those gains if you beat the car with cold engine. once the car warmed up you lost all gains along wit stock hp. I couldn't pull nto moving traffic for shit till I fabricated a piece to convert to cai. The comon trick being done is dynoing the cars on cold engines when sensors are on a initial loop. if your friend from other forum was there then maybe he can say yes the car was warm and this was the general range on multiple runs. I'd beleve your friend before aem ;) the gains can also be accounted for cause ov vtcs, vilm, vad and the restriction of stock airbox.

[AzMz3]

not to kick anyone but aem also said that the 2.3 6 gained 12WHP from the short ram I have in the closet. The shor ram only gave those gains if you beat the car with cold engine. once the car warmed up you lost all gains along wit stock hp. I couldn't pull nto moving traffic for shit till I fabricated a piece to convert to cai. The comon trick being done is dynoing the cars on cold engines when sensors are on a initial loop. if your friend from other forum was there then maybe he can say yes the car was warm and this was the general range on multiple runs. I'd beleve your friend before aem ;) the gains can also be accounted for cause ov vtcs, vilm, vad and the restriction of stock airbox.


Well thats what short rams do, especially on an automatic. Besides you should always warm a car before the dyno, but it should not get it to the point were it is really hot under there. Dynoing most cars cold like the Mazda3 will only show a 1 - 2hp difference than when it is warmed up, so i still don't see what you are trying to say! And I could not understand that last part that much...but if they gains is from that then it is from the CAI!

[Da 6]

I'm saying that the gain was magnified from ditching stock air box. Mazda made the airboxes for the 6 30% efficent under vvt. with restriction gone that charge of air when vtcs disengages and vilm takes place you can feel and hear the difrence. I gues I was getting a lil tired in my last post just wanted to clarify I wasn't posting under the influence ;)

[AzMz3]

I'm saying that the gain was magnified from ditching stock air box.
Well that gain is still credited to the CAI.

[Silver Bull3t]

Anybody know if AEM is working on a V2 version of their CAI for the 2.3l?

I checked their site and found no info.... Prolly send an email. (jerkit)

[Da 6]

V2 didn't work out so they ditched it...

[Silver Bull3t]

V2 didn't work out so they ditched it...


thanks 6..... :(

[tgv121281]

Ok guys, just got my AEM CAI today. Gonna try (key word) to install it tonight or tomm. Any advice before doing so, things to look out for, what NOT to do, what TO do, etc.....lemme know!

PS-I'm not really sure how to do this, so I cant promise-but if it all works out does anyone want to make a request for pics, details, check something out while I'm in there? Ask now or never!

[Da 6]

did it come with instructions?

[tgv121281]

yes it did, and they seem ok, but I just hear so many horror stories on installs that I wanted to see if there was anything I should do besides follow the instructions carefully.

[Da 6]

I did mine under streetlight but yeah just read over thew instructions...better yet take them with you when you install it...pill negative(Black) cable before you start and re connect it after you finnish.

[Wadevl]

If any one is curious reply
ill be honest with ya

OUT
Lucky

[Da 6]

lol....I mis my intake soo bad

[tgv121281]

Guys, I did it!!!!!! Its awesome! Sounds great, feels great! Thanks to everyone for their support! Here's some pics.

PS-Da6, the instructins were fine, and it was as simple as you made it sound-thanks!

[marineaulu]

Any pics available showing the air filter inside the wheel well?
I would like to know the height at which the air filter is located from the ground (AEM vs. Injen).
From what I've seen so far, the air filter on the Injen CAI goes upward in the wheel well, and AEM goes right down.
Anybody could confirm this and/or post pics?
Thanks!

[tgv121281]

I'll try and get a pic of the filter, but its a b-atch to get to it so give me some. As for the filter direction, its lateral. In other words it points left to right not up or down (the head of the filter points towards the outside of the car). Also, it sits roughly about 3-4 inches above the splash guard.

Hope this helps!

[untouchablemz3]

^^^All i have to say is that aem=bad news<---- i would get the injen but everyone is different!

[Da 6]

um.....depends if you have automatic. AEM=not autotranny friendly

[tgv121281]

Why is aem bad news?

[TuRbOtEcTicS]

Just bad news for the auto....

[Wadevl]

about 1.5 hour total install, not very dificult at all comparing sme of the CAI I put on before.

Can tell the improvement on Higher RPMS above 4.5 k
great soud
A nice intake pitch
and i get a much deeper exhaust tone in the high end winds +5k
sound like i upgraded the exhaust as well
so
very happy with all at this point

Wade

Just bad news for the auto....

[Da 6]

aem rubs against the return line bolt of the auto tranny. the intake will eventualy wear a hole in it's self if not taken care of. someon had a mod they did but haven't seen any picts or a how to for it...

[tgv121281]

I'm noticing some noise now. It happens only when accelerating from a complete stop and turning the wheel at the same time (IE: making a turn after waiting for a light, or pullin gout of a parking spot), anyone notice this? I checked everythin gout again, and nothing is touching...but again it only happens when the wheel is turned and accelerating from a stop. Sounds like a knocking noise of some sort, but it stops as soon as you hit like 5mph or tuen the wheel straight again. Not very loud, but annoying.

[Da 6]

check intake for signs of wear...On dodge neon the intake wore holes in it's self from rubbing the splash guard...Yes I said it...plastic splash guard wore hole in metal intake.

[tgv121281]

I checked and didnt see anything, but I'll take a closer look with some more light. But I've only had mine for a little while, is that wear still possible in that short of time?